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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 6:24:11 AM   
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lovingpet, I have read the entire post and there is little I can offer that has not already been said.

Yes I have been through this but the feeling of impending doom passes, the questioning your own motives passes and the insecurities will pass.

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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 7:16:01 AM   
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lovingpet, my sub side had its own mini melt down just last week. Different circumstances and issues, most beyond Master's (or my) control (which was a large part of the problem, i can relinquish control only when i know He has it ... when neither of us have it, it's damned scary!). It all came to a head over ... of all things ... a fly buzzing round when i was trying to cook a very late dinner in the confines of our mobile home! The fly was the last straw and this camel hit the wall! Anger, tears, frustration ... it all boiled over. So i know where you're at even if mine was a mini version.

Where i'm blessed is in living 24/7 with a Master who, after initially being somewhat taken aback and a bit cross, was able to see this was a genuine melt down for me and was then able to hold His own responses in check. He has the happy knack of knowing when to just hold me ... and also when to leave me alone for just a little while to calm down before holding me! We talked it out and well before bedtime, we'd talked it out, things were resolved and we both just felt exhausted. From all you've said, you are also blessed with a patient and understanding Master who communicates well. So while a melt down is never a pleasant experience, it seems you have the right ally alongside to help you walk through it. And you will discover parts of yourself you never saw before in the process. When it all seems overwhelming, STOP, regroup, then start again, slowly. Keep an open mind, breathe deeply, talk LOTS!

All the very best
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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 7:32:16 AM   
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Believe me... I've had these. Lots of them (which I think may be a reflection of how many aspects of my life are lived on the fringes of what most people consider "normal" society). I am a hermit at heart, and the only thing I've found that works for me when I'm asking myself these questions is to put myself on autopilot, program myself for "middle of the road", and just keep plugging while my head sorts through everything in its own space.

I commissurate. Feel free to drop me a line if you need to bounce things off someone neutral and familiar with finding onself just 'half a degree off'.

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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 7:37:48 AM   
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I majorly screwed up recently. Being the stubborn, I am always right, yada yada yada, bonehead that I am, it took a little longer than it should have to realize it. Didn't help that the other party is my adult son and way too much like me for his own good. Also stubborn, always right, yada yada yada...

Once I realized I had screwed up, I cried (all by myself of course), apologised to him (even though he is still not speaking to me) and let it go.

With most of life's crap I've learned some pretty good coping skills. Usually I do a brief "check out" which for me, involves alone time and usually physical activity outdoors. That calms me down, takes me out of the imediacy of the OMG. Allows me to step back, look at things from an entirely different perspective, and calmly look for a solution. Basically I take the drama and emotional, it's all about me and how I am feeling, out of things. I put myself in a watching me and the situation, state of mind, just calmly observing. The answers are usually much easier than they felt when I was "OMG!"ing, and far less dramatic.

Basically, I am always trying to look at big picture instead of, it's all about me. It works for me.


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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 7:46:18 AM   
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Thanks Caring one and you will have cmail a little later on.

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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 7:47:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: oceanwynds1

lovingpet
just know i am here for you too.

hugs hun
oceanwynds


Always appreciated sweetie!

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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 7:49:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Acer49


quote:

ORIGINAL: lovingpet

Before I even start, please just let me say I am pretty upset and really having a rough go this evening. I may wind up being nasty or whiney or whatever, but I really just need to express this the best I can and get some insights from those that have been where I am or are sitting in the middle of such a storm. Before it even gets said, of course I will be talking to my partner about all this. It is going to be probably one of the most difficult, intimate, and bonding talks we have ever had and will be what will finally settle me and help me come back to peace.

Does anyone else ever get to the point where everything just feels like way too much? Maybe it's that your dominance or submission seems to shut doors. Perhaps you wake up one morning to see horrific marks you never intended to endure, or are the one facing what you have done to another human being in the cold light of day. Does it ever bother you how much control you have given up or scare you that you have been entrusted with so much of another person's life? It might be that the fetishes just seem so out there and sick. Perhaps you even begin to question your own sanity as you contemplate some massive upheaval of even some very core beliefs and ways of life. Maybe who you are or what you want just scare the everloving fucking shit out of you. I'm not going to ask if anyone else goes through those times, but I have to wonder at moments like this one tonight how to get through it.

This is where I am. Nearly ever last one of those senarios I listed apply to me, this time in my life, and how I feel. I feel like I am cracking under the weight of it all and I don't know what to do. I am panicked somehow. I am sickened by myself. I fear what the future holds. I feel like my whole world is about to come undone. Where to does a person go from this place? How do you reconsile with yourself? How am I supposed to look myself in the mirror again?

Please be kind. I don't have it in me deal with heartless replies. If you never have struggled with this or it doesn't resonate with you, please do us both a favor and don't bother answering. I really don't need anything else to feel worse about right now. Many here have come to be my friends from afar, many whom I respect greatly. I will appreciate the support on a night and a time like this. Thanks so much.

lovingpet


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There's been a lot of that too. Part of it is understanding how who I am can possibly fit with my own deeply held beliefs and making sure my actions are what they should be.

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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 7:50:44 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: allthatjaz

lovingpet, I have read the entire post and there is little I can offer that has not already been said.

Yes I have been through this but the feeling of impending doom passes, the questioning your own motives passes and the insecurities will pass.

Big hugs to you

Maria



I think that has been one of the biggest things for me to keep in mind. There is another side after all this. Thanks Maria! *hugs*

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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 7:54:45 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MaamJay

lovingpet, my sub side had its own mini melt down just last week. Different circumstances and issues, most beyond Master's (or my) control (which was a large part of the problem, i can relinquish control only when i know He has it ... when neither of us have it, it's damned scary!). It all came to a head over ... of all things ... a fly buzzing round when i was trying to cook a very late dinner in the confines of our mobile home! The fly was the last straw and this camel hit the wall! Anger, tears, frustration ... it all boiled over. So i know where you're at even if mine was a mini version.

Where i'm blessed is in living 24/7 with a Master who, after initially being somewhat taken aback and a bit cross, was able to see this was a genuine melt down for me and was then able to hold His own responses in check. He has the happy knack of knowing when to just hold me ... and also when to leave me alone for just a little while to calm down before holding me! We talked it out and well before bedtime, we'd talked it out, things were resolved and we both just felt exhausted. From all you've said, you are also blessed with a patient and understanding Master who communicates well. So while a melt down is never a pleasant experience, it seems you have the right ally alongside to help you walk through it. And you will discover parts of yourself you never saw before in the process. When it all seems overwhelming, STOP, regroup, then start again, slowly. Keep an open mind, breathe deeply, talk LOTS!

All the very best
violet[A] aka Maam Jay


Yup! It was some dumb thing that finally pushed me over too. You just have to sit back and laugh at the randomness sometimes. Not to say what is going on isn't legitimate or real, but what finally bring it all flooding out is so ridiculously inconsequential. My partner and I did talk very deeply and he was able to at least move me out of that situation where I was thoroughly unable to get a handle on my emotions to being able to discuss calmly and even laugh just a little. Those of us with good partners really need to be thankful. I know I am.

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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 8:01:17 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

Believe me... I've had these. Lots of them (which I think may be a reflection of how many aspects of my life are lived on the fringes of what most people consider "normal" society). I am a hermit at heart, and the only thing I've found that works for me when I'm asking myself these questions is to put myself on autopilot, program myself for "middle of the road", and just keep plugging while my head sorts through everything in its own space.

I commissurate. Feel free to drop me a line if you need to bounce things off someone neutral and familiar with finding onself just 'half a degree off'.

Dame Calla



I feel waaaaay more than half a degree off these days. LOL

I guess I could be classified as one of those hermit types too, though there are tiny handful of people and things that matter to me very much and I don't know what I'm supposed to do with them at this point. It isn't as though people aren't well aware of that slightly off'ness in me, but right now it is view as cute, humorous, essentric maybe, but not dangerous. Needless to say, there is a great deal that I have protected them from about me, but circumstances being what they are, I may not be able to do so much longer.

I appreciate your insights lovely Queen of Chaos.

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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 8:04:05 AM   
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I have gone through many things this past year. I actually look back and see that I am less submissive now than I was 2 years ago and less trusting. I am unable to be in a place of sharing my life with someone and I dont have alot of trust for most members of the opposite sex ; kinky or vanilla. I know this is not exactly what you are going through. But when I posted about it what I got from others posts was to just be. Be who I am, feel what Im feeling, trust or dont trust till Im ready to go again. Right now I have other focuses like trying to earn a living, a new job, being a better mom. a dying mother and my own health(including my mental health) to worry about. All i can do is live and operate from this moment and try to interpret and do things that are in my best interest right now. Kink was messing with my mental health due to my depression and perimenopausal PMS from hell. I put my mental health before my kink, so currently I am not engageing seriously or casually. But I am more mentally stable. I think stability and balance should always come first. Its best for you and best for those around you. Be well. You will get through this.

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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 8:06:49 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I majorly screwed up recently. Being the stubborn, I am always right, yada yada yada, bonehead that I am, it took a little longer than it should have to realize it. Didn't help that the other party is my adult son and way too much like me for his own good. Also stubborn, always right, yada yada yada...

Once I realized I had screwed up, I cried (all by myself of course), apologised to him (even though he is still not speaking to me) and let it go.

With most of life's crap I've learned some pretty good coping skills. Usually I do a brief "check out" which for me, involves alone time and usually physical activity outdoors. That calms me down, takes me out of the imediacy of the OMG. Allows me to step back, look at things from an entirely different perspective, and calmly look for a solution. Basically I take the drama and emotional, it's all about me and how I am feeling, out of things. I put myself in a watching me and the situation, state of mind, just calmly observing. The answers are usually much easier than they felt when I was "OMG!"ing, and far less dramatic.

Basically, I am always trying to look at big picture instead of, it's all about me. It works for me.



I am a bit more objective this morning, though it comes more in waves than really being able to keep to that calm, cool headed place and work this thing through. I am much improved over what I was last night. It will take time for the emotional part to pass and let me get at these things in a more useful manner. I tend to be one who has to follow my emotions to their absolute limits and then I can step away and deal. My partner has had a huge role in helping come down off the walls and get a more realistic view. Sleep helped too. Thank you for reminding me to pull myself together and be objective already!

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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 8:12:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

I have gone through many things this past year. I actually look back and see that I am less submissive now than I was 2 years ago and less trusting. I am unable to be in a place of sharing my life with someone and I dont have alot of trust for most members of the opposite sex ; kinky or vanilla. I know this is not exactly what you are going through. But when I posted about it what I got from others posts was to just be. Be who I am, feel what Im feeling, trust or dont trust till Im ready to go again. Right now I have other focuses like trying to earn a living, a new job, being a better mom. a dying mother and my own health(including my mental health) to worry about. All i can do is live and operate from this moment and try to interpret and do things that are in my best interest right now. Kink was messing with my mental health due to my depression and perimenopausal PMS from hell. I put my mental health before my kink, so currently I am not engageing seriously or casually. But I am more mentally stable. I think stability and balance should always come first. Its best for you and best for those around you. Be well. You will get through this.


Thank you for this. I know what we are going through is different, but one thing still remains the same. When going through big things like this, it is vital to take care of myself. My partner caught me in that one big time last night. "Did you eat little one?"

"I had lunch"
"What about breakfast or dinner?"
"No. I'm sorry"
"When did you go to bed last night?"
"2 am."
When did you get up?"
"6:30 am."
"Do you think those things have anything to do with how you are feeling now?"
"I know."
"You will learn to take care of what is mine better. Understood?"
"Yes Sir."

Damn him! LOL

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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 8:43:26 AM   
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*laughs* Doesn't it just bite when the master actually is right?

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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 8:58:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: leadership527

*laughs* Doesn't it just bite when the master actually is right?


That would be awesome. But not every one I have entrusted myself too was worth that trust. Those that are, are worth more than diamonds.


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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 9:09:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: leadership527

*laughs* Doesn't it just bite when the master actually is right?


Uh.... yeah it does!

Can't the man ever be wrong? Just once?

Of course he got into many other aspects of this too, but darn it, he's supposed to be asleep at the switch on this kinda stuff! LOL Now I'm back on my health journal.

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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 9:10:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19


quote:

ORIGINAL: leadership527

*laughs* Doesn't it just bite when the master actually is right?


That would be awesome. But not every one I have entrusted myself too was worth that trust. Those that are, are worth more than diamonds.



I'd say most aren't remotely worthy, but the good ones are absolutely more precious than anything. I might fuss, but I know what a dear man I've got.

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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 9:26:41 AM   
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One moment that sticks out to me that is similar to this is when I woke up one morning after having superglued my (at the time) submissive's cock to his stomach. It was all consentual of course, he loved the humiliation aspect of it etc. and so forth. I looked at him and just....lost it. Fell apart. All I could think was "What the F am I doing??? Who DOES this stuff to another human being???" The stripes on his legs and buttocks were red and bruised, he couldn't sit well and going to the bathroom was...interesting for him to say the least. I was horrified.


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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 9:53:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TwistedHeart74

One moment that sticks out to me that is similar to this is when I woke up one morning after having superglued my (at the time) submissive's cock to his stomach. It was all consentual of course, he loved the humiliation aspect of it etc. and so forth. I looked at him and just....lost it. Fell apart. All I could think was "What the F am I doing??? Who DOES this stuff to another human being???" The stripes on his legs and buttocks were red and bruised, he couldn't sit well and going to the bathroom was...interesting for him to say the least. I was horrified.



Sorry but I really had to laugh at this but I know exactly what you mean because I have had a similar incident.
Mine was when I was pro Domming and this regular medical masochist asked me if I would suture his cock and balls inside him and make him look like a woman. At the time I was eager to do it and the end result was one happy customer and me on a high but after he left I started to question my sanity. What made it worse was going home to my children and the sudden realization that they didn't have a normal mum. I swore that day that I would play things down but that lasted about a week!!


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RE: When It Just Gets Too Much - 10/22/2009 10:15:06 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I majorly screwed up recently. Being the stubborn, I am always right, yada yada yada, bonehead that I am, it took a little longer than it should have to realize it. Didn't help that the other party is my adult son and way too much like me for his own good. Also stubborn, always right, yada yada yada...

Once I realized I had screwed up, I cried (all by myself of course), apologised to him (even though he is still not speaking to me) and let it go.


i'll admit to smiling as i read your words Ma'am. probably because i've done the same myself recently. thoughts crop up in my pretty little head and i roll with them. unfortunately the outcome isn't always what we'd like. that's a delicate way of saying the screw up sucketh badly. i put myself on time out and withdrew from everyone, stepping back from my slavery to a position that felt comfortable that allowed objectivity to come in. it was necessary to regain my composure and much needed insight.

i haven't apologized. i don't know if that is possible at this point. but i think part of growth is being able to say you were wrong and to be sincere when doing so and willing to learn from your mistakes. i find it admirable that you were able to do that just now. it is one of the most important things i look for in a prospective Owner. because we all have our bloops and blunders sometime.

letting go is an important part of healing. it frees me from the clutches of negativity, pain, and guilt. things happen and there are instances when we would undo them if it were humanely possible to do so. sometimes it isn't how we respond to our mistakes, but what we do afterward that speaks loudest.

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