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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/24/2009 8:48:51 PM   
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This entire board could start working 24 hours around the clock to pay the TARP. 

We could live 1000 years and never paid it in full.

So "how" will we settle the debt?   Work really really hard?


Hunk, it was in the news about 2 weeks ago that TARP's going to break even or even post a bit of a profit.

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...not to the tax payer.    We are into this mess 23 trillion $ and counting.   For a brief time under Clinton the budget tended in a positive direction.  

I lost count of how many bail outs we have had.  I am not sure what the difference is between a bail out and a stimulus.   Right now the newspapers want a bail out.   

$  once had 2 lines in it-  which stood for units of silver.  It now has one line.   I own a dollar bill which says right on it- silver certificate.   Redeemable.   But - I doubt that is backed up.

The mainline news does not want people to panic... so they tell us everything is improving.   In fact we should see a bit of a bounce next year.   The stimulus kicks in just in time for 2010 midterm elections.    Imagine that.

I do think we should be sort of ok for 2 more years.

The entire system needs to be redone.

It is perplexing how all this money just vanished.  poof.  Someone has to have it somewhere.

Bob Chapman is probably the most accurate economist and analyst.   So of all those running around- he is the one I watch.  He publishes the International Forecaster.  Is former CIA counter intel.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/24/2009 9:14:55 PM   
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...not to the tax payer.    We are into this mess 23 trillion $ and counting.   For a brief time under Clinton the budget tended in a positive direction.  


Where does the $23 trillion come from?  The national debt is currently about $12 trillion.

In many respects, you seem married to an apocalyptic worldview.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/24/2009 9:22:07 PM   
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The claim was the vaccines administered at 12 months were the culprit, either MMR or one containing thimerosol or a combination, and it was conclusively disproven. Now people want to start blaming the ones given earlier?
the vaccine given at two months (DTP) is the one that contained thimerosol.

And there hasn't been thimerosol in DTP in the US since 2001 and in Europe it was removed even earlier. Yet Autism diagnosis, not spectrum disorders but autism, rates continue to climb. If Thimerosol was involved then we should be seeing a marked decrease in autism but we're not. Beyond the overwhelming scientific data proving thimerosol wasn't involved you now have 8 years of proof all around you.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/24/2009 9:39:21 PM   
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...not to the tax payer.    We are into this mess 23 trillion $ and counting.   For a brief time under Clinton the budget tended in a positive direction.  


Where does the $23 trillion come from?  The national debt is currently about $12 trillion.

In many respects, you seem married to an apocalyptic worldview.




U.S. taxpayers may be on the hook for as much as $23.7 trillion to bail out financial companies, according to Neil Barofsky, special inspector general for the Treasury’s Troubled Asset Relief Program./snip

http://theinternationalforecaster.com/International_Forecaster_Weekly/Scams_And_Bailouts_The_Cause_of_World_Depression

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/24/2009 9:55:28 PM   
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http://theinternationalforecaster.com/International_Forecaster_Weekly/Scams_And_Bailouts_The_Cause_of_World_Depression


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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/24/2009 10:09:23 PM   
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http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=4365


< Message edited by thornhappy -- 9/24/2009 10:11:01 PM >

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/24/2009 10:14:27 PM   
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yup, especially after reading some of the folks they link to.For instance:
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=4365



http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=4506

Gosh- why is this moved to "Random Stupidity"?      The seriousness of the matter is not random stupid.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/24/2009 10:23:31 PM   
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http://theinternationalforecaster.com/International_Forecaster_Weekly/Scams_And_Bailouts_The_Cause_of_World_Depression



Gosh,  I don't think you could have read the piece that fast.   But I suppose it IS possible so we will go with that.

What specifics does Chapman denote in the article that you take issue with?  

On what bases do you disagree?



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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/24/2009 10:25:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		The funny thing about most conspiracy theories is that the ones yelling conspiracy are often more guilty of NOT looking at all the facts before shouting out "CRIME"...

Let's see both sides and their comments upon the other's complaints and suspicions.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/25/2009 1:32:45 AM   
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Yet Autism diagnosis, not spectrum disorders but autism, rates continue to climb. If Thimerosol was involved then we should be seeing a marked decrease in autism but we're not.
i wish i had some sort of link as to the difference in diagnosis's between Autism then and Autism now. All i have is what i have read and seen.
As i stated before, the umbrella is widening when it comes to these disorders. What would have been considered a misbehaved, ill mannered brat even up to a few years ago is now correctly diagnosed as having Autism Spectrum Disorder.



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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/25/2009 6:43:41 AM   
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I am making a notation- that this thread was moved from the off topic to random stupidity.

There-in lies your sign.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/25/2009 9:45:50 AM   
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Gosh- why is this moved to "Random Stupidity"? The seriousness of the matter is not random stupid.

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Arpg wondered why they don't shut me up- or Alex up.

I am making a notation- that this thread was moved from the off topic to random stupidity.

There-in lies your sign.

That is why it was moved to Random Stupidity...the mods are protecting you from...from.....THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

be afraid...be veeeery afraid!!!!!


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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/25/2009 9:59:42 AM   
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Autism does not appear to be linked to vaccinations. This has been studied to death and there is no link at all. Some people perceived a linkage between vaccinations and the first appearance of autistic symptoms but improvements in uderstanding the early signs of autism have shown it is already happening by the time of the child's first birthday when the vaccines are administered.


Vaccines begin at 2 months of age with DPT, Hib, Polio and PCV.

The signs of autism can appear in a child of 12 months, but mostly it appears when the little one is between 3 and 4 yrs of age.


Where I live the first vaccines are given at the hospital before the newborn goes home.  I know this because it changed around Butterhead's vaccines scheduale because she was too small to receive the vaccines at the hospital. 

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/25/2009 10:33:00 AM   
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Gosh- why is this moved to "Random Stupidity"? The seriousness of the matter is not random stupid.

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Arpg wondered why they don't shut me up- or Alex up.

I am making a notation- that this thread was moved from the off topic to random stupidity.

There-in lies your sign.

That is why it was moved to Random Stupidity...the mods are protecting you from...from.....THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

be afraid...be veeeery afraid!!!!!



Not quite.

It was moved because less people will read it here.  People go to random stupidity to talk about their cat or play word games.

Speaking of off topic-  the spin off of politic is ...well- that could have been left in off topic.

Be afraid?     Actually- the thing I am afraid of is how many are in a hypno TV trance, that have no idea on how history repeats.

So yeah- the un-informed- are something to be afraid of.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/25/2009 11:38:49 AM   
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Gosh- why is this moved to "Random Stupidity"? The seriousness of the matter is not random stupid.

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Arpg wondered why they don't shut me up- or Alex up.

I am making a notation- that this thread was moved from the off topic to random stupidity.

There-in lies your sign.

That is why it was moved to Random Stupidity...the mods are protecting you from...from.....THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

be afraid...be veeeery afraid!!!!!



Not quite.

It was moved because less people will read it here.  People go to random stupidity to talk about their cat or play word games.


If the moderators did not want this post read, i would think it would have been pulled. Perhaps it was moved to Random Stupidity because it is?




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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/25/2009 12:26:16 PM   
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Gosh- why is this moved to "Random Stupidity"? The seriousness of the matter is not random stupid.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Arpg wondered why they don't shut me up- or Alex up.

I am making a notation- that this thread was moved from the off topic to random stupidity.

There-in lies your sign.

That is why it was moved to Random Stupidity...the mods are protecting you from...from.....THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

be afraid...be veeeery afraid!!!!!



Not quite.

It was moved because less people will read it here.  People go to random stupidity to talk about their cat or play word games.


If the moderators did not want this post read, i would think it would have been pulled. Perhaps it was moved to Random Stupidity because it is?





Dr Horowizc broke the anthrax that was sent in 2001.   As coming from our own government.

Yes- the mods could have pulled it. I am glad they did not.  Lets recall that this site was sold to some rather important guy- and since then- they had to get stricter.

When the government bails out the newspapers- then the newspapers will be government run.

But no- something this important is not random stupidity.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/25/2009 12:43:04 PM   
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Vaccinations do not cause autism: long since proved by huge science-based studies. Your child's odds of dying from infectious disease before 20 is one-in-ten; death by tetanus or polio is a hell of a thing. Only conspiracy theorists linger. The false studies were funded years ago by the conspiracy theorists, non-MD scientists looking for grant money, and people looking for a reason for something bad happening to their children.

Now onto swine flu. Unlike the poorly attenuated swine flu vaccine of the 70's, this vaccine doesn't cause swine flu. Go to the World Health Organisation websites, not 'Conspiracy-Elvis-Mercury-Michael Jackson- Magical Pixies-My Aunt Knew Someone Who Died From Handwashing-dot org.'



VACCINATION IS YOUR ONLY PROTECTION. 'Flu shots are dead vaccines: you can't get the 'flu from the flushot. Your chance of dying from the flu, or giving it to someone who can die, is a lot higher than your odds of being in a car crash.
PEOPLE SPREAD 'FLU BEFORE THEY HAVE SYMPTOMS.
GET BOTH YOUR 'FLU AND SWINE FLU SHOTS, or STAY IN YOUR BUNKER FROM NOW UNTIL THE RAPTURE.
It wouldn't be so bad if ignorance just killed the person suffering from it, but that conspiracy theorists can harm my family sticks in my craw.
IF YOU SPREAD IT TO ME OR MINE, then we'll have to wreak worse vengeance on you and yours, and it won't just be coughing on you.

Summary: Ask your MD, not some conspiracy theorist website.

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/25/2009 12:45:54 PM   
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As for me and mine, we will vaccinate!


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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/25/2009 12:53:25 PM   
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Pardon the caps, but I have to yell to be heard over the non-science-based bullshit. Of course, you have your right to your opinion, but not when you're spreading fear and obstructionist ignorance.

Vaccinations do not cause autism: long since proved by huge science-based studies. Your child's odds of dying from infectious disease before 20 is one-in-ten; death by tetanus or polio is a hell of a thing. Only conspiracy theorists linger. The false studies were funded years ago by the conspiracy theorists, non-MD scientists looking for grant money, and people looking for a reason for something bad happening to their children.
i am not certain who your post was addressed to, but one thing i want to point out is when something such as Autism effects your child, of course the parents look for a reason!

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RE: Swine flu affidavit filed by Dr Horowitz MUST re... - 9/25/2009 1:44:24 PM   
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<STOP SPREADING LIES> Pardon the caps, but I have to yell to be heard over the non-science-based bullshit. Of course, you have your right to your opinion, but not when you're spreading fear and obstructionist ignorance.

Vaccinations do not cause autism: long since proved by huge science-based studies. Your child's odds of dying from infectious disease before 20 is one-in-ten; death by tetanus or polio is a hell of a thing. Only conspiracy theorists linger. The false studies were funded years ago by the conspiracy theorists, non-MD scientists looking for grant money, and people looking for a reason for something bad happening to their children.

Now onto swine flu. Unlike the poorly attenuated swine flu vaccine of the 70's, this vaccine doesn't cause swine flu. Go to the World Health Organisation websites, not 'Conspiracy-Elvis-Mercury-Michael Jackson- Magical Pixies-My Aunt Knew Someone Who Died From Handwashing-dot org.'



VACCINATION IS YOUR ONLY PROTECTION. 'Flu shots are dead vaccines: you can't get the 'flu from the flushot. Your chance of dying from the flu, or giving it to someone who can die, is a lot higher than your odds of being in a car crash.
PEOPLE SPREAD 'FLU BEFORE THEY HAVE SYMPTOMS.
GET BOTH YOUR 'FLU AND SWINE FLU SHOTS, or STAY IN YOUR BUNKER FROM NOW UNTIL THE RAPTURE.
It wouldn't be so bad if ignorance just killed the person suffering from it, but that conspiracy theorists can harm my family sticks in my craw.
IF YOU SPREAD IT TO ME OR MINE, then we'll have to wreak worse vengeance on you and yours, and it won't just be coughing on you.

Summary: Ask your MD, not some conspiracy theorist website.



LOL.   I am not harming your family.   Yous are injected- you are protected.....

I am tired of junk science. 

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