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Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Cool w... - 11/1/2009 5:40:57 AM

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i JUST HEARD on Good Morning America about happened on Oct 24 at Richmond High School, California. They said this girl was gang raped and beatened for over 2 hours and a possible dozen kids observing or walking by and some even cheering and taking photos on their cells outside a homecoming dance. You know i am as much if not more disgusted and horrified with the kids watching as the rapists. I guess morbidly the pics that have been taken can be used to identify people involved but damn.

Police believe as many as five boys joined in the gang rape, which lasted more than two hours. As word spread of the attack, other kids arrived to watch. As many as 12-15 others stood around as the girl was being assaulted. No one called police.

Police only arrived around midnight after getting a call from someone who'd overheard other people "reminiscing about the incident," Lt. Mark Gagan. The girl was found unconscious and "brutally assaulted" under a bench. She was flown to a hospital in critical condition, but has since stabilized.

Yes for those that it matters to, there was drinking involved. Is this kind of thing so "no big deal" or even "cool" that our kids don't see the horror of it when they see it in front of them? angel

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 5:59:38 AM

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Kitty Genovese's murder was overheard by dozens of her neighbors in the apartment building. Some watched it out their windows and nobody called the police. That was in about 1958 so nothing new here.

I'm not saying this is right, I am saying it is not new.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 6:12:02 AM

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Well gee, good to know its not new. I mean 1958 no kidding. Thanks for the trivia.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 6:40:38 AM

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Animals like these should be caged for life and never let out. Those who watched and did nothing should be drugged and tossed into that cage for a 2 hour ordeal like that poor girl endured.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 6:44:31 AM

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i think the observers (they cheered??!!??) should be charged as well.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 6:55:25 AM

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i think the observers (they cheered??!!??) should be charged as well.

Actually, I think that they can be. Something like "Accessory." I know that if you witness a crime and do nothing or someone brags to you about killing someone, you can be charged that way. It is like "Accessory after the fact" I think. I am not a legal person, so I may not have the terms correct.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 7:05:08 AM

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There was a movie called The Accused in which Jodie Foster played a rape victim to Kelly McGinnis' lawyer role. In it, the lawyer went after the witnesses who cheered on the rape and ultimately won convictions.

The Wiki blurb on Cheryl_Araujo, whose case the movie was based on, gives no indication whether the witnesses were prosecuted or not, but hints against it.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 7:17:50 AM

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 7:24:34 AM

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So far, in the California case, 6 have been arrested. Welcome to the age of desensitization. Arent we proud of our children being able to handle such atrocities.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 7:29:23 AM

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I went to the link and read the story. Underneath it where 75 comments. So I suppose if you want to read the rest of the story, read the idiotic comments. Here's the comment I left.

All I can say is thank god this girl was out cold. As a parent I don't know if I would try to shield her from the truth about what took place. I would be devastated for her.
No matter her parents financial circumstance, I hope she gets a victims rights lawyer, and receives enough money for private schooling far far away. That is the least we can all pitch in and do for her.

I seriously hope her wounds can be healed as well, both body and mind. I guess now we say, thank god she survived. And I for one, will let the legal system do what it can. I'm tempted to find out the hospital and send flowers and a card. To the entire family.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 7:49:20 AM

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quote:

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i think the observers (they cheered??!!??) should be charged as well.

Actually, I think that they can be. Something like "Accessory." I know that if you witness a crime and do nothing or someone brags to you about killing someone, you can be charged that way. It is like "Accessory after the fact" I think. I am not a legal person, so I may not have the terms correct.

You're right, they can. Sadly the accessory thing carries a lot less weight than the French equivalent, so they probably won't be.
Which is a shame, as the notion of some pissed up little shit using their phone to take a few pictures instead of calling the police is repulsive.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 7:51:33 AM

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They can also lose their cell phone access if those pics were found to have been sent to someone else. Want to kill a teen? take away the technology. Then there may be cases if these pics are also found on personal computers. now we have child pornography, since this was a minor.

The waters are getting murky. And i think the sharks are wanting blood over this one.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 7:54:25 AM

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And to add insult to injury, dig up the comments of the school officials; they are more interested in covering thier asses than showing much concern for the victim.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 7:55:54 AM

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Not to mention the teachers protesting because positive things are never said about the school and this is just giving it a bad rep. I thought I would throw up after reading that.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 7:57:12 AM

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quote:

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i think the observers (they cheered??!!??) should be charged as well.

Actually, I think that they can be. Something like "Accessory." I know that if you witness a crime and do nothing or someone brags to you about killing someone, you can be charged that way. It is like "Accessory after the fact" I think. I am not a legal person, so I may not have the terms correct.

You're right, they can. Sadly the accessory thing carries a lot less weight than the French equivalent, so they probably won't be.
Which is a shame, as the notion of some pissed up little shit using their phone to take a few pictures instead of calling the police is repulsive.

According to the story, the authorities are looking into charging the on-lookers with aiding and abetting but they will have to prove that those charged with such actually facilitated or goaded the assailants. It is not a crime to not report a crime you witness unless the victim is under 14.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 8:09:50 AM

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i think the observers (they cheered??!!??) should be charged as well.

Actually, I think that they can be. Something like "Accessory." I know that if you witness a crime and do nothing or someone brags to you about killing someone, you can be charged that way. It is like "Accessory after the fact" I think. I am not a legal person, so I may not have the terms correct.

Yes, you are correct. i was in jail (yeah it happens) with a girl once that was in for accessory to murder. Her boyfriend had murdered someone and told her about it. She thought he was joking. He wasn't. She didn't report it.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 8:48:24 AM

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Kitty Genovese's murder was overheard by dozens of her neighbors in the apartment building. Some watched it out their windows and nobody called the police. That was in about 1958 so nothing new here.

I'm not saying this is right, I am saying it is not new.

That came to mind with me as well. The thinking went that someone else had called the police. Tho- in this case it seems a regional demention is in it. I mean with those Californians it is fun to have a shooting at a graduation. cheap thrills. The world was a mess before we were born it will be a mess when we leave.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 8:52:16 AM

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Those who watched and did nothing should be drugged and tossed into that cage for a 2 hour ordeal like that poor girl endured.

Which raises the question as to why should anyone differentiate between your lust for violence and theirs?

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 9:55:19 AM

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It's not the age of desensitization... group-think and hesitation to act have been around forever.

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RE: Kids say -- eh its just a gang rape, no biggie. Co... - 11/1/2009 9:55:56 AM

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Those who watched and did nothing should be drugged and tossed into that cage for a 2 hour ordeal like that poor girl endured.

Which raises the question as to why should anyone differentiate between your lust for violence and theirs?

is it violence or justice?

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