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what makes a Master - 10/22/2009 8:32:05 PM   
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What makes a Master?  What makes a submissive?  A Master Doms...Tops...gives orders..right?   yeah, right? What makes you better then the submissive's you Top?    I will answer that question for you...."Nothing"
You only have a role to play and your role is not all that.....you/we are as only as powerful as we connect with. So..Master's/Doms/Tops?  what makes you ......ahem..a Master?    Listen all...this will be good.
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RE: what makes a Master - 10/22/2009 8:46:49 PM   
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.....wow....

I don't know about others but my Master has never made me feel He is better than me. Along with the power exchange and the kinky sex and the floggings and the dirty talk, He always treats me like a prized and valued possession.

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RE: what makes a Master - 10/22/2009 9:39:45 PM   
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So..Master's/Doms/Tops? what makes you ......ahem..a Master?


Ahem.... cholesterol... ahem... definitely

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RE: what makes a Master - 10/22/2009 9:49:36 PM   
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I have never once on these boards, in public, or in private ever said that I was better than My boy.  If anything, there have been a number of occasions that I have related the strengths that he has that are greater than Mine.

As to what makes Me a Master (I happen to prefer Mistress) I have a few answers for you.

First and foremost, I've led successful M/s dynamics.  I collared My first slave in 1999.  My current boy has been in My collar for almost two years now.  I have run My poly household to the best of My ability.

I've also trained and mentored others.  I've done public demos in four states and private instruction in those and a few more.  Most notably was 1763 Atlanta, where I've been the featured player on a few occasions.  Some of the reviews of which can be found in the positive experiences forum.

I was elected Chairman of the Board in My last kink community and served that community until earlier this year.  During that time, My focus was on education within the BDSM community.  In that period, we secured a number of presenters from all over the region and held a number of successful events.  The membership grew and that is a thriving kink community today.

I've participated in various leather as well as charity events within the kink community.  I've worked My butt off learning about leather since I first fell in love with it.  Thankfully, I've had excellent teachers and through their instruction and My practice, I happen to think I'm a pretty good top.

Last year, I was presented My Cap by a man with 30 years in this lifestyle.  The ceremony was held in that same kink community with My husband at My side and My boy at My feet.

In your view, OP, I may not be a Master.  I'm quite ok with that.  When My boy kneels in front of Me and looks up, he sure as hell sees one.






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RE: what makes a Master - 10/22/2009 9:56:23 PM   
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To the OP:
Somebody pee in your wheaties?


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RE: what makes a Master - 10/22/2009 10:02:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: IBused

What makes a Master?  What makes a submissive?  A Master Doms...Tops...gives orders..right?   yeah, right? What makes you better then the submissive's you Top?    I will answer that question for you...."Nothing"
You only have a role to play and your role is not all that.....you/we are as only as powerful as we connect with. So..Master's/Doms/Tops?  what makes you ......ahem..a Master?    Listen all...this will be good.


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RE: what makes a Master - 10/22/2009 10:06:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

To the OP:
Somebody pee in your wheaties?



That was my first thought too!

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RE: what makes a Master - 10/22/2009 10:15:44 PM   
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Crikey! is that where I pissed? 

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RE: what makes a Master - 10/22/2009 10:22:22 PM   
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quote:

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Crikey! is that where I pissed? 


I thought bears peed in the woods?

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RE: what makes a Master - 10/22/2009 10:35:08 PM   
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Aye usually they do and shit there too soooooooooo whose lunch box did I shit in I am wondering.....Strewth.  

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RE: what makes a Master - 10/22/2009 10:39:03 PM   
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"Heeey BooBoo...where is that picnic basket I left on that rock???"

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RE: what makes a Master - 10/22/2009 10:52:52 PM   
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Better?  The day that I consider myself "better" than any human, is the day I want my breathing rights revoked.  When did I ever say I was better than my pet?  I don't recall ever saying that, or ever even thinking that.  Normally I think how damned lucky I am to have a pet as wonderful as him. 

As for you, OP, whatever crawled up your ass, you should take care of it, and soon.  To come out here and blatantly insult so many people you've never met or talked with or even read their posts, for no reason that I or anyone else can discern is just a tad offputting.

As for what power I have, that's easy.  Were you my pet and were you to take that attitude with me, I have the power to toss you out of my house and wish you a healthy walk all the way back home, which is precisely what I would do. 

I also have the power to up-lift and support my pet.  I have the power to fill a need in his life that others either can't or don't understand.  Just as he has the power to do precisely the same thing for me.

Now, I don't know who the hell pissed you off so much, or how, but I suggest that you take it up with them, instead of being a smarmy little lump of flesh and attacking everyone else except for the one that caused the issue.  Projected aggression is not a pretty thing, especially when it's not even wearing trousers.


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RE: what makes a Master - 10/22/2009 11:44:53 PM   
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If you feel so insecure about your status as a submissive, why bother being one in the first place?

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RE: what makes a Master - 10/23/2009 1:18:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: IBused

What makes a Master?  What makes a submissive?  A Master Doms...Tops...gives orders..right?   yeah, right? What makes you better then the submissive's you Top?    I will answer that question for you...."Nothing"
You only have a role to play and your role is not all that.....you/we are as only as powerful as we connect with. So..Master's/Doms/Tops?  what makes you ......ahem..a Master?    Listen all...this will be good.


it is clear you're frustrated, so i'm going to suggest that you take the term outside of the lifestyle context and view it from its original definition instead. considering it from the viewpoint of one with a skill, you'd begin as an apprentice and work alongside a master, learning from him and mirroring his technique until aptitude had been gained. with these tools in hand the tradesman worked tirelessly over the years honing his skills and developing his signature style. it was a long process and real mastery did not occur overnight. those that were afforded the title had truly earned it through diligence and commitment to their craft.

if you apply this back to one who would appropriately wear this title, i would consider this as someone who has invested the same time and energy in themselves. in the course of doing so they've gained leadership skills, had positions of authority, become well versed in human dynamics, have some understanding of psychology, the human body, leather history and culture, and the application of pain utilizing various techniques. in addition, i would expect that he communicates well, is an excellent listener, adept at behavioral conditioning, in control of his temperament, dependable, trustworthy, has integrity, displays confidence in his decision making, is acutely aware of the exchange he seeks and is capable of creating it, and most importantly has a desire to accept the responsibilities of guiding and caring for another human being.

i do not ascribe to the belief that the master is better, i see his role as complimentary to my own as his slave. however, there is another concept that i'll discuss and that is the master as perfection personified. i will be honest, while i can grasp it on a transcendental level and recognize that it is possible, it is difficult for me to say whether many aspire to such or ever reach that place. i do believe this is how some submissives and slaves view their master. however, to do so would require me to have someone that embodies the characteristics i've described.

i can understand how someone can embrace these beliefs when they're in the proper relationship with a partner wholly committed to their betterment. those that reach this point often connect on four levels - mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual. his impact is not by chance, it is intentionally done. it is my belief that this is the personification of the master and slave in its actualized state. the demeanor of those moving in this direction is difficult to miss. however, i don't think it is possible to reach this point without internal enslavement taking root. which cannot occur without the master's touch.

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RE: what makes a Master - 10/23/2009 3:08:25 AM   
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Nothing really makes you different than you esentially are. Thus, as Plato quoted Socrates, "first know thyself." Then learn how to accept yourself as you are.

Rather than achieving the perfect label, work on becoming the perfect you.

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RE: what makes a Master - 10/23/2009 3:16:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: IBused

What makes a Master?  What makes a submissive?  A Master Doms...Tops...gives orders..right?   yeah, right? What makes you better then the submissive's you Top? I will answer that question for you...."Nothing"
You only have a role to play and your role is not all that.....you/we are as only as powerful as we connect with. So..Master's/Doms/Tops?  what makes you ......ahem..a Master?    Listen all...this will be good.
wow.....you are 48 years old. I thought for sure this was written by an 18 year old.

Rather then ask "What makes you better then the submissive's you Top?" perhaps you need to be doing a bit of soul searching to try and find out what is making you feel you are less than a Master/Dom.

And for heavens sakes, a nearly 50 yr old male should know better than to whine.


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RE: what makes a Master - 10/23/2009 3:27:16 AM   
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I know!  Especially around this place.  That's like tossing a roast chicken into a gator pond.

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RE: what makes a Master - 10/23/2009 4:03:44 AM   
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I don't know about anyone else's doms, but The Man is better than I am at decision making. He thinks farther out. If you 've ever played chess, you know that if you can think a dozen possible moves ahead you have a better chance of winning then if you only think two moves ahead. So it is here, he thinks further out than I do. And for a lot of things, this matters. And that's why he gets to make the hard decisions, because his track record is better.

We can compare this to an office, ten salesmen but only one gets the promotion to regional manager. The person with the best track record. Does this make him better as a person? No, doesn't say anything about that. All it says is that he gets to tell his former coworkers what to do from now on because he's better at doing that.

Now if you are saying he is a person of more value than I am, then no. We are of equal value in the relationship and to the relationship.

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RE: what makes a Master - 10/23/2009 4:10:49 AM   
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quote:

D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F.!!!


Somehow Master IronBear, this girl thinks she would love to know what this means! She thinks she can guess at G.A.F. and maybe the D.I. but she's stumped on the rest. She does always enjoy your posts- from the serious to the sardonic.

Well wishes,
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RE: what makes a Master - 10/23/2009 4:54:14 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AnnaOfAramis

quote:

D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F.!!!


Somehow Master IronBear, this girl thinks she would love to know what this means! She thinks she can guess at G.A.F. and maybe the D.I. but she's stumped on the rest. She does always enjoy your posts- from the serious to the sardonic.

Well wishes,
anna


i am not Master IronBear, obviously, but an old friend of mine said this all the time "Does It Look Like I Give A Fuck"

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