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Fellow -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 6:26:59 PM)
Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck present certain clear ideological positions. They are consistent, stand firm, and this is why they irritate their "liberal" opponents (who have difficulties to defend their positions in open debate). I do not agree with many things Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck advocate but I admire their great talent. Drug use or anything else they do at home is no issue for me. Obamanites certainly want these two off the air and I see the pressure raising.

rulemylife -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 6:28:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tiedtothebed Rush was very open about his addiction which he overcame. That however only reinforces my statement that people attack him with personal attacks. I am listening to his show right now and it is full of verifiable information which every American needs to hear about what is going on in the Obama administration. Obama has doubled our national debt in ONLY NINE MONTHS. Obama is putting Czars in charge of our economy sector by sector following exactly the model of Hitler appointing Albert Speer and his sub Czars to oversee (IE control) each sector of the private economy. These things are far more troubling than any single person abusing himself with excess medication. Canceling the missile defense of our allies in the Czech Republic, Ukraine, and Poland, canceling our weapons in space programs, trying to override the bill of rights and take away the right to bear arms (Hitler's first act in Germany after he took power) will leave the citizenry merciless at the hand of the government. We are diving headlong into totalitarian government where we lose all our freedoms is happening right before our eyes. We are in serious danger. Rush may not be perfect but he is sounding the alarm because people in Washington are attempting to destroy our very way of life. Yes we are in serious danger when people in this country cannot separate fact from fiction and rely on con-artists like Beck and Limbaugh to think for them and do not research the facts themselves. By the way, can you give me documented proof that our national debt has doubled since Obama took office?

rulemylife -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 6:38:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tiedtothebed You may see the details here... http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102808/content/01125110.guest.html . Wait. Let me see if I have this straight. You are quoting Rush Limbaugh to prove what Rush Limbaugh said was right. Where did you take this Logic course again?

tazzygirl -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 6:39:04 PM)
I like having them around. For many, they serve as comic relief. However, i have seen many on these boards call others to stand behind their words. We suffer hypocrites badly in this forum. Yet, Rush is a big one, and so many seem to still follow his lead. Makes me wonder about some people.

servantforuse -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 6:51:31 PM)
Why are all of you on the left so worried about what Rush and Glen say on their shows ? If you don't like them, turn them off and forget about it. You guys won the election, remember. Be happy, or can't you.

thornhappy -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 6:54:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fellow Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck present certain clear ideological positions. They are consistent, stand firm, and this is why they irritate their "liberal" opponents (who have difficulties to defend their positions in open debate). When I was in engineering school I kept weird hours, and was home in the afternoons; I caught Phil Donahue's show from time to time. Rush was there once and got completely hammered by the audience. He backpedaled on his most outrageous comments, and was frankly freaking out. It's not the first time he's weirded out when confronted with a hostile audience. thornhappy

tazzygirl -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 6:54:46 PM)
Oh im extremely happy. Im also happy watching you guys squirm away from the truth about Rush and his hypocracy.

rikigrl -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 7:06:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fellow Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck present certain clear ideological positions. They are consistent, stand firm, and this is why they irritate their "liberal" opponents (who have difficulties to defend their positions in open debate). I do not agree with many things Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck advocate but I admire their great talent. Drug use or anything else they do at home is no issue for me. Obamanites certainly want these two off the air and I see the pressure raising. i have no difficulty defending my opinion, follow the links. They irritate me because they attempt to inflame those who cannot, or will not, seek the truth. Their inflammatory rhetoric is reminiscent of another country in the not so distant past, and anyone who has no issue with the natterings of a drug addled pseudocelebrity has issues of their own.

servantforuse -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 7:09:34 PM)
When is the last time you actually listened to Rush's radio show ?

rulemylife -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 7:23:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse Why are all of you on the left so worried about what Rush and Glen say on their shows ? If you don't like them, turn them off and forget about it. You guys won the election, remember. Be happy, or can't you. Because they are dangerous, and I don't mean just in spouting lies and stirring up hate. Today on Beck's show he did a town hall style event with the audience comprised of "Moms who are frightened". He's been on a crusade against the swine flu vaccine and asked his audience whether we should trust this government to supply a vaccine. A chorus of no's and boos. He then asked how many would not have their children vaccinated. Every hand in the audience went up. So we have a vaccine for a particularly virulent strain of flu that could cause widespread illness and deaths this winter that this moron is encouraging people not to get.

tazzygirl -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 7:31:23 PM)
I wonder how many of these parents will take the responsibility upon themselves when their children develop polio, measels, ect. Aids also changed these viruses, as much as it did pneumonia and TB. New strains, new deseases, many caused by the fact that people are no longer getting vaccinations. quote: Polio is a very serious disease that caused an epidemic in the United States in 1916. This epidemic killed over 6000 people and paralyzed over 27,000 more in the United States alone. In the 1950's every year there were over 20,000 reported cases of Polio. Starting in 1955, the Polio vaccination became available. By the 1960's, the number of reported cases of Polio decreased by about 17,000 people per year. Remarkably, in the year 1979, there were only 10 reported cases of Polio in the United States. Some parts of the world still battle the Polio disease due to not being vaccinated. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/175348/what_is_polio_and_why_you_need_the.html

Kirata -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 7:36:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife Because they are dangerous, and I don't mean just in spouting lies and stirring up hate. Yes, yes, there are good reasons for curbing people's freedom of speech, and just about every other freedom too. And they are very good reasons indeed. But if you decide that those freedoms are just too "dangerous" for people to have, and you conspire to take them away from the people, then you are just another wannabe tyrant. K.

Laymedown60 -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 7:45:16 PM)
rule...give up...you must understand that outside the influence of Limbaugh and Beck there a great many conservatives with legitimate concerns who can be reasoned with and are willing to compromise for the sake of the Country. You will not meet any of those in this thread. You cannot expect to use reason with fanatics who listen and follow talk show hosts rather than legitimate servants of the people. Political fanatics find it impossible to look at both sides of a problem or political position and evaluate its validity. They let their emotions control their actions and are easily manipulated because of it. Fighting against these crippled people to the extreme will only make you look like one of them. Butch

Sanity -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 7:59:53 PM)
And you never know when someone with malicious intent will resort to gross distortions of the truth in order to paint someone up who they disagree with as some kind of a deranged monster, either. We start going down this road all dissenting political speech will be banned eventually. quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata Yes, yes, there are good reasons for curbing people's freedom of speech, and just about every other freedom too. And they are very good reasons indeed. But if you decide that those freedoms are just too "dangerous" for people to have, and you conspire to take them away from the people, then you are just another wannabe tyrant. K.

SpinnerofTales -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 8:01:19 PM)
quote: Yes, yes, there are good reasons for curbing people's freedom of speech, and just about every other freedom too. And they are very good reasons indeed. But if you decide that those freedoms are just too "dangerous" for people to have, and you conspire to take them away from the people, then you are just another wannabe tyrant. ORIGINAL: Kirata I personally have no problem with Limbaugh and Beck being on the air, and as of yet, no one is trying to force Rush and Glen off the air. No one is trying to curtail anyone's freedom of speech. If they were to do so, I know that I would fight it tooth and nail as I would any violation of the first amendment. I believe that Rush and Glen have the right to spout off with the most asinine nonsense they can come up with. They can lie, spout hypocrisy and even urge that people do things that are bad for them (like not getting vaccines). That is because they have the right to do so under our constitution. They are exercising their right of free speech. Likewise, some of us are exercising ours by stating that these men are liars, snake oil salesmen, hypocrites and generally, to quote a famous play, never pushed a noun against a verb except to blow something up. Until the day when any government action is taken to remove these anal warts upon the butt of the public airwaves, the idea that anyone's free speech rights are being infringed remains just another one of many fantasies put forth by these hucksters to sell more soap.

rulemylife -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 8:06:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife Because they are dangerous, and I don't mean just in spouting lies and stirring up hate. Yes, yes, there are good reasons for curbing people's freedom of speech, and just about every other freedom too. And they are very good reasons indeed. But if you decide that those freedoms are just too "dangerous" for people to have, and you conspire to take them away from the people, then you are just another wannabe tyrant. K. And exactly where did I say I was promoting curbing free speech? Or is it just that expressing my right of free speech by calling them dangerous led you to that erroneous assumption? The only thing I am promoting is to make people think about and research what they are listening to, which judging from this thread and what I hear on their shows, many people do not, instead accepting at face value whatever these two frauds decide will get them the highest ratings.

rulemylife -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 8:12:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity And you never know when someone with malicious intent will resort to gross distortions of the truth in order to paint someone up who they disagree with as some kind of a deranged monster, either. We start going down this road all dissenting political speech will be banned eventually. Speaking of those "gross distortions of the truth".

Kirata -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 8:17:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife And exactly where did I say I was promoting curbing free speech? More to the point, where did I say that you were? K.

Sanity -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 9:42:17 PM)
As the OP admitted, Beck and Limbaugh are two of the most popular political commentators in the country, so... doesn't that make those of you who despise them and their audiences the ones who are actually on the fringe? [image]http://www.collarchat.com/upfiles/smiley/idea.gif[/image]

gift4mistress -> RE: Glen Beck and rush Limbaugh. (9/28/2009 10:25:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol It's baffling how idiocy, ignorance and intolerance are considered to be assets, although it's true that in a populist context, these are, indeed, qualities that appeal to a certain segment of the public. Are you saying that Liberals are any better? I kinda of find it appalling that you made such a biased statement as if the liberal segment of society is any better/smarter. I think this shows how much you truly understand America, Human Psychology, Sociology, and politics. Perhaps you should keep your belittling comments to yourself. They (meaning your comments) carry little weight based on lack of clarity and intense generalization. [:-][:-][:-][:-]

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