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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

Not to me it's not, because there's culture diferences sometimes between what whites have gone through and blacks have gone through and nature versus nurcher, And I know plenty of black people who's family would pitch a fit, and I maybe shallow for this but I don't want a relationship with someone who's family is going to be oppositional about our relationship because of race or culture differences.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Sadly, you get people from both sides who take a very stern (ie violent) line towards mixed race couples.

This is very true. I was recently approached by a black woman who told me it was my fault that black women could not find a decent hard working black man. I was baffled.

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ORIGINAL: devilishpixie

DRH,
My exhusband was Chinesse and my last owner was Italian but over the past several years I simply find myself attracted to black men. It's not that I look at other men negatively.

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ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

Actually, I'm attracted to "dark" men.  Dark hair, dark eyes, dark skin...  it's such a contrast to my own.  I find it very appealing.

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ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead
trashy menthol-smoking "Newport" whores anyway*   

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ORIGINAL: devilishpixie
This is very true. I was recently approached by a black woman who told me it was my fault that black women could not find a decent hard working black man. I was baffled.

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ORIGINAL: Lucienne



I offer this correction with kindness...

Nurture.

Whose.

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ORIGINAL: devilishpixie

Toppingfrmbottom,
I know alot of families in all kinds of races that are vocal about who their family members marry or are in a relationship with. Black families don't have a monopoly on that.

DRH,
My exhusband was Chinesse and my last owner was Italian but over the past several years I simply find myself attracted to black men. It's not that I look at other men negatively.

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ORIGINAL: devilishpixie

While many reasons offered for dating limitations present legitimate concerns, does having such concerns adequately answer the question of whether or not excluding particular races for any reason in any context amount to racism?

And are race-based dating limitations truly just preferences, or are they a smaller reflection of society's racist views in general?

Is dating strictly within your race the same as strictly dating outside your race or within another race? Why or why not?

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ORIGINAL: nubianmuscle

By default, MOST, of my past relationships have either been with Latinas or white women. And I know that is simply a matter of the environment I am in.

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ORIGINAL: devilishpixie

This is very true. I was recently approached by a black woman who told me it was my fault that black women could not find a decent hard working black man. I was baffled.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

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ORIGINAL: devilishpixie
This is very true. I was recently approached by a black woman who told me it was my fault that black women could not find a decent hard working black man. I was baffled.

Unfortunately it is a growing trend among middle class black American males to not date middle class black American females.

/www.atlasbooks.com/marktplc/02701.htm

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: devilishpixie

This is very true. I was recently approached by a black woman who told me it was my fault that black women could not find a decent hard working black man. I was baffled.

she said that to you because you're not black. however, if you were and your partner was a different race the comment would not have been made. the issues between black women and men have nothing to do with interracial dating and everything to do with each deciding to explore their options. i have never understood the mentality that it is wrong for a black man to have anyone other than a black woman. well, actually i do and i'll say it.

"some believe" it is easier for black men to step outside of their race than black women. many in the latter category never do out of fear of rejection and the reality in some instances that she would never be more than his toy. when it came to settling down he would always choose one of his own. of course she won't tell you this. but that's really it in the nutshell. so it is a bit of jealousy coupled with fear that she is not at liberty to do what you have. in her mind her options are limited and every instance of interracial dating that she encounters reminds her of this.

my opinion differs, but it is colored by the fact i was a very exposed child and grew up surrounded by activities that crossed racial lines. there are many facets of black culture that were never part of my life. my parents and extended family felt it was more important to raise a cultured lady instead. consider the factor that they were extremely intellectual people and very conservative and a different picture is painted. while i can empathize for the sake of doing such, in some aspects i can't relate. the woman may be unaware that her remarks are offensive, but in her mind the statement makes sense. of course in mine it cannot, because that isn't the reality i've known.

porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Unfortunately it is a growing trend among middle class black American males to not date middle class black American females.

/www.atlasbooks.com/marktplc/02701.htm

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

among the mainstream perhaps. those born into the upper middle class typically affiliated with their own. there were always the jack and jill types that intentionally exposed their children to persons like themselves to ensure the likelihood they would settle down with a man of color rather than step outside of their race instead. for persons of this nature preserving heritage and tradition is paramount. they aren't newly middle class and many are quite moneyed in fact. i view them as class oriented with a racial preference. i don't see either in a negative vain. just merely individuals exercising choice instead.

porcelaine