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rulemylife -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 4:20:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

I am still unsure why so many people put so much emphasis on what a loud mouth, shock entertainer does.


This question keeps coming up and I keep trying to answer it, but apparently my answers are reaching deaf ears, so let me try to reverse the question.

Why were these comments made if he is not taken seriously by a great many on the right?


Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele says he has reached out to Rush Limbaugh to tell him he meant no offense when he referred to the popular conservative radio host as an “entertainer” whose show can be “incendiary.”

“My intent was not to go after Rush – I have enormous respect for Rush Limbaugh,” Steele said in a telephone interview. “I was maybe a little bit inarticulate. … There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories
 



willbeurdaddy -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 4:23:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I am confused…I thought Limppa was for the US participation in Afghanistan and Iraq. If this is so… how can he call the President almost at fault for doing exactly what he is supporting? That is like saying he is at fault too.

Butch



Yes, you are confused. Rush's statement was about Hasan's belief that we shouldnt be in Afghanistan and Iraq, not his own opinion. Then, since Hasan thinks we should be out, Obama promised we would be out, we arent out, therfore BO is "almost at fault". (I dont agree with that leap. There are possibly more concrete ways to lay it at BOs feet).



philosophy -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 4:32:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


Yes, you are confused. Rush's statement was about Hasan's belief that we shouldnt be in Afghanistan and Iraq, not his own opinion. Then, since Hasan thinks we should be out, Obama promised we would be out, we arent out, therfore BO is "almost at fault". (I dont agree with that leap. There are possibly more concrete ways to lay it at BOs feet).


...well don't keep us in suspense. How do you blame the POTUS?



rulemylife -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 4:36:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I am confused…I thought Limppa was for the US participation in Afghanistan and Iraq. If this is so… how can he call the President almost at fault for doing exactly what he is supporting? That is like saying he is at fault too.

Butch


Not to worry, Rush is more confused.

He has a hard time keeping straight just exactly what he believes.

The easiest way to understand it is he supports the exact opposite of anything a Democrat supports.

So, if Bush invades Afghanistan, this is good, but if Obama wants to finish the mission there by increasing troop levels, that is bad.




kdsub -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 4:37:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I am confused…I thought Limppa was for the US participation in Afghanistan and Iraq. If this is so… how can he call the President almost at fault for doing exactly what he is supporting? That is like saying he is at fault too.

Butch



Yes, you are confused. Rush's statement was about Hasan's belief that we shouldnt be in Afghanistan and Iraq, not his own opinion. Then, since Hasan thinks we should be out, Obama promised we would be out, we arent out, therfore BO is "almost at fault". (I dont agree with that leap. There are possibly more concrete ways to lay it at BOs feet).


I'm sorry that does not make sense...you can't blame someone who, at least for the time being, is supporting your position. So the only reason for that sequence of words was to try and defame the President. Again at the expense of truth for pure unethical political gain.

Butch



rulemylife -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 4:49:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Yes, you are confused. Rush's statement was about Hasan's belief that we shouldnt be in Afghanistan and Iraq, not his own opinion. Then, since Hasan thinks we should be out, Obama promised we would be out, we arent out, therfore BO is "almost at fault". (I dont agree with that leap. There are possibly more concrete ways to lay it at BOs feet).


Of course there are, and after listening to several hours of other conservative windbags like Hannity and Beck I'm sure you will find some.

[sm=rofl.gif]



rikigrl -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 4:53:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

I am still unsure why so many people put so much emphasis on what a loud mouth, shock entertainer does.



I can only speak for myself, but it's not about 'putting emphasis' on what he does or says: it's about having fun, and it's especially about mocking the people that are stupid enough to listen to him and who take him seriously.

We get our entertainment where we can, and while I agree that laughing at a clown isn't the most mature form of amusement out there... the NFL just doesn't do it for me [:D] .

You know how Limbaugh enjoys demolishing Obama for the sake of it, because it pays well? Well, some of us enjoy demolishing Limbaugh for the sake of it, and because it's free.

And, as dick cheney said of his hunting companion, "he's such an easy target".[;)]



willbeurdaddy -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 5:07:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: philosophy


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


Yes, you are confused. Rush's statement was about Hasan's belief that we shouldnt be in Afghanistan and Iraq, not his own opinion. Then, since Hasan thinks we should be out, Obama promised we would be out, we arent out, therfore BO is "almost at fault". (I dont agree with that leap. There are possibly more concrete ways to lay it at BOs feet).


...well don't keep us in suspense. How do you blame the POTUS?


I didn't say I did. Earlier in the thread I laid out the conditions where that might be plausible however.



HunterS -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 5:07:35 PM)

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I find it laughable that a Senator would have to appologize to an entertainer.


I know that you do not believe this.

H.



Vendaval -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 5:08:35 PM)

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willbeurdaddy -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 5:08:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

I am confused…I thought Limppa was for the US participation in Afghanistan and Iraq. If this is so… how can he call the President almost at fault for doing exactly what he is supporting? That is like saying he is at fault too.

Butch




So, if Bush invades Afghanistan, this is good, but if Obama wants to finish the mission there by increasing troop levels, that is bad.




Wrong again. He rails against Obama taking his sweet time deciding what to do. RL wants the people who actually know what they are doing determine troop levels.



willbeurdaddy -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 5:09:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

I am confused…I thought Limppa was for the US participation in Afghanistan and Iraq. If this is so… how can he call the President almost at fault for doing exactly what he is supporting? That is like saying he is at fault too.

Butch



Yes, you are confused. Rush's statement was about Hasan's belief that we shouldnt be in Afghanistan and Iraq, not his own opinion. Then, since Hasan thinks we should be out, Obama promised we would be out, we arent out, therfore BO is "almost at fault". (I dont agree with that leap. There are possibly more concrete ways to lay it at BOs feet).


I'm sorry that does not make sense...you can't blame someone who, at least for the time being, is supporting your position. So the only reason for that sequence of words was to try and defame the President. Again at the expense of truth for pure unethical political gain.

Butch



You apparently dont understand 3rd person. He is talking what Hasan thinks, not himself.



SpinnerofTales -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 5:19:15 PM)

~FR~

This is all fun, but we all know how it's going to shake down. Sooner or later, Hasan's going insane and shooting up those soldiers will be something for which the Rush Limbaugh wing of the right will blame the Obama administration for. There is no other alternative. Since they have no new ideas, no credible candidates and no plans for actually fixing anything that is wrong with this country, the only alternative they have is to shovel as much dirt at the current administration and hope they can make it look bad enough to scare people back into the conservative fold. Limbaugh is just the guy who puts his toe in. Sooner or later his right wing lemmings (and I am not saying all conservatives are Rush Limbaugh conservatives) will plunge in afterward.

Unless the American people stand up to this, this "We aren't going to do better. We're going to make you look worse" tactic that has been employed since Obama won the election is going to bring the lowest common denominator down even further in our government. Rush is just the tip of a very ugly iceberg.




rulemylife -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 5:25:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HunterS

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I find it laughable that a Senator would have to appologize to an entertainer.


I know that you do not believe this.

H.


What do you mean?

You haven't seen the kowtowing to Limbaugh or am I misinterpreting?



rulemylife -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 5:38:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Wrong again. He rails against Obama taking his sweet time deciding what to do. RL wants the people who actually know what they are doing determine troop levels.


You mean something like the acquiescence of Bush to everything the military commanders demanded because he never really had the balls to make any decisions himself?

That all worked out pretty well huh?

Myself, I'm going on a Christmas vacation to Baghdad to bask in the peace and prosperity.



willbeurdaddy -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 5:42:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Wrong again. He rails against Obama taking his sweet time deciding what to do. RL wants the people who actually know what they are doing determine troop levels.


You mean something like the acquiescence of Bush to everything the military commanders demanded because he never really had the balls to make any decisions himself?

That all worked out pretty well huh?

Myself, I'm going on a Christmas vacation to Baghdad to bask in the peace and prosperity.



Have a fun trip.



SpinnerofTales -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 6:42:29 PM)

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Wrong again. He rails against Obama taking his sweet time deciding what to do. RL wants the people who actually know what they are doing determine troop levels.

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy



Gee...how awful it is that faced with a complex and difficult decision, to take time to think about it, gather information and make an informed decision. Some of the presidents we had would never do such an awful thing, would they?




luckydawg -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 7:00:44 PM)

Spinner, but he has had a year, and hasn't made the "informed decision" yet. There is a clock on this thing. Honestly he has Biden and Hillary over there pissing off and setting the stage for another
Democratic Abandonment of people who dared make a stand against the forces of Islamic Radicalism with us. It's great for the harder left. He has the chance to make it so no one will trust or work with America for another generation.

The reality is the forign policy goals he campaigned on were simply political fluff. His support of the war in Afghanistan was simply an anti Iraq/Bush thing, he did not really mean it. And our soldiers (and our allies) are dying while he decides where the Political advantage is for him. Disgusting.



OrionTheWolf -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 7:13:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales

~FR~

This is all fun, but we all know how it's going to shake down. Sooner or later, Hasan's going insane and shooting up those soldiers will be something for which the Rush Limbaugh wing of the right will blame the Obama administration for. There is no other alternative.


So you are admitting he has not done it yet, but he will?

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Since they have no new ideas, no credible candidates and no plans for actually fixing anything that is wrong with this country,


I agree they do not have any new ideas, credible candidates, and no plans for actually fixing anything. My "they" includes most of the politicians though, including the Dems. You know like fixing health care:

" Making the medical system more efficient is, in short, about saving lives and giving Americans a long overdue raise. It is arguably the single most important step that the federal government could take to improve people’s lives. And the bill that the House of Representatives passed last weekend simply does not get it done. "

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the only alternative they have is to shovel as much dirt at the current administration and hope they can make it look bad enough to scare people back into the conservative fold.


Both sides have used this tactic throughout the years, and the tactic seems perfectly fine to use, as long as your side is using it.

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Limbaugh is just the guy who puts his toe in. Sooner or later his right wing lemmings (and I am not saying all conservatives are Rush Limbaugh conservatives) will plunge in afterward.


Rush and other Republican supported talk show hosts said they were going to make a lot of money when a Dem made President. When those comments first started, they thought it would be Hillary they were going to shoot shit at.

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Unless the American people stand up to this, this "We aren't going to do better. We're going to make you look worse" tactic that has been employed since Obama won the election is going to bring the lowest common denominator down even further in our government. Rush is just the tip of a very ugly iceberg.


You are almost correct. Until the people stop supporting any political party that uses this kind of tactic. The problem is that each side feels justified in using it against the "enemy", just like it has always been used. The problem is that most of you, including you Spinner, do not realize that all of the politicians are pretty much the enemy, and supporting Rush or supporting the Dems unanimously, is collaborating with the enemy.

Spinner, you yourself have used some of the same tactics you rant against, as I pointed out in the previous post to you. Now you are going to post that these horrible tactics should not be tolerated, and this time you are absolutely correct <hands you a mirror>.

Now to actually comment on the OP, it seems while Rush is a shit slinging blowhard, that is easily made fun of, why twist his words when if you wait long enough he will actually say something legitimately stupid and ridiculous.

The more people argue and get in an uproar over what he says, the more credibility you give the clown.



kittinSol -> RE: An Increasingly Unstable Limbaugh Blames Obama for Ft. Hood Shootings (11/10/2009 7:35:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rikigrl
And, as dick cheney said of his hunting companion, "he's such an easy target".[;)]


And... he is the de facto spokesperson for the Republican party, which gives him mega exposure to the crooked libewal media elite.



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