Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death Page: <<   < prev  1 [2] 3   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 9/30/2009 7:01:48 PM   
IrishMist


Posts: 7480
Joined: 11/17/2005
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

My husband died 15 years ago and when meeting new people the question of if I am single/married comes up and so it usually comes out that I am widowed. It still does make me uncomfortable to answer this sometimes since I lost him when I was young and I still am young and people get all weird around me when I tell them about it.

Then they ask me how I lost him..drunk driver/head on collision at which point they usually want to start apologizing, telling me how sorry they are for me, etc..

These days I just try to keep it all short and sweet...

"widowed 15 years now"

"Oh I'm sooo very sorry for you! How did he die?"

"Drunk driver"

"that's ashame. My condolences."

"Thanks"

and then I try to change the conversation as quickly as possible for everyone involved.


Now this I can relate to. Mine passed almost eleven years ago...when asked about it though, I have found that if I keep it short and unemotional...then it keeps others from 'harping' on it.

_____________________________

If I said something to offend you, please tell me what it was so that I can say it again later.


(in reply to littlewonder)
Profile   Post #: 21
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 9/30/2009 7:06:58 PM   
lovingpet


Posts: 4270
Joined: 6/19/2005
Status: offline
When it is a spouse that is in question and if the widow(er) is young, it just ups the number of questions that get asked and the sympathy factor.  It drove me nuts!  I was just freshly 23 when he passed away and then add in that most people I talked to knew I had a um, it really made it difficult to move on because people just went on and on when I really just wanted them to drop it and let me heal.  I got pretty good at simply avoiding the question altogether for awhile and now only answer it with people who are becoming close to me.  It makes it a lot easier that way.

lovingpet

(in reply to littlewonder)
Profile   Post #: 22
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 9/30/2009 7:36:37 PM   
scarlethiney


Posts: 492
Joined: 8/22/2008
Status: offline
I am so sorry for your loss. 

My first husband died suddenly of a massive heart attack, while he was out of town. The most upsetting thing about his death was the police calling and telling our then sixteen year old son over the phone that they had just found his father dead in his hotel room (they were that blunt).  My son will forever replay that awful conversation in his head.

I am re-married now, so I do not have to explain about my husbands death much any more.  I know it is still difficult for my son to answer questions about his fathers death. He will usually change the subject to some happy memory he has of his time with his father or things they did or change the subject completely.
Father's Day is particularly hard for him even ten years later.

I think most people really do not know how or what to say when they hear that a loved one or close friend has passed and instead of dismissing it by changing the subject, I feel some think it might be appropriate to ask and therefore invite you to discuss the person.  I really have never felt as if anyone asking was being intrusive or tactless, but more sensitive and concerned.
Most people will take the hint if you change the subject that it is too uncomfortable to discuss. The ones who don't are usually shut up with a polite "I don't care to discuss it".


_____________________________

"The words 'I am...' are potent words; be careful what you hitch them to. The thing you're claiming has a way of reaching back and claiming you." - A.L. Kitselman.


see my profile masterkspet

(in reply to wandersalone)
Profile   Post #: 23
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 4:33:26 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
Thank you so much to everyone who has replied so far.  You have given me not only some great ideas on how to answer this question but also helped me to remember that I am not alone in this.  I have found myself nodding my head whilst reading so many of your own experiences, being able to relate personally to the feelings and thoughts expressed.




_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to wandersalone)
Profile   Post #: 24
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 4:36:07 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Wolf2Bear

Mega bear hugz to you wanders. Sadly many people don't understand how deeply an unexpected death of a sibling affects the person. I'd simply say I have two brothers, one living and one who sadly passed away a few years ago. Anyone who respects another's privacy won't question you further. You might feel uncomfortable though that is fleeting and you still have a sense you aren't forgetting the one who passed on. 



smiles.... this seems to have been a theme in many answers here and it really sits comfortably with me as I do still have two brothers don't I? (grins.... for a grown up I can be remarkably dumb at times)

sending you big hugs my friend


_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to Wolf2Bear)
Profile   Post #: 25
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 4:37:10 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Marc2b

quote:

Sometimes I will say I have two brothers and don't elaborate further.


That's pretty much all you need to say to co-workers and casual aquaintances.

If you do need to elaborate further, simply say: "I have two brothers, one who unfortunately has passed away."

If they press for details just say, "I'm not comfortable talking about it."

Any decent person will know that it is now time to change the subject.

My Condolences on your loss.


That is the bit I always get stuck on Marc, feeling ok to say I'd rather not talk about it .... it is something I need to work on.

I appreciate your kind thoughts


_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to Marc2b)
Profile   Post #: 26
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 4:42:37 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: CarrieO

quote:

ORIGINAL: wandersalone


My questions are: how do you answer this type of question and does it get any easier to answer this question?


Hello wandersalone,

Like you, I had a sibling die, goodness can it really be almost 12 yrs ago, and to answer the second part of your question first...yes, it does get easier.  It doesn't hurt any less but it does get easier to tell someone.  The tears still come but it does get easier.

How do I answer this question?  Simple...I have 3 siblings, 2 living and one not.  My sister's death was not natural and painful for me to discuss at length unless its with someone I know and trust.  When I meet people who ask probing questions about her, I generally answer with "Thank you for your concern but I'd rather not discuss it."  Most people will understand but there will always be those with a morbid curiosity.  I've learned to be selective in who I tell.

You're not alone.  I'm sorry for your loss.


Yep Carrie, I too am selective in whom I tell.  The part of your comment that I have bolded means a lot to me as I actually have had people seem surprised that I can still cry so easily when talking about my brother.  Mostly they are tears of gratitude that I had him in my life for so many years and another part of it is pure selfishness as I miss him a lot still.

I sincerely thank you for adding your thoughts


_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to CarrieO)
Profile   Post #: 27
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 4:48:06 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: sappatoti
As to how I answer the inquiries... it depends upon the person doing the asking and the environment where the questions are asked. Casual friends and acquaintances will get a stripped down, generalized, and basic cause, i.e. "It was an accident." Those with whom I'm hoping to forge a more personal and longer-term relationship with will eventually get the complete story, but not before some discussion has taken place about how sensitive an issue it is with me. I wish there was an easier way to answer these types of questions.


smiles...yes Sappa your comments have helped me a lot.   The part I have cut above is definitely how I do things, with people whom I am planning to have an ongoing relationship, not only romantic ones but platonic as well, will all eventually be told everything as this experience changed me forever (I like to think for the better mostly)

I am glad that we are not alone in sharing these experiences though I am sure for each of us it has affected us in many different ways, but we carry these people and their memories with us forever


_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to sappatoti)
Profile   Post #: 28
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 4:53:08 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
heya Hiltie ..... I definitely have come across people who rather than asking me about how or what happened out of a genuine concern for me were doing so to feed their idle curiosity and with those people I will actually be quite direct - well actually he blah blah blah.  Ok possibly I like seeing their discomfort and I hope that it will stop them in the future from being so rude.

And there are some pretty great, empathic and understanding people on here aren't there?


_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to HatesParisHilton)
Profile   Post #: 29
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 4:54:32 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
Personal pain is yours- you are not required to relive it simply because someone asks.   When you choose to disclose this- then it is because you want to- not because they other is prying.


Very try PA, I often forget that I don't owe people answers just because they have asked


_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to pahunkboy)
Profile   Post #: 30
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 4:56:34 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: purepleasure

I simply answer, "I am the eldest of 3 children", then change the subject.  It's not their business of any of my siblings' business.  If pressed further, "May I ask why you need this information?" usually stops further questioning.

Pure, this is another great question for me to keep in mind.  Thank you so much for sharing your responses


_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to purepleasure)
Profile   Post #: 31
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 5:00:29 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen
If a person asks further you're always entitled to say its none of their business or to say he died and that you'd rather not keep discussing the matter.

Yes this is coming up as a theme in the responses and I can see that I need to do some work on myself to see why I don't feel able/comfortable in saying this.

Thank you for your post DomKen


_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to DomKen)
Profile   Post #: 32
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 5:05:55 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: wandersalone

how do you answer this type of question and does it get any easier to answer this question?

I get the same question about my nephews, and my brother gets it about his sons. But the question is always phrased in the here and now, and we just go with that. It's an honest answer. Saying anything more is more than was asked. And, too, personally at least, I don't feel that a here and now answer negates or denies someone's existence in the here and then, or their present existence elsewhere now (assuming your beliefs are such). It simply answers the question as asked.

Just my solution....

K.



hmmmmm the distinction between ere and now and here and then is interesting Kirata.  for me I definitely feel as if I am dishonouring my brother by not acknowledging he existed but maybe it is more about recognising that I don't have to share this information every time someone asks me this question.

I appreciate your thoughts on this Kirata


_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to Kirata)
Profile   Post #: 33
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 5:13:22 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Viridana
Not that I am ashamed of him taking his own life, I just dislike this faux "aaaaw poor you, I'm so sowwwy" attitude that is often generated.  

If you could see me now I am nodding my head in agreement Viridana.  I am not ashamed that my brother killed himself, ironically I had done a lot of work with survivors of suicide (both the people left behind and attempters) long before he died so at times I still do use him as a way to educate some people and do my bit to keep this important topic out in the open but damn, some of the reactions and responses I have had from people are what make me very reluctant to go into the details - actual comments I have had include "how selfish of him to do that" and my all time favourite "you are a psychologist, why didn't you try to stop him

thank you for posting on this topic Viridana, I appreciate it


_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to Viridana)
Profile   Post #: 34
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 5:16:37 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: DomImus
Some good did come from his untimely passing. It brought to the surface many feelings and much grief I had never dealt with from my mother's death fifteen years prior to his. I'm in a much better place in that regard because of his passing.

This doesn't really address your situation but your post made me think about it.


This is very much the same for me and my family DomImus, the saddest experience in our lives has also enabled us to build a bond with each other that was never there when he was alive so I am thankful for that happening

thank you for sharing your experience


_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to DomImus)
Profile   Post #: 35
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 5:20:09 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist

I have lost three siblings...I am the only one left out of 4. It's rare though that I get anyone asking about my brother or sisters; and if they do,I simply tell them the truth...that they have all passed away. Since I tend not to make a big deal of it, they don't either ( meaning overboard wth the sympathy and such ).


I read your post a couple of hours ago IrishMist and have been thinking about it.  I know that I react to these questions almost like a rabbit in the headlights and I think this can in turn cue the other person to .... to use your words, go overboard with the sympathy.   Hmmmm something else for me to think about.

Thank you for your words


_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to IrishMist)
Profile   Post #: 36
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 5:21:46 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

I tell people that my wife died from lead poisoning.
They say, "Lead poisoning?" I say, "Yeah, I shot her!"


smiles.... I never know when you are joking or not Popeye - thank you for the laugh


_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to popeye1250)
Profile   Post #: 37
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 5:24:33 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: thornhappy
I have the exact problem - conversation often comes to a standstill. A lot seem more taken aback that it was a suicide and simply don't know what to say.


smiles..... Thorny, I think i would prefer the people who don't know what to say rather than the ones who insist on sharing their value laden judgments about suicide.   It is funny though that I always feel bad for making the person uncomfortable even though I only volunteer the extra information in reply to their direct question.




_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to thornhappy)
Profile   Post #: 38
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 5:30:53 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: lovingpet

My first husband and the father of my older um passed away about 10 years ago.  He commited suicide too, so I know where you are coming from on this.  To just say, I've been married twice or some other such things seems not quite right somehow.  I can't say it has gotten any easier to answer over time.  One of the main concerns has been that my um would hear the "full" story from someone other than me, but the um was an infant when it happened, so I am only now getting to the point of thinking it may be time for more of the truth.  It has been spoon sized doses so far.  Another concern is that if I approach more casually and my um hears of that after knowing the rest of the story that I will come off cold hearted to the whole thing which is far from the case.
lovingpet


This was a major issue for us as well Lovingpet, my niece is now 18 and my nephew is 22 and this happened ten years ago.  We agreed from the start to be completely open with them and I guess I was able to provide a bit of extra support and advice for them and answer any questions they had specifically about suicide.  Of course they were a lot older than yours.  Sadly they both had some very hurtful things said to them at school about their dad's death but thankfully they have grown up into two wonderful young adults - not that I am biased. My big fear was always that if we didn't tell them the truth that they would find out from somewhere else.


_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to lovingpet)
Profile   Post #: 39
RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 5:34:13 AM   
wandersalone


Posts: 4666
Joined: 11/21/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Muttling

Death of people who are close to you leaves a mark.  I was in Iraq 6 years ago and I take pride in that, but its still hard to answer people when they ask if any of my people died.  I lost 4 and it still hurts like hell.

When I get aggrevated over getting upset about it, I ask myself "How would I feel about myself if I didn't get upset about it?"


I can't begin to imagine the experiences you went through Muttling and I sincerely thank you for replying to this topic.  The part in bold is definitely something that has crossed my mind ..... I like to think that I still feel sad and miss him at times because I loved him, and that is a gift to me. 


_____________________________

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King
Godmother of the subbie mafia
My all time favourite threads
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2002501
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=790885

(in reply to Muttling)
Profile   Post #: 40
Page:   <<   < prev  1 [2] 3   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death Page: <<   < prev  1 [2] 3   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.094