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lusciouslips19 -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/22/2009 4:54:08 AM)

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This time it is your opinion that is not universal. I would have no few than ten very good female friends line up and sternly testify to the contrary. I do not wish all women to be like this. I don't even want some women to be like this. I only want 1-2 women to be like this. My female friends are all very smart, funny, charismatic and talented people. They're great to hang out with and I enjoy the shared conversations and experiences with them. It would suck if they were vapid bimbo fuckdolls. I fully support women doctors, lawyers politicians (go Sonia Sotomayor!) etc. I would raise my daughters to be strong intelligent independent women. I just want one or two women out there to be this particular kind of slave.


Ok, this make no sense. You want a bimbo fuckdoll but hanging out with one would totally suck as you like strong, intelligent  capable female friends. You would never want to raise a daughter to be that way? Are you going to have a regular wife and a slave on the side? Because a slave life partner whos a bimbo fuckdoll with no opinions is not going to be a good role model for her female child.

Also, you mentioned that you didnt think slaves should have opinions? Being a slave is not about not having an opinion. Its about complying regardless of what your opinion is.  All the slaves I know are very vocal about their thoughts and opinions and are expected to be forthright about it as their Masters think their opinion and intelligence is their biggest asset.




daintydimples -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/22/2009 5:15:58 AM)

Me thinks the OP has found himself backed into a corner by all the pesky fems with thoughts and opinions who are so not giving him a "hard" time.

(I crack myself up.)

Not only is he an insecure misoginist, he's not real clear on what a TPE is, either. He appears to have the power part down, he's totally forgotten the exchange part.








CarrieO -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/22/2009 5:55:58 AM)

BT..
As I said before, be careful what you wish for...you just might get it.  Then what?  You seem to have put a lot of thought into physically what your perfect doll would be and yet....there is more.  It's the 'more' part I believe you need to spend some time thinking about. 

I had a long reply written but after reading it I came to the conculsion you only hear what supports instead of what might help. 

I wish you luck, I believe you will need it.




LaTigresse -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/22/2009 7:33:23 AM)

This whole thread just gave me one massive eye roll.




sublace -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/22/2009 7:56:55 AM)

So - Bimtrain wants a very submissive exceptionally attractive girl who doesn't insist on forcing her personality/ego all over him.

Maybe he works hard all day and his brain feels kinda fried. He'd prefer to relax and not debate world politics each night at dinner.

He wants to mold someone. He wants to "make his own girl". my quotes here

Where did he say she had to be stupid?




Bimtrain -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/22/2009 9:02:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

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This time it is your opinion that is not universal. I would have no few than ten very good female friends line up and sternly testify to the contrary. I do not wish all women to be like this. I don't even want some women to be like this. I only want 1-2 women to be like this. My female friends are all very smart, funny, charismatic and talented people. They're great to hang out with and I enjoy the shared conversations and experiences with them. It would suck if they were vapid bimbo fuckdolls. I fully support women doctors, lawyers politicians (go Sonia Sotomayor!) etc. I would raise my daughters to be strong intelligent independent women. I just want one or two women out there to be this particular kind of slave.


Ok, this make no sense. You want a bimbo fuckdoll but hanging out with one would totally suck as you like strong, intelligent capable female friends. You would never want to raise a daughter to be that way? Are you going to have a regular wife and a slave on the side? Because a slave life partner whos a bimbo fuckdoll with no opinions is not going to be a good role model for her female child.


Yes. The fact that I have so many friends that can satisfy my desire to connect with people on an intellectual level is a big part of why I don't need that in my romantic relationship. As far as the children, that is a tough one. I know I'll raise my daughter(s) (If I even have any) to believe that they can be anything they choose to be. Their mom just happened to choose to want to be a bimbo fuckdoll.

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19
Also, you mentioned that you didnt think slaves should have opinions? Being a slave is not about not having an opinion. Its about complying regardless of what your opinion is. All the slaves I know are very vocal about their thoughts and opinions and are expected to be forthright about it as their Masters think their opinion and intelligence is their biggest asset.


Again, the girls I'm approaching don't want to have or share their opinions. I'm not approaching intelligent slaves who want to be forthright with their opinions and trying to convince them that they shouldn't be.

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ORIGINAL: daintydimples

Me thinks the OP has found himself backed into a corner by all the pesky fems with thoughts and opinions who are so not giving him a "hard" time.

(I crack myself up.)

Not only is he an insecure misoginist, he's not real clear on what a TPE is, either. He appears to have the power part down, he's totally forgotten the exchange part.


We've established that I'm far from a misogynist. I looked it up just in case there's maybe some part of one of the definitions that I'm not aware of that could apply to me but there isn't. I'm 100% non misogynist





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ORIGINAL: CarrieO

BT..
As I said before, be careful what you wish for...you just might get it. Then what? You seem to have put a lot of thought into physically what your perfect doll would be and yet....there is more. It's the 'more' part I believe you need to spend some time thinking about.

I had a long reply written but after reading it I came to the conculsion you only hear what supports instead of what might help.

I wish you luck, I believe you will need it.


There definitely is more and I've talked in a few different ages in this thread about how I do want more. I've been talking almost every night with two of my potentials. What the hell do you think we talk about? Personality plays a big role but I'm not gonna list a bunch of things I look for personality wise in my profile because it's very counterproductive. This has been discussed in this thread.

And I would always appreciate a long response as long as it is well thought out and comes from your mind and not your emotional core.

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ORIGINAL: sublace

So - Bimtrain wants a very submissive exceptionally attractive girl who doesn't insist on forcing her personality/ego all over him.

Maybe he works hard all day and his brain feels kinda fried. He'd prefer to relax and not debate world politics each night at dinner.

He wants to mold someone. He wants to "make his own girl". my quotes here

Where did he say she had to be stupid?


Well, the girls who are into this type of fetish while not stupid now want to have their intelligence reduced via hypnosis, drugs, whatever. I am a highly intelligent guy and as they say...opposites attract!




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/22/2009 9:50:04 AM)

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There definitely is more and I've talked in a few different ages in this thread about how I do want more. I've been talking almost every night with two of my potentials


Dont be suprised if when its time for the bimbo slave fucktoy to show herself and actually do it in real life, she goes poof. Many like the online fantasy and then panic when the time comes to put up. Also, dont be suprised when you wire money for them to show and they take the money and run. You are prime bait for the scammers pickins.




FawneTwo -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/22/2009 9:55:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FawneTwo
Perfection will remain unattainable, as it slips through fingers like sand. Who else is fighting windmills?

Bimtrain
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Again with the perfection. I want someone who strives for it. It's about the effort, not the result.



Bimtrain, you want somone who cares and that's touching. You communicate and get a point across well. I am not going to judge.

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One thing that maybe is not clear but it's just as important to me that my slave be just as fulfilled in their life. I always tell me slaves before the real TPE begins that they ust lay out all their desires, fears, expectations and such and I will meet them. But once it starts the choices are gone. I control everything. I've been thinking about a means of communication that allows the slave to communicate her concerns or any desired changes or whatever without breaking protocol. Perhaps a secret diary that I read. hmmm.


I say - wishing you happiness and all that





DemonKia -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/22/2009 10:04:36 AM)

FR, after, yes, reading thru the whole darn thing . . . . .

Numero uno thing that kept flashing thru the more subliminal parts of my mind?

http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/

& particularly that thing called 'too much plastic', which typically happens in women, oh, my age, or older. & guys too (can we say Mickey Rourke?) . . . . . . All in the increasingly desperate attempt to look 18, er, 28, er, 38, er . . . . . .

Um. Cool, if that's your conscious decision. My tastes are slightly different, tho' I do have quite a taste for young-fit-pretty, myself, but I like 'aging gracefully' as the end goal, mostly minus much of that Hollywood version of plastic perfection . . . . .

& it's not that I'm totally plastic surgery averse, I think a little smidge of it, good stuff, applied correctly, can significantly improve people's lives, but that's very different from the plastic surgery addicts viewable on the pages of the website, linked above . . . . . .

As for the other discussion going on. Yep, that's a scarce thing sought by the OP & it's gonna take more-than-average time to see results. Patience is called for . . . . .

& I suspect there may be a higher than usual rate of fantasists in the potential pool of candidates the OP musters up, mostly cuz I suspect that of all 'extreme' BDSM desires stated in profiles. & one of the big problems of the fantasist mindset is that it may take experience to jolt out of the fantasy, & that can be unpredictably any time into the relationship. 2 weeks, 3 months, a year in, & suddenly (or not so, depending on the accompanying strengths of denial, suppression, repression that the 'bimbo' is engaging in on her own behalf towards achieving her fantasy state) the reality is intolerably not meeting the fantasy expectations . . . . .

For me, personally, I have strong concerns about getting involved with persons (for LTR) who are under 30, or so. No offense, but in my experience people do a lot of growing & changing between 18 & 35, or 20 & 30, or similar bracket. & there's a 'settling down' thing that comes into play roughly post-30. (Can be late 20's . . . . )

So, for me, young plus extreme tends to signal strong probability of fantasist, fyi . . . . .

Ah. As for addressing the actual OP.

I'm way more picky than the OP, lol . . . . . As I like to say, on my good days I'm a one-in-a-million taste & on my bad days it's more like one-in-a-trillion . . . . .. But we have very different tastes, other than sharing some liking of the young-fun-&-full-of-cum thing . . . . . .

I think picky is good. I'm working on the more-picky end of the spectra, rather than the other way 'round . . .. . I get better results that way . .. . .




tammystarm -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/22/2009 10:33:51 AM)

how about rot in hell you rat bastid!  how does that one fly. the "t's" would be kinda hard to say, but other than that it kinda rolls of the tongue. im liking it.  [:D]




AquaticSub -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/22/2009 11:05:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Elipsis

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I'm rather curious about that one myself... though I would again suggest that the OP look to himself. I get plenty of CM mail and those that are too abrupt, abrasive, in-your-face or refer to me as "Dear AquaticSub", get responses that vary from the "Are you fucking crazy" to a simple no answer at all.


The other stuff makes sense but what's wrong with "Dear AquaticSub," that's totally your username.



My apologies, I should have more clear. Every time it's been used as a greeting, it's been a cut and paste form letter so when I see it, it's a matter of skim and ignore.




MissOllaria -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/23/2009 10:19:02 AM)

I am curious what the one thing  was that didn't match...  ?




Bimtrain -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/23/2009 7:16:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MissOllaria

I am curious what the one thing  was that didn't match...  ?


There have been a handful of instances like this. In this particular instance it was timeframe. She wanted to be moved in in the next week or two, I said I'll be ready in a few months. Now that in itself on the surface doesn't seem like such a trivial thing. But first you must consider the likelihood that a Dom is going to move someone in that he's only been talking to for a week or two. It's very unrealistic. Then when you consider she has been searching for around two years for her perfect Dom, what's waiting another few months?

Ok, so even if that's a disqualifier, I asked her (after she said have a nice life) if she still hadn't found anyone by November if she would then like to talk about any possibilities... No answer. It's not like I asked her for a commitment right then and there. Just to keep an open dialogue and if down the road the stars happen to align then great. If not, no big deal.

I've talked to girls who said they don't think they could move until mid to late 2010. I want this to happen much sooner but I understand there's a decent chance that I'll still be searching 6, 9 or 12 months from now so I don't close off those dialogues. It just doesn't make sense to burn bridges or close doors, ya know?




MissOllaria -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/24/2009 1:18:26 PM)

I would say on the grand scheme of things, that is odd.  Unless she really wasn't interested and it was a good "out" or she was faking and enjoyed the trip but never had any intention of following through.  Because of all of the fakes, I expect to meet someone in the first week or two - coffee, dinner, very public, no play, bring a guard dog, a friend, a few friends, but show up in person.  Moving in that fast it a bit much, IMHO.  Maybe her Lease was up?  I do wish you luck.




Falkenstein -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/24/2009 3:08:42 PM)

DesFip,

do not be hard with this guy, at least he is honest about is wants.

And he gets some answer for his profile. Isn't "fuckoff" a word of love after all?

I do not get any for my profile wich is a lot more mundane. If you bother to check it reads:

Looking for a dumb and speechless barbiedoll-shaped nymphomaniac (preferably owner of a liquor store) willing to reaccommodate an ex-convict (no violent crime ever proved) to the free life, if possible with her twin sister.

Nobody answers to that profile, which prove my point: you subbies are much to picky!

Kinky and deranged (where are my pills?) regards

Henry




porcelaine -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/24/2009 3:23:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

Also, dont be suprised when you wire money for them to show and they take the money and run. You are prime bait for the scammers pickins.


i never get a wire offer. i need to change my quote. [:D]

porcelaine




Elisabella -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/24/2009 7:23:07 PM)

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In short it goes like this:

1. Sub lists twenty things she desires for/from her Dom and life as a sub/slave.
2. Dom says 19 of those are what he's looking for as well.
3. Sub basically tells Dom to fuck off.


I'm over simplifying but still... I know if I expected every condition of every situation I go into to be met I'd be living a very miserable and unfulfilling life.


-FR-

Well you've got 19 of 20 and you're preaching compromise so all I can ask is...why is she the one who has to compromise?

If you really believed all relationships require compromise, you'd be willing to step up and do it. I'm guessing the "one thing" here is something big if it ruins a chance at a near perfect relationship - she wants to get married, you don't, she wants to be monogamous, you don't, etc. So instead of saying how horrible the women are for not giving up that one thing they want, why not give it to them?

Why is it okay to complain that women won't compromise on 5% when you obviously have no intention of doing so yourself?




PowerOverU -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/24/2009 9:47:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

quote:

There definitely is more and I've talked in a few different ages in this thread about how I do want more. I've been talking almost every night with two of my potentials


Dont be suprised if when its time for the bimbo slave fucktoy to show herself and actually do it in real life, she goes poof. Many like the online fantasy and then panic when the time comes to put up. Also, dont be suprised when you wire money for them to show and they take the money and run. You are prime bait for the scammers pickins.


I would never wire money. I'll by a plane ticket and put their name on it. Maybe I'll send a very small check to take care of some basic expenses (cab fare, etc) but I'm not stupid.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Elisabella

quote:

In short it goes like this:

1. Sub lists twenty things she desires for/from her Dom and life as a sub/slave.
2. Dom says 19 of those are what he's looking for as well.
3. Sub basically tells Dom to fuck off.


I'm over simplifying but still... I know if I expected every condition of every situation I go into to be met I'd be living a very miserable and unfulfilling life.


-FR-

Well you've got 19 of 20 and you're preaching compromise so all I can ask is...why is she the one who has to compromise?

If you really believed all relationships require compromise, you'd be willing to step up and do it. I'm guessing the "one thing" here is something big if it ruins a chance at a near perfect relationship - she wants to get married, you don't, she wants to be monogamous, you don't, etc. So instead of saying how horrible the women are for not giving up that one thing they want, why not give it to them?

Why is it okay to complain that women won't compromise on 5% when you obviously have no intention of doing so yourself?


You probably didn't ready everything I wrote throughout this thread. I understand, it's a lot.

I am willing to compromise on many, many things. Also, I never said anyone was horrible, only nonsensical.

And no, none of the things have been anywhere near as big as marriage. Actually, I want to fuck other women and want other men to fuck my slave but one of my "potentials" doesn't want anyone to fuck her but me and I said I'm willing to agree to that even though it kills a big fetish of mine. So a big compromise on my part.

I gave one example a few posts above this. Another example was one girl who thought she looked better as a brunette and I want a blonde. Granted, that's one of the few things I'm not willing to compromise on but it seems weird that a person will hand over total control over everything in their life but says "oh, but you can't change my hair color."




Sunnyfey -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/24/2009 9:49:15 PM)

You'll write a small check? Dude shes got your checking acct number and tracking number then. o.0




AquaticSub -> RE: Too Picky??? (9/24/2009 9:49:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PowerOverU

I gave one example a few posts above this. Another example was one girl who thought she looked better as a brunette and I want a blonde. Granted, that's one of the few things I'm not willing to compromise on but it seems weird that a person will hand over total control over everything in their life but says "oh, but you can't change my hair color."



Considering that women have chosen to die rather than get chemo and lose their hair, it doesn't seem that weird to me. There was a thread some time back about women and their hair. For whatever reason, a woman's hair has been made into a symbol of femaleness that is very hard for some to give up.




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