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knees2you -> Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 5:25:21 PM)

I was just reading a Profile
and The T.S. Dominate was looking for a
Slut Pig.
Looking for someone to eat off the floor,
and sleep on the floor as well!
To bath the Dominate as much as they felt needed,
to be a good human toilet for them!
Also taking them where ever they needed.
Buying Grocceries, Cleaning the house and doing all the Jobs
the Dom is use to.

First of all I didn't know Pigs could Drive?

They were saying that binding Contract would be
Drawn up and that the SlutPig {Slave}
would sign said Contarct and being the Slave that he was,
He would not be allowed to have any contact with anybody ever!

I know some like this though.[sm=rolleyes.gif]

Leaving was not an option as he was a Slave, {Slut Pig}
and he had no rights!!

I get asked all the time if I'm a Slave or a Submissive?
And I say is there a difference?

I get told "Yes there is."
A Slave has no rights, and a Submissive has rights.

If someone is a Slave in a Bdsm Relationship,
and somethings start to go wrong,
and it's not getting any better.

Slaves are not going to just listen to the Dom
over and over as they show the "Contract"
and say "See what You've signed, it is Binding."[:'(]

Some Doms are very Understanding, this I know.[:)]

It's the ones WHO Abuse the Sub/Slave Contract!
quote:


"What's Your story about His Glory?"


quote:

"That's right I said that!"


Sincerely, Ant[;)]



ownedgirlie -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 5:42:31 PM)

Um...i'm not sure i'm seeing whatever point you are trying to make. Can you clarify?

Only thing i really found alarming in the profile you saw is no contact with anybody ever, which goes against any human's basic needs.



mnottertail -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 5:45:22 PM)

I'm just bettin' he ain't gonna git him no girls with such enticements as that; right off.

Ron



slo18 -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 5:54:03 PM)

slave cant leave?! wtf? no contact with other ppl? that person doesnt fall into any idea of a Master that i have ever met or can even think off. sounds more like an abuser hideing under the guise of D/s. no matter what "contract" is signed the slave ALWAYS has the right to leave. and to sepearte a person from ther suport system is the often the first thing that an abuser does that way the abusee feels they have no one to turn to . that guys psyco.



justatoy2 -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 6:13:16 PM)

ok i know this is pet peeve of mine..but its dominant..not dominate when you are talking about someone..sorry but that just drives me crazy.



NickInSLC -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 6:44:44 PM)

As I read your subject line, it seems to me, that if you find somebody willing to give informed consent to abide by your will, you have the right to do what you will within the limits of said consent.

The first thing you gotta realize, is that 'slave contract' is nothing more than a fancy sheet of toilet paper should your 'slave' decide to leave. Slavery in this country is prohibited by the constitution. No amount of clever contract writing or fancy lawyering will defeat that. So, from the moment that your 'slave' makes known his or her desire to leave, you are guilty of kidnapping if you don't allow them to leave.

BDSM is a lot of fun and a wonderful fantasy world. A great deal of what we do is theatrics, illusion, and fantasy. That so much is not real doesn't detract from what we do, on the contrary, it makes what we do all the more fun and exciting. The sensations, the evergy, and the interaction are as real as anything.

But slavery as a reality? Please... Who in their right mind would consent to becoming a real slave? Real slaves are often beaten, maimed, or killed should their perfomance be deemed subpar. Real slaves are forced to do jobs too dangerous for people who have a choice. Real slaves are the first to go hungry when food is scarce. Real slaves are an expendable commodity in societies that allow them.

Submissives on the other hand, oft times live a very difficult lifestyle willingly when they find somebody who will appreciate and cherish them. The whole turn on of a submissive is that they do choose to submit to the will of their dominant. It's knowing that I can spank my girl for no reason than it gives me a stiffee and she'll let me do it, because she wants to give me that stiffee.

The dominant with true power need not resort to contracts, threats, or isolation to retain their submissives. Such are the methods of the powerless 'dominant'. The dominant with real power knows that he or she can get a submissive to endure and even enjoy what ever twisted crap comes to mind, because the submissive wants to stay. That's why a dominant with power craves a submissive with power of their own. Only a deficient dominant will settle for a doormat submissive who'll tollerate bullshit like being in isolation.

Okay, I'm done ranting. Hope I don't piss off too many people.



truesub4u -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 6:50:34 PM)

Slave/submissive... right to leave... no rights at all... i get slammed everytime I put my 2 cents in on the discussion... I'm gonna limit this to 1 cent this time....


It doesn't matter what anyone thinks... the one who enters into this type of situation... needs their head examined more than the one asking the said slave to sign such a contract.

Ok.. maybe 1 and 1/2 cents worth...



knees2you -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 6:51:06 PM)

Ok,
the Profile stated that once they had met,
then things would be done.

{opps} about the Dominant part.

What Dominant Assumes Slaves have Absoluty know Rights?


quote:

ok i know this is pet peeve of mine..but its dominant..not dominate when you are talking about someone..sorry but that just drives me crazy.

Thanks just browsing the Profile looking for Mistakes.


quote:


"Yes I said that!"

Sincerely, Ant[;)]



MtnGlory -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 7:29:15 PM)

quote:

What Dominant Assumes Slaves have Absoluty know Rights?


1) the fake ones
2) the truly non-consentual abusive ones
3) the dangerous ones
4) the new ones
5) all of the above

PICK ONE



SweetDommes -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 7:35:34 PM)

Just a thought - I wonder if the "Dominate" in question realizes that contact with others is required when going to get groceries ...



Arpig -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 7:38:52 PM)

If a dominant wants a sub/slave to have no rights, then any sub/slave who agrees to that arrangement has no rights until that slave/sub decides they have had enough and moves on.
In the final analysis, it is the slave/sub that gives the dominant the right to to anything.
I am a dominant, but I have no right to do anything or demand anything from anybody ever!
That's right no right to demand ever.
However, if somebody decides to be my slave/sub, then there will be certain pre-agreed upon areas where I can demand and expect obedience, but I have no RIGHT to said obedience. The moment the slave/sub decides the deal is off...it is off, and if I try to enforce my dominance in some way, then I risk criminal (assault/forceable confinement/sexual assault/etc.) charges.
A slave contract has zero validity once the slave decides to stop honouring it...it is a nice bit of window dressing, there are some who get a real kick out of making such things, and some who get a kick out of having to sign them, but in the end they are not in any way binding and are really only good (as was pointed out previously in this thread) for use as toilet paper the instant either party decides they no longer wish to abide by the terms of that contract.
This is not meant in any way to demean those who like and use contracts.



MistressOfGa -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 9:33:41 PM)

ORIGINAL: MtnGlory

quote:

What Dominant Assumes Slaves have Absoluty know Rights?


What Dominant assumes that slaves have no rights? Hopefully None. What Dominant is given the right to assume this? One who has the slaves consent to deny the slave any rights.



angelic -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 9:40:32 PM)

shit, there are some posts i wish i'd never read (i was called 'pig')... it is nothing but abuse with a BDSM cover.



ownedgirlie -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 9:49:07 PM)

That word may trigger some traumatic memories for you, as things in my past have done the same.
But that word is not always used abusively. It's similar to what i said in the "abusive" thread: A belt is only evil when in the wrong hands. The same applies to words.



angelic -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 9:53:01 PM)

owned... as the OP listed what was on the profile... it is abuse... nothing in that thread was kind ... it was all just abusive... every last word of it.

sorry, hit a BIG nerve



ownedgirlie -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 9:55:12 PM)

Okay...i didn't realize you were talking about your thoughts on the profile; i thought you were talking about the word in general.



MistressOfGa -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 10:00:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: angelic

owned... as the OP listed what was on the profile... it is abuse... nothing in that thread was kind ... it was all just abusive... every last word of it.

sorry, hit a BIG nerve


Angelic, this is your opinion of the profile, just because you think it is abuse, doesnt mean it is. What is abuse to one person is most pleasurable to another. I have known many submissives who enjoy being called "pigs" and that is one of the kinder words <g> Most of the ones I have met like to be called much worse lol That profile will attract the right person. It obviously isnt you, but someone who is craving those things will respond. There is someone out there for each of us :)



angelic -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 10:07:40 PM)

well, it is one and the same imo... the ones that call another 'pig'... think about that word for just a minute....


ugly

abusive

revolting

only one reason to call another that word imo

to degrade, humiliate and abuse... there is zero kindness in it... it means a person is less than nothing... that they are worth no more than the slop pigs are fed

i know some do get some acknowledgment from this... but as you can see from what the OP said the profile indicated... most that call another that word... truly FEEL that is what the other is worth...

slop

i will never kneel to One Who considers me slop ever again



angelic -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 10:11:55 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

quote:

ORIGINAL: angelic

owned... as the OP listed what was on the profile... it is abuse... nothing in that thread was kind ... it was all just abusive... every last word of it.

sorry, hit a BIG nerve


Angelic, this is your opinion of the profile, just because you think it is abuse, doesnt mean it is. What is abuse to one person is most pleasurable to another. I have known many submissives who enjoy being called "pigs" and that is one of the kinder words <g> Most of the ones I have met like to be called much worse lol That profile will attract the right person. It obviously isnt you, but someone who is craving those things will respond. There is someone out there for each of us :)



Ma'am with all due respect, anyone that responds to that profile will be abused... as the OP stated they will have NO contact with the outside... how can this be anything but abusive? This is NOT what this life is about... at least i hope to hell it isn't.



BitaTruble -> RE: Who or What gives You the Dominate the right! (3/5/2006 10:20:27 PM)

quote:

well, it is one and the same imo... the ones that call another 'pig'... think about that word for just a minute....


ugly

abusive

revolting


Or you could look at it as pigs are highly intelligent, highly trainable, make great pets and they don't sweat. The astrological sign for pigs denote honesty, tolerance and they make are good at making friends although can be a bit to trusting expecting everyone else to have these same attributes. Those born under the sign of the pig are said to be honorable, trusting, chivalrous and care deeply wanting to make peace rather than war and will often make concessions to bring that about.

It's all perspective.

Celeste



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