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aidan -> RE: Feminism (11/4/2009 9:48:21 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Elisabella
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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama
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I'm sorry, which viewpoint of mine have I tried to enact into law?
You run an anti-feminist website. Blogging is political action in the modern world. This is not "irrelevant snark". You are actively working to rescind women's rights and obstruct their attempts to achieve equality.
You are an evil being.
Which legal rights am I actively working to rescind? Please either specifically quote me on this thread or stop spewing blatant lies.
I've said at least three times in this thread I don't have a problem with the legal aspects of feminism. Are you illiterate or do you just have comprehension problems?
You're rude, you're incoherent, incongruent, and a hypocrite. You say you respect a woman's choice to be submissive yet you only respect that choice in a very narrow context that you approve of. You're a fascist and the only reason you compare other people to nazis is because you assume everyone else is as anti-choice as you are.
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That would be the difference between me and, say, an anti-feminist troll who freely admits that she offends other people deliberately at every opportunity, and works daily to make the world a stupider, more unjust, more racist and sexist place.
Not that I'm pointing any fingers.
How dare you call me a troll. You're spewing random, blind accusations, you can't even bother attempting to find a quote that would back you up because you know there isn't one. Where have I freely admitted I offend other people deliberately at every opportunity?
You know what? Whatever hurt you so bad to make you like this...I'm glad. I have no sympathy for you whatsoever. You're a cruel, lying, miserable wretch of a woman who has thus far taken every opportunity to direct the conversation away from the ideas and toward personal attacks.
Tell me, how does it feel to be a liar? How does it feel to have an argument so flimsy that the only way you can support it is by making stuff up?
I shouldn't have even replied to your reply to my post directed at Loki, but that post seemed innocuous enough. It actually had substance. Silly me for thinking we could actually have a conversation. Two posts later, same old bullshit from Shakti - someone disagrees with me so I'll insult them, the Nazi insult didn't go over so well so I'll call her a racist this time. Well isn't that just brilliant. Bravo, Shakti, that shows some real intellectual calibre.
I've tried again and again to respond to your posts on-topic, but again and again you slip little digs in there against me as a person, and I'm done with it. I'm neither a nazi nor a racist, I'm a woman who has made a free choice to disagree with your worldview, and again and again you stick your head in the sand and come up with the most random, off the wall theories as to why I do so. I can't *really* be an anti-feminist, I'm just brainwashed by society. I can't *really* be an anti-feminist, I'm an evil racist nazi. I can't *really* think that your brand of feminism is destructive for both women and men, of course not...I have to be a radical fundamentalist who wants to take away the right for women to vote.
That's the only way it makes sense to you, isn't it? The only women who don't agree with you are somehow defective. No woman would choose to be a cheerleader if she had a *real* choice, so in your ideal world you'll take that choice away because in your ideal world cheerleading wouldn't exist. Go free choice! Go you! You're such a liberator, you really want to save people from their own choices.
If you want to talk about the ideas, I'll be happy to. If you keep up these dishonest accusations forget it, I won't bother debating with someone who doesn't believe in their own position enough to stick to it without resorting to ad hominem attacks.
Oh for christ's sakes...
Look, you have said repeatedly in this thread that you oppose the social aspects of feminism, most of which would be codified into law because that's how social engineering works in a complex civilization. So there, there's your explanation for why she, and I, say that you're working to rescind rights and stand in the way of progress.
As for Shakti being a "fascist" or "anti-choice," lady, you're full of shit and blatantly ignoring content. It is not about ending cheerleading - though if it did end, you wouldn't see me or her shed a tear most likely. Neither here nor there. It's about it being set up, by our culture, as a sexualy exploitative and undermining practice that is publically supported with state-appropriated funds. If it wasn't set up as a ritualistic proxy of male dominance, I really don't think she'd give much a shit. I know I wouldn't. But as it is, yeah, it's bullshit and I don't feel like it should be supported by a public institution.
Yes, you are a troll. You're a female submissive who enjoys male dominants, coming into a thread about a socio-poltical movement you despise, on a forum for a sexual orientation you don't truck with, having the expressed purpose of saying things to piss people off. That is trolling.
And Loki, let me assure you that you say or could say would get under her skin. If you don't like "soulless misogynist monster" though, there's plenty of other accurate descriptions. How about pox on the species? Barbarous troglodytic throwback? There's quite a list.
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