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RE: Is a Depression coming in 2010. a real possibility? - 10/9/2009 10:43:19 PM

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A depression? Haven't you guys heard? We have a Nobel Peace Prize winner in the White House!!!
Ha, Ha, Ha, I laugh at depressions/recessions now!

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RE: Is a Depression coming in 2010. a real possibility? - 10/10/2009 7:14:22 AM

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In my case, I was using the term "tactical nuke" as an indication of the physical size of the device. Not so much it's yeild or how "dirty" it may be. In all likliehood, a weapon that terrorists would get their hands on would be either home made, or originally of soviet bloc manufacture. Either way, you can be fairly sure that the blast would be measurable in comparison to eith Hiroshima or Nagasaki.

But you miss the whole point of my previous post: I'm saying if there is a second great depression coming or not... or if there is another attack on US soil or not... it's good to stay prepared for a possible breakdown in society.

I keep about a month's supply of food around at all times.
I keep a well stocked first aid kit. (with some antibiotics that I can use for barter)
I know where I can get fresh water on my land.
I have all the cookware I need to cook in my fireplace, or over an open fire outside.

I'm not saying we should all dig in and be paranoid survivalists... but I am saying it's better to be prepared than caught with your pants down.

Point taken. I wasn't sure why you were lumping the two together, but I can see where you're coming from now.

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RE: Is a Depression coming in 2010. a real possibility? - 10/10/2009 11:26:31 AM

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Even if the nuke scenario doesn't come to pass, there are a hundred other reasons to prepare: anything from another ice storm like the one we had here in 2001, to economic collapse, to an epidemic, to war, to the unthinkable.

Mars, for the first time in a long time, I can say that I fully agree with you. Preperation is a neccessity.

Up in our part of the state, we had an ice storm that was far worse than 2001 just last year. The amount of damage it caused due to downed power poles and other infrastructure damage was worse than that caused by Katrina. Even the work crews from Louisiana said that they had never seen anything like it. They declared parts of five states disaster areas and amazingly we barely made the news at all. A little preperation on the part of my family got us through it just fine. We had no power for 17 days but we got through it.

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RE: Is a Depression coming in 2010. a real possibility? - 10/10/2009 11:31:53 AM

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A store of food and one of those wood burning stoves that runs the heating?

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RE: Is a Depression coming in 2010. a real possibility? - 10/11/2009 6:45:03 PM

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I read that for ALMOST every job that opens up, there will be at least 6 applicants,
if not more.
It appears that all many job seekers want for Christmas these days, is a job!
Santa! All many want for Christmas is a job.

Retailers likely to hire fewer seasonal workers this year - Oct. 11, 2009

Competition for jobs even tougher now - Careers- msnbc.com

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RE: Is a Depression coming in 2010. a real possibility? - 10/11/2009 6:53:03 PM

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Where are all of the jobs promised by Obama ? They are not coming. Businesses will not hire new employees as long as more taxes to support health care reform and cap and trade are on the horizen.

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RE: Is a Depression coming in 2010. a real possibility? - 10/11/2009 6:58:04 PM

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Where are all of the jobs promised by Obama ? They are not coming. Businesses will not hire new employees as long as more taxes to support health care reform and cap and trade are on the horizen.

I think President Obama is doing the best he can. This train was already rolling downhill way before President Obama was elected.
Do you think it is easy to jump in front of a train traveling downhill with no breaks?

What do you think life would be like these days without the extended unemployment benefits?

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RE: Is a Depression coming in 2010. a real possibility? - 10/11/2009 7:09:16 PM

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The train could be stopped if Obama changed gears from being an anti-business administration to pro-business.

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RE: Is a Depression coming in 2010. a real possibility? - 10/11/2009 7:22:58 PM

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I read that too. Did you also see the large number of jobs that are going unfilled because Americans are ill-prepared to fill them? Engineering, nursing, medicine, accounting, biotechnology...tons of jobs need to be filled in those areas. Americans need to get off their liberal arts educated asses and get some re-education in some harder fields that require a little more than a degree in creative writing.

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I read that for ALMOST every job that opens up, there will be at least 6 applicants,
if not more.
It appears that all many job seekers want for Christmas these days, is a job!
Santa! All many want for Christmas is a job.

Retailers likely to hire fewer seasonal workers this year - Oct. 11, 2009

Competition for jobs even tougher now - Careers- msnbc.com

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RE: Is a Depression coming in 2010. a real possibility? - 10/19/2009 7:02:16 PM

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Well Chewsie, going back to school is not going to be the answer for everyone.
The Dow is up a bit, but the numbers for unemployment remain very dismisal.
I heard today, that when you count the people that have given up looking for a job, and those that have had to settle for only part time work, the numbers are close to 20%.
How sad is that?

This article saddens me, but I think this is going to be a new reality for a long time.
It's a new day.

High jobless rates could be the new normal - Stocks & economy- msnbc.com

High joblessness, the new normal?
Good news: Women also now are making up more than 50% of the work force.
Bad news: 3/4 of the jobs that have been lost since 2007, were held by men.
As Layoffs Surge, Women May Pass Men in Job Force - NYTimes.com

The Scariest Jobs Chart Ever

Hang on to your hat's folks, it is going to be a long and bumpy ride for many people.

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RE: Is a Depression coming in 2010. a real possibility? - 10/19/2009 7:54:59 PM

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Hi Mia,

I agree, it could be a great option for a very large number of people though. There is a ton of money available right now for school through the government because of the stimulus plan. This goes beyond people going back to school though, people currently in school need to be majoring in the hard sciences, engineering, medicine, and nursing too...enough with the liberal arts, fine arts, history degree BS.

I think it could be the new normal for a while. Eventually another bubble will inflate, banks will be encouraged to loan and loan and loan to anyone even the neighborhood golden retriever as they did before, and Americans will get spending drunk again on credit...and the cycle will repeat. I just don't think it will be a housing bubble, it may be a health care bubble which will be fabulous for anyone who starts or currently owns a health care related company.

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Well Chewsie, going back to school is not going to be the answer for everyone.
The Dow is up a bit, but the numbers for unemployment remain very dismisal.
I heard today, that when you count the people that have given up looking for a job, and those that have had to settle for only part time work, the numbers are close to 20%.
How sad is that?

This article saddens me, but I think this is going to be a new reality for a long time.
It's a new day.

High jobless rates could be the new normal - Stocks & economy- msnbc.com

High joblessness, the new normal?
Good news: Women also now are making up more than 50% of the work force.
Bad news: 3/4 of the jobs that have been lost since 2007, were held by men.
The Scariest Jobs Chart Ever

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RE: Is a Depression coming in 2010. a real possibility? - 10/19/2009 8:16:55 PM

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Thank you for the response!
I agree, that if you can become involved in the health care bubble, you
will be in good shape.

Also, many more health care workers will be needed across the board as we
continue down the road to some sort of health care reform.

I still feel that many people do not have the ability to pursue a college degree, but
I think we will see an increase in those going to trade schools and on the job training programs.

I still think that the government is going to have to become more involved in some sort of major job training or job creation program.

Is there anyway we can bring back some of the thousands of jobs we have outsourced?
Are we capable of actually making, manufacturing and producing products and goods in the USA????
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