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Lucylastic -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 10:36:59 AM)

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Sanity -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 10:39:54 AM)


Drudge: "The Ego Has Landed"

http://www.drudgereport.com/




SpinnerofTales -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 10:42:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

[sm=cheering.gif]
Congratulations to RIO! Home of the 2016 Olympics 'Carnival' & the thong bikini!
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hmmm..with Rio being the home of the 2016 Olympics, perhaps my dream of pole dancing replacing synchronized swimming as an Olympic sport can finally be realized.




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 10:46:48 AM)

Good news for European TV timings Tokyo would have been a nightmare IMOSHO.[8|]

Means It won't be on as much whilst I'm at work (Madrid/London) or early in the morning (Tokyo).

Chicago would have better suited my time, oh well.

I don't really care beyond that.




DomKen -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 10:55:37 AM)

I'm puzzled by something. I've just looked around the web at the usual conservative suspects, drudge, free republic, fox nation etc. and they are celebrating that Chicago didn't get the Olympics. Which strikes me as odd.

An Olympics will certainly result in lots of construction projects which would serve to stimulate the economy right now when it needs it. It would guarantee an influx of foreign tourists, and therefore foreign money, in 2016 which is good for the economy then.

So why are conservatives celebrating something that is bad for the US economy in the short and the long term?




Lucylastic -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 10:58:25 AM)

Because they can blame Obama, saying the world hates america and shows how much by cutting them out of consideration.
Simple its all about Obama, YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN, its all his damn fault dontcha know
Lucy





thishereboi -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 11:03:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

I'm puzzled by something. I've just looked around the web at the usual conservative suspects, drudge, free republic, fox nation etc. and they are celebrating that Chicago didn't get the Olympics. Which strikes me as odd.

An Olympics will certainly result in lots of construction projects which would serve to stimulate the economy right now when it needs it. It would guarantee an influx of foreign tourists, and therefore foreign money, in 2016 which is good for the economy then.

So why are conservatives celebrating something that is bad for the US economy in the short and the long term?


Because conservatives are evil hateful things and they knew it would piss you off.

Now how about some links to all those celebrations, so I can go tell them what dogs they are....




pahunkboy -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 11:05:23 AM)

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/obama-valerie-jarrett-chicago-olympics-corrruption-narcissism-obama-legacy-taxpayers-will-pay-michelle-malkin-chicago-pay-to-play-politics-jarrett-real-estate-connections-michelle-obama-hos/

LOL  pay for play...




SpinnerofTales -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 11:05:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Because they can blame Obama, saying the world hates america and shows how much by cutting them out of consideration.
Simple its all about Obama, YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN, its all his damn fault dontcha know
Lucy




Let's face it, Lucy....if Obama came up with a plan to get every man in America a blowjob from Angelina Jolie, not only would republicans fight against it, they'd claim it was a scheme to give them toothscratches which would become infected, necessitating amputation and therefore ensureing concervatives died out so the Obama administration could become permanant.

We've long ago reached the point of silly on this matter.




mnottertail -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 11:07:10 AM)

and certain conservative democrats would not desire a dick licking from Angelina Jolie, in any case, so you got that to deal with too.

Ron




Sanity -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 11:07:43 AM)


Face it, Chicago never had a chance. This is about Obama's ego, its about political favoritism and cronyism, and its about Chicago-style politics falling flat on its face.

The Obamas and their select friends were set to make huge profits off this scheme if it succeeded while many Chicagoans didn't want it at all.

That's a part of what you're seeing, or at least my interpretation of it.






Sanity -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 11:13:53 AM)


What's silly are your strawmen. [:D]


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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Because they can blame Obama, saying the world hates america and shows how much by cutting them out of consideration.
Simple its all about Obama, YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN, its all his damn fault dontcha know
Lucy




Let's face it, Lucy....if Obama came up with a plan to get every man in America a blowjob from Angelina Jolie, not only would republicans fight against it, they'd claim it was a scheme to give them toothscratches which would become infected, necessitating amputation and therefore ensureing concervatives died out so the Obama administration could become permanant.

We've long ago reached the point of silly on this matter.




pahunkboy -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 11:14:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Because they can blame Obama, saying the world hates america and shows how much by cutting them out of consideration.
Simple its all about Obama, YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN, its all his damn fault dontcha know
Lucy




No.  This one fells on the sins of madam of the evening Oprah!

She should have reigned in her Nero of the Empire  as his shallow words speak more for what is bad about EMPIRE.

Congrats to RIO!

You did a nice job!

Chicago might have had a change- but- RIO captures the spirit - where as Chicagos tone is sorta like- ya better pay us.  (or else! )






pahunkboy -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 11:26:36 AM)

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/theskyline/2009/10/chicagos-stunning-olympic-defeat-the-test-is-whether-the-citys-ideas-for-2016-will-live-on-.html

Check out this pic.  LOL.   WHATTTTTTTTTT?    NO.    hmm.     It is not the end of the world....  




pahunkboy -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 11:31:37 AM)

I am in RARE FORM !








Hi-  we are from Chicago America.  We demand you to let us throw you a party like you know we can!



































































(hint  there is a jab in this one- well 2 of them...lol)



















http://www.diannesdishes.com/2007/07/yellow-cake-with-chocolate-fro.html



(hint-  Iraq, Iran, and the prez)




housesub4you -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 11:33:48 AM)

See Like I said earlier in this thread, he was dammed because he did and he would have been dammed if he did not.

I do not think this had anything to do with his ego, of course I'm sure many will blame him.  I think Chicago never really had a chance, I mean look at the the corruption in Salt lake city, the bombing in Atlanta and the fact that South America has never held an event like this before.  If you listened to or read news reports from outside the states, almost everyone thought Rio woukd get it

But, enjoy your victory as the USA loses a chance to showcase some good things about our country instead of the ablilty of our troops to kill people.




SpinnerofTales -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 11:38:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


What's silly are your strawmen.


Oh, I'm sorry, Sanity...I didn't mean for that to be taken as a literal comment. Should I use a different colored font when I'm being facetious so you can keep up?





pahunkboy -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 11:50:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: housesub4you

See Like I said earlier in this thread, he was dammed because he did and he would have been dammed if he did not.

I do not think this had anything to do with his ego, of course I'm sure many will blame him.  I think Chicago never really had a chance, I mean look at the the corruption in Salt lake city, the bombing in Atlanta and the fact that South America has never held an event like this before.  If you listened to or read news reports from outside the states, almost everyone thought Rio woukd get it

But, enjoy your victory as the USA loses a chance to showcase some good things about our country instead of the ablilty of our troops to kill people.



Chicago would have done a good job.

But- RIO captures it.

The olympics is not the only party of celebration-  I am sure after time to reflect- Chicago - will move on to other things ...that might prove to be a "world event".

The denial says- hey- you need to work harder.   ....so- SHOW ME.







Mercnbeth -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 11:50:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

I'm puzzled by something. I've just looked around the web at the usual conservative suspects, drudge, free republic, fox nation etc. and they are celebrating that Chicago didn't get the Olympics. Which strikes me as odd.

An Olympics will certainly result in lots of construction projects which would serve to stimulate the economy right now when it needs it. It would guarantee an influx of foreign tourists, and therefore foreign money, in 2016 which is good for the economy then.

So why are conservatives celebrating something that is bad for the US economy in the short and the long term?

Maybe some have thought it through and used the past as an indicator of the future:
quote:

There Has "Never Been An Olympic Games That Has Made A Profit." Robert Barney, Director of the International Centre for Olympic Studies at the University of Western Ontario: "'There has never been an Olympic Games that has made a profit....' Fold in all the costs and revenues, he says, 'including federal allotments, municipal allotments, provincial or state allotments, it's always been that a debt has to be paid somewhere.'" (Howard Berkes, "Olympic Caveats: Host Cities Risk Debt, Scandal," NPR, 10/1/09)


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And Chicago Residents, Illinois Taxpayers On The Hook For Overruns: "Chicago officials say there is very little taxpayer funding going to the games up front, though the city and state of Illinois have guaranteed that they will cover hundreds of millions of dollars in potential cost overruns." (David Schaper, "In Chicago, Some Protest Olympic Bid," NPR, 9/30/09)


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American Taxpayers Could Be Put On The Hook As Well. "Chicago and the Obama administration are exploring ways the federal government can bolster the city's bid for the 2016 Olympic Games with financial support for the $1-billion Olympic Village ... Crain's has learned that senior presidential adviser Valerie Jarrett and Lori Healey, president of the Chicago 2016 committee, met this month with top officials of the Department of Housing and Urban Development to discuss financing options for the village, the single biggest project -- and question mark -- in the city's bid." (Paul Merrion, "Chicago 2016 Hunts Fed Cash," Chicago Business, 9/28/09)


Or maybe it's the concern about what Obama owes his Chicago roots; considering that city's corrupt history; especially considering this background of the parties involved.

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And Four Co-Chairs Of Obama's Inaugural Committee Tied To Chicago 2016. "Four of the five co-chairs of Obama's inaugural committee continue to have unpaid leadership roles in Chicago 2016, including Pat Ryan, the chairman and CEO of Chicago 2016; John Rodgers, the treasurer and director of Chicago 2016; Bill Daley, the former Clinton administration commerce secretary and brother of the Chicago mayor; and Penny Pritzker, the Chicago businesswoman and Hyatt hotel heiress who led Obama's meteoric presidential campaign fundraising... Pritzker's family also owns or manages a handful of hotels singled out by Chicago 2016 as accommodations for Olympic workers, press and family members." (Kenneth P. Vogel, "Obama Tied To Olympics, Win Or Lose," Politico, 10/1/09)

Obama Senior Advisor David Axelrod's Former PR Firm Paid To Do Communications Work For Bid Committee. "A.S.K. Public Strategies, the Chicago-based corporate public relations company founded by Obama political guru David Axelrod, has been paid 'a nominal amount of money" by Chicago 2016 to do "communication management [and] communication planning,' said former Axelrod partner Eric Sedler." (Kenneth P. Vogel, "White House Lobbies For Olympics In Chicago," Politico, 5/12/09)

Obama Senior Advisor Valerie Jarrett Was Former Chicago 2016 Vice Chair, Former CEO Of Real Estate Company Hoping To Cash In On Olympic Construction. "Until joining the Obama administration, Jarrett was both vice chair of Chicago 2016, the $49 million nonprofit enterprise created in 2006 to lead the city's bid, and CEO of The Habitat Company, a real estate company that is among the bidders to build the 3,500-unit Olympic Village." (Kenneth P. Vogel, "Obama Tied To Olympics, Win Or Lose," Politico, 10/1/09)


Personally, I don't see any "celebration" I see relief on the part of those who opposed it in consideration of some, or all, of the issues documented.

Of course there are those on both sides, celebrating and sad, whose intellect requires them to insult, mock, or who chose to say call the other sides reaction, "twatism". But there's nothing you can do in those cases except laugh.




Kirata -> RE: Chicago Olympics 2016...Not all Chicagoans seem happy (10/2/2009 11:53:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

So why are conservatives celebrating something that is bad for the US economy in the short and the long term?

Well, it doesn't really seem to be quite so clear cut as that.

Time

The economic benefits of the Olympics for host cities are at best mixed, and the opening bravado often descends into recrimination and regret....

The article concludes...

For municipalities, the Olympics deliver more broken dreams than gold medals.

Not the final word, of course, but maybe reason to be content that we didn't take the gamble.

K.








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