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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 3:56:26 AM

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I've had the rather dubious pleasure of working at a university in a college that was 90% genius engineers. Many of them were top researchers in their field of expertise.

Although I would consider these people my intellectual superiors, as a general rule they shared a lack of basic common sense and people skills that I found astounding.

That is very true....hence the "how many ________ does it take to change a lightbulb" jokes. Whereas the jokes are cute, dealing with someone that has no common sense can be maddening.

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 3:57:11 AM

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 4:01:39 AM

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lots of people have superior abilities because they lack brains.

they do?

Sure. For example, they may have an aptitude to find poison ivy.

Now seriously, instead of poking unwarranted fun at you (incongruously, I do perceive you as a slave and not a sub as you identify in your profile): take for example one of them wide-hipped, brainless mothers. She has the superior ability to produce offspring faster than a colony of rabbits, and to raise them as well.

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Hey..anyone wanna see me put my foot behind my head and stick my big toe in my ear?

That is one superior ability that I lack. I would like to see that, yes please.

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 4:02:40 AM

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A close friend is a doctor, and a fantastic person...but as dumb as a box of rocks. His wife told me about the time he decided to change all the fluids in their car in preparation for a long trip.

They ended up getting getting a rental and paying a huge repair bill to a very amused mechanic.

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 4:10:20 AM

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lots of people have superior abilities because they lack brains.

they do?

Sure. For example, they may have an aptitude to find poison ivy.

Rule...i will get even with you just as soon as i am done scratching my butt

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Now seriously, instead of poking unwarranted fun at you (incongruously, I do perceive you as a slave and not a sub as you identify in your profile): take for example one of them wide-hipped, brainless mothers. She has the superior ability to produce offspring faster than a colony of rabbits, and to raise them as well.

whereas i agree that producing offspring takes no level of intelligence...raising healthy children takes a combination of many things: Intelligence, common sense, patience, a sense of humor, etc.

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 5:03:22 AM

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Mensa is slangfor stupid in Spanish.Did the OP know that? I know no mention of mensa in the post . Just another silly pondering .
edited cause my brain dumbs down a bit after fighting with the angel of death for 12.5 hours.

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 5:26:19 AM

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I have to say that knowing what I do of Jewel and Scooter, the OP surprises me.

In answer to the question, yes, I have to be with someone intelligent. Are there people smarter than me out there? Sure! And there are people with lower IQ's that have a radically different, yet complementary, skill set to mine.

I can't stand stupid people. I can't stand willfully ignorant people who refuse to engage with the world and only want to live in their own comfy boxes. When it comes to my closest personal relationships, I need to be able to have sensible, intellectual discussions. I do NOT need to agree with the other party, I just need to be able to be with someone who can express his or her views cogently. It is absolutely okay if they do not like Asian ghost movies. They can go watch "the game" while I watch a science program. Differing tastes are okay, as long as there is mutual understanding and acceptance, and of course, if there is SOME overlap. I want someone to have a passionate interest in something, even if I don't share that interest.

I guess I just don't want to be BORED.

Good luck, Jewel. I hope you come to see that your intelligence didn't help you in a few really big instances...

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 7:17:33 AM

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Hail thee OP!!!!

I'd answer your question but I'm just too damn stupid so I guess I'll ask a friend....

<<<<Uhhh, how do you use the phone?

**Eta I'm so stupid I had to edit my grammar***

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 8:58:41 AM

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Hubby and I are extremely intelligent, apparently moreso then most are comfortable with.

I have little patience for bullshit like this.

Intelligence is not the problem.

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 9:12:06 AM

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I am going to say that I agree with Lady Hib and MM...... I don't think intelligence or the lack there of, is even close to being the issue.

To put aside the negative reaction I had and just answer the premise of the OP........I do not worry about IQ, or making sure a potential likes everything I do. I care about the human being, the sincerity, honesty, desire to please and serve. Is there some sort of connection, chemistry? Can I enjoy this person's company? Are they special in my eyes and am I special in theirs? These are things I consider. (oh yeah, and allergies..........with furry babies around, I don't want to kill anyone off)

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 9:31:49 AM

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The degree of intelligence of someone isn't as big a deterrent to me as the level of willful ignorance. Intentional anti-intellectualism and the notion that anyone can have an "opinion" (and that since opinions don't require any actual studiousness as to credibility, they can get away with being just as "right" as someone genuinely learned in a topic) is much different than whether they know of and can discuss Zeno's paradox, punctuated equilibrium, or Pascal's wager.

NZ, can I give -you- points??? This, I think, is also the crux for me. I've always attributed it to intellectual compatibility/philosophical compatibility, etc., but I think that, more than anything, my issue is that I can't see myself in a relationship with someone who isn't willing to at least -entertain- the possibility of a larger, more fascinating, more complex world and different ideas than they have ever known -- and I have to admit an intense and abiding dislike for those who choose to remain ignorant and entrenched in the face of reasoned discourse and evidence of the need for changes or who encourage ignorance and intentional stupidity in others to further their own agendas.

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 9:34:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel
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Besides the spelling mistake..does this sentence not bother anybody? Either you are a friend or you aint, you don't just "call" somebody a friend.
ANYWAY
There's book smart and there's life smart. I've found out that I don't befriend book-smart friends (okayokay..I have one booksmart..ok 1 1/2) their minds work so differently that most of the time I feel completely out of it when I'm with them, they're okay in small dozes!
However my dumbass friends, who I consider quite normal people, are just as intelligent as my book smart friends.
I pick lifesmart over booksmart any day...and my experience is that I can't live with a book smart partner.

..but then I suppose I'm just a dumbass and don't have a say

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 2:55:38 PM

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lol & FR, after read thru

Seriously, this is a fucking hysterically funny thread . . .. . . & wow, it wedged loose a torrent of stuff from me, lol . . . . . . .

A more general thought triggered by this thread is the idea that there are many kinds of 'smarts': social, emotional, physical, creative, mystical, political, money, book smarts (which breaks into various categories -- literature, math, etc -- & is the kind I tend to have some mastery over), & so on & so forth . . . & while there can be some correlation between them, it's generally pretty rough correlation & not necessarily to be found from one individual set of randomness to the next . . . . . .

I know from hard personal experience that while I can be brilliant in that book smart way, I can be remarkably retarded when it comes to the social & emotional realms . . . . .

I'm gonna climb out of one closet, here, briefly, & admit that I'm really smart, mostly (as stated above) of the 'book' variety. (I try to cultivate some kinda humility so I'm rarely willing to directly cop to that, especially in public, but it seems relevant to the topic at hand . . . . . ) &, oh horror-of-horrors, I'm an 'intellectual' . . . . . & a science geek . . . . .. . & a bit of a trivia buff . . . . . . & the finest compliment ever handed to me was that I could 'talk to nearly anyone about nearly anything' . . .. . .

& in my experience, I'm in a teeny-tiny percentile all by myself . . . . . There are people who's focused, in-depth knowledge is greater than mine, but when it comes to breadth I'm in a class all my own . . . . . (& if you think I'm 'bragging' you've no clue how lonely it can be to be in a league all one's own . . . . . )

Given that, I don't give much of a fudge for whether those around me meet up to some yardstick of expectations about their intellects . . . . . There are much more important characteristics than sheer intelligence -- loyalty, kindness, compassion, reliability, desire, kinkiness, libido, honesty, & handfuls of other personality factors weigh so much more heavily .. . . . . . For me, it's more a matter of there needs to be some base level of smarts to succeed in interacting with me, a you-must-be-this-smart-to-ride rule, but anything beyond that modicum of brains is gravy, for me . . . . . . .

lol

In my experience, people who are 'as smart as me' are like me in other ways, too -- arrogant-unto-pretentiousness, condescending, annoying know-it-alls, snobby, etc, etc, etc -- & I'm plenty of all that, so why seek out more of the same . . . . . I prefer to seek out the company of those who 'balance' me, who are maybe humble to-a-fault . . . . .

& I especially prize some naivete, some 'child mind' in myself & others. Knowing can get in the way of learning, & I make some attempt to cultivate my 'empty teacup nature' . . . . . .

Another thought is that we Americans (y'all other planetary nationals can join in at will, I just know best what I live in) have a very uneasy relationship with 'meritocracy', that those who are more skilled, talented, et al, deserve bigger rewards, preferential access, & such like due to their greater demonstrated merit. It clashes with what I suspect are more deeply held values around egalitarianism . . . . . .

Oh. & last, but not least, big fuckin' raspberry over the stupidity of evaluating personalities via grammar & spelling . . . . . Yeah, there may be some correlation to other stuff, & it may be primally important to others, but not to me . . .. . & huge LOLOLOLOL over how, time & again, the 'linguistic Nazi-types' mis-spell & otherwise blow their grammatical superiority all over the place in their posts slamming the naughty typo-ists & brain-oh-ists . . . .

Edit: [removal of errant comma]

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 3:14:48 PM

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Hubby and I are extremely intelligent, apparently moreso then most are comfortable with.

I have little patience for bullshit like this.

Intelligence is not the problem.

Now see, this, to me, is true brilliance......the ability to say so much with so few words, lol.

What I've found is that, 3-digit IQ's and lots of capital letters after your name does not mean you are "smart". Where I work, in my department, the ones who have caused the biggest problems and done the smallest amount and most inferior quality of work are the ones who came in with multiple master's degrees. And, just because you are verbose or loud does not mean you are right.

I work in a high-tech, scientific profession, and after a long day of mental gymnastics coupled with dealing with corporate crap and Six Sigma bullshit, it's just nice to come home, sit down with a beer and watch What Not To Wear or Food Network Challenge.

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 3:19:53 PM

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Quite.

You have never been in the closet as far as I am concerned, DemonKia. From the very first I have seen your light.

And yes, I know the utter loneliness that you speak off. It hurts. It is endless.

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/28/2009 5:14:25 PM

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Good post, dainty.

Thank you.

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/30/2009 7:45:34 AM

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Put more simply... IQ is pretty shallow.

Shallow??? or is it just one peak of many in a mountain range?

I believe my response already implied my answer to the OP....

But I will add this comment....

It is unfortunate that one's unhappiness and pain is projected into some scape goat so that one can move forward from such unhappiness and pain.... unfortunate but all to often the reality.

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/30/2009 7:52:55 AM

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Thog like bunnies.

Thog may no understan' bunnies, but bunnies still soft.

and fwuffy.

Thog say here, OP, pet da bunny.

You feel better. Thog promise.

even tho Thog dumb like bag of rocks.

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/30/2009 10:55:43 AM

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& *smirk*

There is something to be said for likin' 'em big & stupid, it's true . . . . . .

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Thog like bunnies.

Thog may no understan' bunnies, but bunnies still soft.

and fwuffy.

Thog say here, OP, pet da bunny.

You feel better. Thog promise.

even tho Thog dumb like bag of rocks.

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RE: Too smart or not smart enough? - 9/30/2009 11:10:02 AM

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To the OP, if you're asking if I find someone that discusses quantum physics or the rise and fall of early civilizations compared to someone who is witty and entertaining in a "common" way, my choice is for common, for a interpersonal relationship.

Most of the people of a superior IQ (notice I did not say intelligence) I find to be boorish. When I'm socializing, I prefer to laugh at jokes that I understand, and not be the subject of "Thee of high and mightiness'" pranks.

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