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Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 1:04:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid announced Monday that he intends to move forward with a health care bill including a public insurance option allowing states to opt out.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/26/breaking-reid-backs-health-care-public-option/


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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 1:18:52 PM   
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid announced Monday that he intends to move forward with a health care bill including a public insurance option allowing states to opt out.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/26/breaking-reid-backs-health-care-public-option/



more smoke and mirrors. If the Dems opposed to a public option have half a brain (which is questionable, since they are Dems to start with) they'll see through it.

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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 1:49:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Smoke and mirrors how? in what direction? explain for me carefully seeing as I only have half a brain
lovely insults by the way, if only they had some sort of impact. How nice to see you are back to your old self again wilbur


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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 2:24:59 PM   
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more smoke and mirrors. If the Dems opposed to a public option have half a brain (which is questionable, since they are Dems to start with) they'll see through it.


When you start posting like that, your whole point is lost. Why bother?


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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 2:29:47 PM   
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more smoke and mirrors. If the Dems opposed to a public option have half a brain (which is questionable, since they are Dems to start with) they'll see through it.


When you start posting like that, your whole point is lost. Why bother?

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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 2:30:11 PM   
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Smoke and mirrors how? in what direction? explain for me carefully seeing as I only have half a brain
lovely insults by the way, if only they had some sort of impact. How nice to see you are back to your old self again wilbur



The premiums under the public option will be subsidized by tax revenues. What state is going to opt out and put its constituents at a disadvantage relative to the rest of the country on premiums while their tax dollars subsidize other states?

Insults? Just in the grand tradition of Churchill.

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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 2:40:57 PM   
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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 2:44:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Which seems to lead to an actual move toward healthcare reform. No one wants their state to pay into something they won't get anything out of. Sooo...bring in public option because not doing so just gives insurance companies a whole lot of money rather than creating actual competition.

Did anybody else see that the anti-trust exception for insurance companies may be removed?


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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 3:06:20 PM   
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Smoke and mirrors how? in what direction? explain for me carefully seeing as I only have half a brain
lovely insults by the way, if only they had some sort of impact. How nice to see you are back to your old self again wilbur



The premiums under the public option will be subsidized by tax revenues. What state is going to opt out and put its constituents at a disadvantage relative to the rest of the country on premiums while their tax dollars subsidize other states?

Insults? Just in the grand tradition of Churchill.
In other words this is proposed legislation which just might benifit the citizens of this great Country.....imagine that!
A public option.....and to think all it took was representatives with half a brain to come up with this.....sheesh,I wonder what they could do with a full deck?
typo....ooops,my bad.

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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 3:07:27 PM   
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Which seems to lead to an actual move toward healthcare reform. No one wants their state to pay into something they won't get anything out of. Sooo...bring in public option because not doing so just gives insurance companies a whole lot of money rather than creating actual competition.

Did anybody else see that the anti-trust exception for insurance companies may be removed?



No, its a move toward government control, which is not reform, its a power grab.

There is already a thread on the Chicago thug tactics of the Administrtation wrt to the anti-trust exemption, yes.

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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 3:42:05 PM   
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and so it begins?

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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 4:08:54 PM   
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid announced Monday that he intends to move forward with a health care bill including a public insurance option allowing states to opt out.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/26/breaking-reid-backs-health-care-public-option/



This nicely summarizes my feelings on this, that the opt out is a sell out:

Under the Schumer/Carper plan, a vigorous public option would be included in the final bill, but individual states themselves would have an "option:" to "opt out" of the federal scheme. But, in a situation when the "public option" already is a compromise -- we've already backed down from single-payer to get to the "public option" level -- this is a further compromise that is both unwise and unnecessary.


("Opt-out" compromise: a bad idea for Florida)

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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 5:12:04 PM   
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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 5:23:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Then we are going to be at the mercy of each state legislature to decide whether to opt out.  And guess where those insurance company lobbying dollars are going to start flowing?

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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 5:43:46 PM   
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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 5:50:13 PM   
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The same place as George Soros' money?

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Then we are going to be at the mercy of each state legislature to decide whether to opt out.  And guess where those insurance company lobbying dollars are going to start flowing?



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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 6:01:54 PM   
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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 6:03:29 PM   
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The same place as George Soros' money?

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Then we are going to be at the mercy of each state legislature to decide whether to opt out.  And guess where those insurance company lobbying dollars are going to start flowing?




Oh, do please explain.

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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 6:44:45 PM   
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Why depend on me to enlighten you about George Soros and his single handed manipulation of American political causes? Especially when we both know you would never be happy with any of the links I may present anyway.

Google him yourself, and pay special attention to the causes he funnels his billions into.


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Oh, do please explain.



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RE: Public Option comes back to life? - 10/26/2009 6:55:54 PM   
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Why depend on me to enlighten you about George Soros and his single handed manipulation of American political causes? Especially when we both know you would never be happy with any of the links I may present anyway.

Google him yourself, and pay special attention to the causes he funnels his billions into.


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Oh, do please explain.




You mean, of course,  vowing to remove Bush from office back in the 2004 campaign.

When he became the new conservative boogeyman.

Now show me where he has made donations to enhance his profits like those of the insurance industry and their lobbies.

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