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RE: Titles - 10/23/2009 9:35:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I am 47 and a half and unless someone belongs to me.......I am totally fine with them using LeeAnn. It is my name and I rather like it. I do not find it disrespectful for someone to use it. If they are owned by me (if and when that ever happens again) it will be different.


nahh you literally ooze Ma'am for some reason.

porcelaine




LOL, 47 and a half, I quit using the and a half when I hit the age of majority (which was 18 in my day) because it was superflouous.

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RE: Titles - 10/23/2009 9:57:49 AM   
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Well god forbid I lie about my age yanno!!!

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RE: Titles - 10/23/2009 9:58:54 AM   
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LOL, call it 48.............


*runs like a motherfucker from the hell of the fury of a woman scorned*

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RE: Titles - 10/23/2009 10:01:28 AM   
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I keep reading the name of this thread as Titties. I need glasses.

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RE: Titles - 10/23/2009 10:04:57 AM   
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The day before I turned 50, I went to the doctor and said I was 49.  It ain't official until it's official.

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RE: Titles - 10/23/2009 10:11:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

LOL, call it 48.............


*runs like a motherfucker from the hell of the fury of a woman scorned*


It's all good Ron. Age and the increasing numbers, has never even phased me.


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RE: Titles - 10/23/2009 10:12:00 AM   
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I have had the title of Maam and Sir (many students just use Sir in class, regardless of gender) ever since I was 20 and a karate teacher. When it comes to submissives, I couldnt really care less what they choose to call me. As it was said before, my dominance is not reliant upon my title. I expect polite conversation and if that happens to have responses to answers of Yes Maam thenI expect to hear it. Otherise unless I am specifically putting someone in their place, a title is not my interest. I have actually had more submissives ask permission to use one becasue it made THEM more comfortable than anything else.

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RE: Titles - 10/23/2009 1:26:17 PM   
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While dating ppl in the lifestyle I have found there to be a difference between ppl my age (28) or younger and ppl 45 and up, in the use of titles. The dominants I dated around my age, when I asked what they wanted me to call them did not have a preference of sir or ma'am, just a first name. But the dominant's I have been with in the 45 yrs or old category wanted the title sir or ma'am to be used.



My owner is late thirties and I call him by his name.  This is a good thing for me as I abhor titles.  I have seen other subs call him Sir, which he doesn't correct.  But he has never told me to call him anything other than his name.  We both know what he is to me, we do not need titles to remind us.

Previous to my owner I did date a few doms in their late twenties/early thirties and found that, unlike your experiences, they all wished to be called Sir or Master.

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RE: Titles - 10/23/2009 6:09:04 PM   
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Personally, I prefer names rather than titles. To me, names are more intimate. If my dominant required it, I would use whatever title she wants. However, it would make me feel neither more nor less submissive to her. Likewise, if she chooses to call me "slave", I accept her choice, but it wouldn't make me feel any more submissive at all. In fact, I'd probably respond better to my name.

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Titles acknowledge the hierarchy within the relationship. 

Yes, but so would uniforms with insignia for rank, but they're not necessary.

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RE: Titles - 10/23/2009 6:31:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

Personally, I prefer names rather than titles. To me, names are more intimate. If my dominant required it, I would use whatever title she wants. However, it would make me feel neither more nor less submissive to her. Likewise, if she chooses to call me "slave", I accept her choice, but it wouldn't make me feel any more submissive at all. In fact, I'd probably respond better to my name.

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Titles acknowledge the hierarchy within the relationship. 

Yes, but so would uniforms with insignia for rank, but they're not necessary.


Not necessary for you perhaps but for some situations and occasions they are necessary. In many cases a title like a badge imparts a wealth more information that is reasonable to expect stated when referring to someone. For example, the nomnecladure of "Master" tends to indicate a M/s dynamic although the use of Master has weakened this somewhat. However, to continue; "Master of Bruin Cottage" is a very specific title and states categorically, that the wearer of that title is the head of Bruin Cottage (It also give an indication that Bruin Cottage may be kink and/or involved in some alternative dynamic), Similarly, in Lodge, the Title of Lodge Master or Master of the Lodge states clearly who is the current leader of that branch. Grand Master states who is the Master of the Lodge Organization with all branches answering to him. Other similar titles such as Hierophant, Impirator etc shiow the level of training, practical work undertaken and duties of persons holding that initiation degree. I am aware all this is old fashion and not of interest to many of the younger generations except those who seek such paths, but it still holds that in many occasions it mat well be more than rude to ignore titles and use names. Were I to address someone by their given name it shows we have a friendly and even to some degree an intimate relationship where as it is more than likely we do not. On social occasions I choose to accept being address as others see fit providing good manners apply.


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RE: Titles - 10/23/2009 7:05:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

I keep reading the name of this thread as Titties.



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RE: Titles - 10/23/2009 7:44:40 PM   
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I am 62, my lady is in her 40s.  Mostly I address her as "babe."  Is that an honorific?

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RE: Titles - 10/23/2009 10:03:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: IronBear

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

Personally, I prefer names rather than titles. To me, names are more intimate. If my dominant required it, I would use whatever title she wants. However, it would make me feel neither more nor less submissive to her. Likewise, if she chooses to call me "slave", I accept her choice, but it wouldn't make me feel any more submissive at all. In fact, I'd probably respond better to my name.

quote:

Titles acknowledge the hierarchy within the relationship. 

Yes, but so would uniforms with insignia for rank, but they're not necessary.


Not necessary for you perhaps but for some situations and occasions they are necessary. In many cases a title like a badge imparts a wealth more information that is reasonable to expect stated when referring to someone. For example, the nomnecladure of "Master" tends to indicate a M/s dynamic although the use of Master has weakened this somewhat. However, to continue; "Master of Bruin Cottage" is a very specific title and states categorically, that the wearer of that title is the head of Bruin Cottage (It also give an indication that Bruin Cottage may be kink and/or involved in some alternative dynamic), Similarly, in Lodge, the Title of Lodge Master or Master of the Lodge states clearly who is the current leader of that branch. Grand Master states who is the Master of the Lodge Organization with all branches answering to him. Other similar titles such as Hierophant, Impirator etc shiow the level of training, practical work undertaken and duties of persons holding that initiation degree. I am aware all this is old fashion and not of interest to many of the younger generations except those who seek such paths, but it still holds that in many occasions it mat well be more than rude to ignore titles and use names. Were I to address someone by their given name it shows we have a friendly and even to some degree an intimate relationship where as it is more than likely we do not. On social occasions I choose to accept being address as others see fit providing good manners apply.



Well, since the OP was about individual relationships (quote: "dating ppl in the lifestyl"), and not about some "Cottage", "Lodge", or other grand BDSM organization, I stand by my comment. The titles are fine if you really like them, but they're not necessary.

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RE: Titles - 10/23/2009 10:37:03 PM   
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My you do have a burr up your arse don't you perhaps the OP and you should get together and start a subby malcontent group. Bruin Cottage is my home lad, insult that and you insult me personally. I specifically stated I was using examples of hierarchy outside BDSM. Obviously you know fuck all about lodges so FYI, some lodges are the places where political and business power brokers are members of and thus such a Lodge wields far more raw power than most people are even aware. Nothing to do with BDSM I grant you that other than some very experienced BDSMers from several nations are members of lodges which is where I have met them. Your comment I originally responded to is quite obviously one of a person why neither understands nor wants to understand some of the more traditional ways some things get done and as such typically of the modern era, dismisses and sneers at such things. You go your way I stay with mine and if you are adult enough, we can amicably agree to disagree if not then we are done . 

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RE: Titles - 10/24/2009 8:58:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: IronBear

My you do have a burr up your arse don't you perhaps the OP and you should get together and start a subby malcontent group. Bruin Cottage is my home lad, insult that and you insult me personally. I specifically stated I was using examples of hierarchy outside BDSM. Obviously you know fuck all about lodges so FYI, some lodges are the places where political and business power brokers are members of and thus such a Lodge wields far more raw power than most people are even aware. Nothing to do with BDSM I grant you that other than some very experienced BDSMers from several nations are members of lodges which is where I have met them. Your comment I originally responded to is quite obviously one of a person why neither understands nor wants to understand some of the more traditional ways some things get done and as such typically of the modern era, dismisses and sneers at such things. You go your way I stay with mine and if you are adult enough, we can amicably agree to disagree if not then we are done . 


??? No burr up my arse, but obviously you've got a chip on your shoulder.

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RE: Titles - 10/24/2009 12:24:57 PM   
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My guess is that he has earned his chip....

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub


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ORIGINAL: IronBear

My you do have a burr up your arse don't you perhaps the OP and you should get together and start a subby malcontent group. Bruin Cottage is my home lad, insult that and you insult me personally. I specifically stated I was using examples of hierarchy outside BDSM. Obviously you know fuck all about lodges so FYI, some lodges are the places where political and business power brokers are members of and thus such a Lodge wields far more raw power than most people are even aware. Nothing to do with BDSM I grant you that other than some very experienced BDSMers from several nations are members of lodges which is where I have met them. Your comment I originally responded to is quite obviously one of a person why neither understands nor wants to understand some of the more traditional ways some things get done and as such typically of the modern era, dismisses and sneers at such things. You go your way I stay with mine and if you are adult enough, we can amicably agree to disagree if not then we are done . 


??? No burr up my arse, but obviously you've got a chip on your shoulder.



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RE: Titles - 10/24/2009 12:52:26 PM   
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I'll just state what I've stated in similar thread to this one...

When I was a supervisor at the beef plant, I was called Sir or Mr. _______________.
When I was in the service, I was called by whatever rank I was...from Private up to my final rank of Sergeant.
When I graduated from chiropractic college, I had earned the privilege of being called Doctor.  Through 26 years of treating people, I believe I've shown that I was worth the privilege of being called by that honorific.
In a high protocol setting, I prefer to be called Sir.  Most submissives I know either address me by name or have asked to do so.  Most of them respect me enough that if we are discussing something serious, they address me as Sir.  When a submissive is mine, I've been called Master, My Sir, My Owner, honey, dear, love, by my first name...it was dependant on the situation and they've learned early on when it is appropriate to address me by whatever comes out of their mouth.  I do give them one hint...probably isn't a good idea to call me an endearing title such as honey or dear or babykins when I am in the middle of correcting them.

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RE: Titles - 10/24/2009 5:35:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: IronBear

My you do have a burr up your arse don't you perhaps the OP and you should get together and start a subby malcontent group. Bruin Cottage is my home lad, insult that and you insult me personally. I specifically stated I was using examples of hierarchy outside BDSM. Obviously you know fuck all about lodges so FYI, some lodges are the places where political and business power brokers are members of and thus such a Lodge wields far more raw power than most people are even aware. Nothing to do with BDSM I grant you that other than some very experienced BDSMers from several nations are members of lodges which is where I have met them. Your comment I originally responded to is quite obviously one of a person why neither understands nor wants to understand some of the more traditional ways some things get done and as such typically of the modern era, dismisses and sneers at such things. You go your way I stay with mine and if you are adult enough, we can amicably agree to disagree if not then we are done . 


Chill, dude. I didn't insult any of your groups. All I did was point out that the OP was referring to a simple, one-on-one relationship, not some organization with large numbers of people, an org chart, hierarchies, etc. Such groups are a completely different context that that of the OP.

You jumped to conclusions, got upset, and made a lot of bogus assumptions about me in your chippy response. Obviously you know a hell of a lot less about me than I know about lodges.

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RE: Titles - 10/24/2009 6:51:24 PM   
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My guess is that he has earned his chip....


A chip on the shoulder is a psychological affliction, not a badge of honor.

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RE: Titles - 10/24/2009 7:22:09 PM   
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My aunt said to me yesterday, "There are a lot of white pickup trucks in Nashville." (swear she said it)... Now everywhere I go, I notice gobs of white pick up trucks.  Are there more now than there were before?  Nope.  I am just noticing them now.



:/

Now I'm seeing white pickup trucks wherever I go in my city. Thanks a lot for sharing that!



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