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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/9/2009 9:53:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I saw your post rml but felt that what I wrote was already perfectly clear, and that further elaboration on my part wouldn't help you understand my point any better.



Back to speaking in tongues again?

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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/9/2009 9:57:47 PM   
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Could someone in here tell me what President Obama *actually did* to get the Nobel Peace Prize?


He just "IS" Popeye.  That seems to be the measure this year.  Or maybe they just wanted to give the USA another medal.  I understand we got several of the awards this year

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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/9/2009 11:51:24 PM   
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...and it's not like a lot of people are trying to bring about peace these days.


That's because peace doesn't pay. But if it did...

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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 1:46:47 AM   
Alphascendant


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Status: offline 		Oddly, nobody has mentioned this former nominee as of yet:

http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/nomination.php?action=show&showid=2609

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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 2:42:30 AM   
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"Too soon."

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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 3:54:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Ah, yes. The Noble Liberal, and "Peace in our time".



Aw, Sanity, I love ya, man. Bringing up Neville Chamberlain, waving that piece of paper, the very personification of appeasement to this day.

One little thing, though. In 1930 Chamberlain, elected as a Conservative MP, became Chairman of the Conservative Party. During this period, he founded and became the first head of the Conservative Research Department. He went on to serve as the Conservative Minister of Health, and became Prime Minister on 28 May 1937, and leader of the Conservative Party a few days later. The next year, he sold out the Czechs to appease Hitler.

And so came the largest, deadliest war ever fought. But they probably didn't give him the Nobel Prize because he was....wait, what was it? 

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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 4:17:13 AM   
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Its not an embarrassment for me, its an embarrassment for Obama, and for the Nobel Committee.



I doubt its embarrassing for Obama at all.  Nor do I think the Nobel Committee is embarrassed, either.  It's just your words...your thoughts...which (for me, anyway) makes me want to argue the other way, just for a devils advocate thing (whether or not I believe it or not).  You have such a way about you, Sanity.  I try to believe you couldn't possibly, really, actually believe the things you write.

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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 4:30:45 AM   
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This far "right" household is happy he won. Congrats. Regardless of how we feels about his politics or policies, the man has much to be proud of. ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie




Chewsie, thank you. It is really a good thing to see someone who doesn't let their disagreement with a political leader's policies turn into such a blind nay-saying that everything that happens that even touches on them becomes a horror. It is an example that both sides of the aisle around here should study and learn from, and yes, I include myself in those who can take a lesson well learned from it.

Again, thank you.


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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 4:36:15 AM   
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I'm still a little confused by the right's position:




Well there are enough on the left that hold the same position, why don't you ask one of them to explain it to you?


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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 5:06:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mcbride

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Ah, yes. The Noble Liberal, and "Peace in our time".



Aw, Sanity, I love ya, man. Bringing up Neville Chamberlain, waving that piece of paper, the very personification of appeasement to this day.

One little thing, though. In 1930 Chamberlain, elected as a Conservative MP, became Chairman of the Conservative Party. During this period, he founded and became the first head of the Conservative Research Department. He went on to serve as the Conservative Minister of Health, and became Prime Minister on 28 May 1937, and leader of the Conservative Party a few days later. The next year, he sold out the Czechs to appease Hitler.

And so came the largest, deadliest war ever fought. But they probably didn't give him the Nobel Prize because he was....wait, what was it? 



Shhhhhhhhhhh McBride, England is socialist country didn't you know???..... so a Conservative to the UK population is a liberal in the US, hence the discombobulation of Obama being considered a Conservative in the UK and a marxist communist mooozlem to some of the "right" in the US.
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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 5:20:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I heard that Obama was also nominated for the Nobel Prize for Chemistry. "He's just got chemistry!" said the Nobel committee. *wink*  

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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 6:43:11 AM   
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Democrats: run people for office who win Nobel Prizes.

Republicans: run people for office that can wink and do "facy pagent walkin'."


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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 7:05:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree that Palin had her chance and blew it since she wasn't thoroughly prepared by her handlers for the Katy Couric interview, but to argue that Democrats select candidates who win nobel peace prizes is just proof of how asleep you really are.

The people who issue the nobel peace prize are foreigners who obviously put their interest above everyone else's including ours. When they select a democrat for the prize as they have selected Al Gore, and Jimmy Carter in the past, it proves that they see that person as someone who puts Americans second. Obviously, grandiose talk of world peace, and ending religious conflict appeals to them, but that is not reality. The reality is that terrorists and insurgents only get stronger if you negotiate with them or capitulate.

Another reality is that fundamentalists Christians won't cut your head off if you don't believe the way they do, but radical Isalamist and the taliban will. We are already seeing indications that this administration is going to abandon taking on the taliban, and focus on Al Qaeda. You are about to witness one of the biggest mistakes in history. Once the taliban is allowed to regain control of their country they will expand their influence into Pakistan. It's very possible that in the future the taliban will be in control of nuclear weapons.

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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 7:15:01 AM   
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Oddly, nobody has mentioned this former nominee as of yet:

http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/nomination.php?action=show&showid=2609


Being a nominee means little.  Getting the prize is something else altogether.

Back on topic, the Prize has been oddly awarded before.  Kissinger won it once, and the Vietnam war had his fingerprints all over it.  Gore won it once, and the relationship between global warming and peace is tenuous to nonexistent.

I hope that Obama does deserve the Prize some day.  But he hasn't earned it yet.  He either got it for good intentions, or for simply not being Bush.


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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 7:27:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls

The people who issue the nobel peace prize are foreigners who obviously put their interest above everyone else's including ours.


I hate them god-durned fureigners.

How in thee hell can you trust anyone who doesn't have the God-given common sense to reside in the good ole US of A?

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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 7:43:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Being nominated may indeed mean little, but it is interesting that Der Fuehrer was nominated at all, especially in 1939. Maybe he was nominated because he hadn't started the war yet? Luckilly the rules were amended in 1974 to prohibit posthumous winners or he still might have a shot at it.

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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 8:07:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Alphascendant

Being nominated may indeed mean little, but it is interesting that Der Fuehrer was nominated at all, especially in 1939. Maybe he was nominated because he hadn't started the war yet? Luckilly the rules were amended in 1974 to prohibit posthumous winners or he still might have a shot at it.

Being nominated means nothing. Any elected government official can nominate someone. Which was the case with Hitler.

They keep nomination information secret for 50 years but I'm more than willing to bet that in 2054 or so it will come out that Bush, Cheney, Idi Amin and Saddam were all nominated.

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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 8:09:36 AM   
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I saw your post rml but felt that what I wrote was already perfectly clear, and that further elaboration on my part wouldn't help you understand my point any better.



That depends which post you mean, because if it was this one it is not clear at all and requires a great deal of further elaboration:


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


One person's "invade" is another person's "liberate". For example, how many American invasions were less than honorable during the last world war? Yours is a political judgment, and so was that of the Nobel Committee.


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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 8:13:12 AM   
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A quick explanation as to the process of nomination. Seems someone thought Obama made a good candidate back then.

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RE: Obama wins Nobel Prize - 10/10/2009 9:02:29 AM   
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For my opinion of the fairy tale that Reagan ended the cold war see post 96.

For an opinion on what a fairy tale your opinion is, see here:

Slate, June 9, 2004

K.


It seems that someone else doesn't think my opinion such a fairytale see here:
http://www.time.com/time/time100/leaders/profile/walesa.html

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