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vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 2:42:28 PM   
frazzle


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Status: offline 		The treaty has been ratified. cant be changed so what good would a vote do??????
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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 2:46:24 PM   
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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 2:47:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		So, the Americans have allowed europe to exist for the time being, ratified the vote and all proper and in order, eh?

Whats all this about then?

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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:01:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mn normally i find you amusing. but the Uk government have just agreed to a treaty we were promised a vote on. we didnt get that vote because it wouldnt have been ratitfied.

we dont have democracy in the |Uk anymore its a dictatorship

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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:02:38 PM   
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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:04:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		right, and not everyone lives in the UK, as you can see by our attitude, everyone who is anyone lives in the US.

So, in less amusing fashion, let me ask for our untutored freinds (of which I assure you, in this matter I am one)

What bleeding treaty was it?

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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:07:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I admit to knowing little about this treaty. we werent told. we do know that countries objected and it was changed. it has just been signed by all. and we as Uk citizens have had no say

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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:09:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think she means the Lisbon treaty.  Sounds like a mess.   A EU federal tax coming too.

It is hard to beleive people WANT that.

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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:11:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		They darent put it to a vote in GB. we dont see our selves as part of europe. never will amd yes i can see the plusses and minusses

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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:15:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I want to hold a british passport. No i have to have a european passport. where is my nationality.
British isnt allowed anymore

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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:16:42 PM   
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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:21:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

I think she means the Lisbon treaty.  Sounds like a mess.   A EU federal tax coming too.

It is hard to beleive people WANT that.


People mostly don't give a shit one way or the other. Myself, I'd much sooner lose sovereignity to Brussels than Washington: we get to elect MEPs but we don't have any say in which tit the minority of Americans who can be arsed to vote put in power, do we?

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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:32:48 PM   
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Horse has bolted so any language relating to how anti the treaty they are is counterproductive and they won't have any influence in Europe to change it back. This about sums up how David Cameron says all the right things (as you'd expect any owner of a PR company to do) but hasn’t got the first clue what he can and can't change and how to go about it.

another example of this: Stimulus they don't like but haven’t said what the alternative to it would have been. Postal strike they moan and blame the government for even though they have no idea how they’d get the two parties to talk sense.

Tory vote = fuck up the country further but in record time.

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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:34:28 PM   
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It's horribly depressing that the evil little cunt's going to win the next general election, isn't it?

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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:52:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

I think she means the Lisbon treaty.  Sounds like a mess.   A EU federal tax coming too.

It is hard to beleive people WANT that.



No plans for an EU federal tax pahunk. We already contribute via our own tax system.

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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:53:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
Word.
It's horribly depressing that the evil little cunt's going to win the next general election, isn't it?


I'm not resigned to that fact yet I'm hoping the polls are wrong and people will see the true emptiness beneath the veneer of the conservatives.






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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:54:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Word.
It's horribly depressing that the evil little cunt's going to win the next general election, isn't it?


Not as depressing as Gordon getting back in.

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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:57:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Big Gordy's the main reason Cameron's going to win, isn't he? Useless tosser.

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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 3:57:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		All them years of economic stability forgotten in an instant eh Politesub?

and due to uncontrollable global issues.

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RE: vote on europe!!! - 11/5/2009 4:05:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just as you all forget the periods of stability under Thatcher, Brown was partly getting the benefit of economic plans started under the conservatives, and partly selling of the family silver, pun intended. I wont even get into the stealing from pension funds.

The thread is about the vote on the European constitution, promised to voters under the last Labour manifesto. You are smart enough to know this revised treaty is nothing more than the constitution under another name.

Camerons living in a dream if he thinks he can order the other nations to give us back any rights already lost. He wont fare any better than Brown, Blair was cute and jumped ship. I dont have much time for any of them.

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