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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 5:36:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

My husband died 15 years ago and when meeting new people the question of if I am single/married comes up and so it usually comes out that I am widowed. It still does make me uncomfortable to answer this sometimes since I lost him when I was young and I still am young and people get all weird around me when I tell them about it.

Then they ask me how I lost him..drunk driver/head on collision at which point they usually want to start apologizing, telling me how sorry they are for me, etc..

These days I just try to keep it all short and sweet...

"widowed 15 years now"

"Oh I'm sooo very sorry for you! How did he die?"

"Drunk driver"

"that's ashame. My condolences."

"Thanks"

and then I try to change the conversation as quickly as possible for everyone involved.

I can only nod my head in understanding LittleWonder.... especially the final sentence of yours

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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 5:40:38 AM   
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sometimes it'd be nice if just 1% of the physical world could be like the folks n CM.

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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 5:47:32 AM   
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I am so sorry for your loss. 

My first husband died suddenly of a massive heart attack, while he was out of town. The most upsetting thing about his death was the police calling and telling our then sixteen year old son over the phone that they had just found his father dead in his hotel room (they were that blunt).  My son will forever replay that awful conversation in his head.

I am re-married now, so I do not have to explain about my husbands death much any more.  I know it is still difficult for my son to answer questions about his fathers death. He will usually change the subject to some happy memory he has of his time with his father or things they did or change the subject completely.
Father's Day is particularly hard for him even ten years later.

I think most people really do not know how or what to say when they hear that a loved one or close friend has passed and instead of dismissing it by changing the subject, I feel some think it might be appropriate to ask and therefore invite you to discuss the person.  I really have never felt as if anyone asking was being intrusive or tactless, but more sensitive and concerned.
Most people will take the hint if you change the subject that it is too uncomfortable to discuss. The ones who don't are usually shut up with a polite "I don't care to discuss it".



ScarletHiney what an awful way for your son to hear of his dad's death.  I got the dreaded knock on the door as I was living in another city and my family didn't want to tell me over the phone.  I really like how you said that your son will mention a happy memory he has of his dad, that is exactly what my niece and nephew do and yes Fathers day is difficult for them as well as Christmas as that is the day it happened (at least I have a good excuse when people complain that they don't get christmas cards from me )

I appreciate you sharing your own experience with us and thank you so much


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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 5:49:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton

sometimes it'd be nice if just 1% of the physical world could be like the folks n CM.

smiles.... do you know what Hiltie...... I totally agree with you

sends you a hug interstate


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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 6:20:14 AM   
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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 7:21:47 AM   
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i am so sorry for your loss, wandersalone...~looks about the board and smiles softly~...and for the others who have shared their experience of loss, as well.

grief is such a personal issue and no two individuals process it the same.  i am in a similar situation and i find myself struggling at times, like you, with what i should say when asked, or how to answer the question without feeling guilty by not accounting for my lost loved one.  i've come to accept that there is no right or wrong answer to this.  i share different information depending on whom it is inquiring and what i perceive their intentions are.  i am selective and i make no apologies for this.

for me, those instances where i am more comfortable sharing, i try to lessen the blow initially by starting off with "this will come as a shock to you" and then proceed with my loss stemming from a suicide.  this seems to allow them some preparation to receive this information that they most likely were not expecting and my hope is that it gives them a moment to find their common sense and realize that it's not appropriate for them to ask for further details.  of course, it doesn't always goes as i hope.  if that's the case, i simply say "as you can imagine, this is a very personal issue for me and it's one i do not wish to discuss."  most will take your words to heart and refrain from any more questions.

i feel it is human nature to be inquisitive, especially about the subject of suicide.  unfortnately, a great deal of individuals let their curiosity override their common sense and tact and we are the ones left to deal with their short comings.  sadly, this is just another aspect that must be added to the already complicated web of grief that we have found ourselves caught in.

sincerely,
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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 7:32:38 AM   
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What a thread here.

My exes family/he had to guess when to tell me my dad passed.   (btw- this ex will take my calls- no hard feelings there. :-))
We were in NY. My brother tried to have us located. When I spoke to his mom- she said-try to get home quickly.  I am glad I did not have to drive across county  all upset.  Then when I dropped the ex off- he was then told by his mom on the phone- and he then told me. I was glad he did- as that was maybe a 3 mile drive - and I might have walked into a bunch of head strong relatives after a tiring trip. Anyhow both his mom and he asked is they handled it right- and I think they did as I would no way have been able to drive 700 miles with that on my mind...

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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 7:34:16 AM   
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My eldest brother died 39 years ago, and it does get easier...and in time it also hurts less, at least it did for me. As to what to say, I say I have 2 brothers because that is what I have....I had a 3rd brother in the past but no longer do. It is no disrespect to the dead sibling to say this as it is simply the truth. It is nobody's business that I lost a brother, that is something I will tell people only when it is appropriate, I have friends I have had for many years whom I have not mentioned my dead brother to....it just never became relevant to the relationship so I haven't told them. If it is relevant, then I will let them know...they usually ask about it and I generally tell them whatever they are asking, but that is my choice, I don't feel obligated to tell them anything.

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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 10:36:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: wandersalone

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ORIGINAL: Viridana
Not that I am ashamed of him taking his own life, I just dislike this faux "aaaaw poor you, I'm so sowwwy" attitude that is often generated.  

If you could see me now I am nodding my head in agreement Viridana.  I am not ashamed that my brother killed himself, ironically I had done a lot of work with survivors of suicide (both the people left behind and attempters) long before he died so at times I still do use him as a way to educate some people and do my bit to keep this important topic out in the open but damn, some of the reactions and responses I have had from people are what make me very reluctant to go into the details - actual comments I have had include "how selfish of him to do that" and my all time favourite "you are a psychologist, why didn't you try to stop him

thank you for posting on this topic Viridana, I appreciate it

This has ben the part of people's reactions to my mothers suicide I've never been able to get used to. I've never been able to sort out my own emotions on the subject and certainly don't need outsiders passing judgement on what my mother did.

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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 5:44:14 PM   
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To the Op...without reading through the responses...I have a sister that died of unknown causes when I was 13 and she was 19.
When people ask me about siblings I tell them I have 4 sisters, 1 brother and 1 sister died at the young age of 19. When they ask why..I just tell them it was undetermined and most will leave it at that. Some probe but most do not. Although she has been dead longer than her physical life she is and always will be my sister and I consider her part of my family.

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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 6:56:37 PM   
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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/1/2009 7:31:46 PM   
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i have two siblings. One sadly passed away and it makes me sad to talk about it.
I will always count them both as they are both in my heart.

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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/2/2009 6:02:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kayzes
i feel it is human nature to be inquisitive, especially about the subject of suicide.  unfortnately, a great deal of individuals let their curiosity override their common sense and tact and we are the ones left to deal with their short comings.sadly, this is just another aspect that must be added to the already complicated web of grief that we have found ourselves caught in.
sincerely,
kayzes


I know I have said this so much in my replies to everyone and here I go again.... Kayzes thank you so much for sharing your own experience here with us.  It really has been a lesson in humility for me to read the replies from people here. 

The part I have quoted above is so true for me.  I really think that thee are some people who just have so little insight that they don't realise that asking that one extra question or making that one extra comment can impact on the other person. 

As I have been reading and replying to the posts here I keep getting reminded of some of the more bizarre comments and questions I have had over the years.  I always am astounded when after hearing that he suicided proceeds to ask - "how did he do it?".  Truly a WTF moment.

Thank you again Kayzes


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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/2/2009 6:04:05 AM   
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smiles.... that is what I have to remember Arpig, that I am not obligated to answer questions simply because they are asked. 

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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/2/2009 6:09:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: califsue
Although she has been dead longer than her physical life she is and always will be my sister and I consider her part of my family.


smiles ........ this is definitely how I feel as well. 

In the beginning one of my coping mechanisms was to pretend that he had gone overseas on an extended holiday.


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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/2/2009 6:13:33 AM   
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Yep Muttling there are some incredibly compassionate people here.... who'd a thunk it!!!! 


<------ me who is more than a little proud to call some from here my RL friends (damn I need to save up for my next trip o/s!!)


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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/2/2009 8:08:23 AM   
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I always say I have 4 children when asked, although I lost my youngest aged 10 years.

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RE: awkward questions sort of relating to death - 10/2/2009 8:25:54 AM   
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*hugs Wanders, and everyone else who has experienced such losses*




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