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Amaros -> RE: Christian Dominants (10/3/2009 10:13:04 AM)
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ORIGINAL: DemonKia
Lovely postings in this thread, Amaros . . . . . But I gotta quibble with this particular detail, quoted below.
Buddha died from food poisoning, in his 80's. He spent the rest of his life, after attaining enlightenment in his 30's, wandering, teaching, & begging for food . . . . . .
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ORIGINAL: Amaros
Graham eventually proved to be unable to control his appetites, and like another famous spiritual leader, Buddha, ate himself to death.
As for the OP, I'm not much help as I've never chosen to be Christian despite the ministrations of my maternal grama throughout my childhood . . . ..
I do note that this thread has repeatedly fallen into the pit of confusing submission & passivity, which distinction is apparently a tough one to get . . . .
& there's this thing that goes on where humans have tendencies to dichotomize things, & then take that & make it a 100% consistent correlation for any related characteristic. A lot of this kind of thinking goes on, such as: dominant = leader = strong = active = assertive = . . . . . & then anyone or thing that is judged 'dominant' is implicitly packed up with all these other associated characteristics . . . .
The problem of course is that darn few things in the universe have 100% consistent correlation, & much of the universe exists in much slighter relationship with everything else . . . .
Fascinating thread, tho' . . . . Thanks much to all who contributed . . . ..
Thanks Kia I've read that Buddha liked his curry, and died of an ulcerated stomach, I've never seen a skinny Buddha - at any rate, he is recorded as wrestling with sexual demons, so there is some antecedent for a link between religious experience and ertophobia, given that the majority of the surrounding Vedic culture was religiously and spiritually erotophillic.
Nealry all major culture appear to become formally erotophobic, due largely to reproductive politics - i.e. women carry the full evolutionary cost of childbirth for inescapable reasons of biology, monogamy is a system whereby she can distribute thise costs and share them with a partner, formally a man, and the fatehr of the child, thus it is in the mans interest to assure himself the child he is devoting his resources to is his, thus the high value of virginity, and formal rejection of public eroticism for fear that the whole system will break down, erotomania, which expresses itself as erotophobia.
A number of religions, rituals, and sects however, have revolved around erotolepsy, something like the evangelical equivilent of writhing on the floor and speaking in tongues.
These rites and sects typically reflect the primal value of fertility, and fertility rites are deeply and universally associated with sexual expression.
The word "Whore" derives from Horae, who were women of status, valued not only for their skills of seduction, but their learning and wisdom, the equivilent of the Wiseman. Objectifed by competitive androcentric religion that reduced women to chattel in an exaggerated expression of reproductive politics, jealous of their status, they become villified as "whores", although even throughout the Victorian era, Prostitutes often had higher informal social status than formal socialites, were courted, admired, and celebrated, although the spiritual elements of the role have been largley excised.
Probably not useful in terms of Christian D/S, but it never hurts to expand ones understanding of the patterns of the spiritual/religious impulse.
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