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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 2:25:21 PM   
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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 2:29:35 PM   
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So in the final analysis, the accusation being floated here rests on nothing more or less than some very selective and deceptive context-picking. Whether that reflects paranoia or deliberately contrived slander, I cannot say. But either way, it certainly fits the Psalm's opening complaint that, "wicked and deceitful men have opened their mouths against me; they have spoken against me with lying tongues.


So what you are trying to argue here is that those pointing out the "very selective and deceptive context-picking" of the nutcases who are promoting this are actually at fault because they are using "very selective and deceptive context-picking" by criticizing it.



Psalm 109 & the Antichrist

The hidden prophecy in Psalm 109 is so plain it can hardly be said to be hidden at all. It is plain as day that the antichrist is described here. In verse 8, we read these words concerning Judas Iscariot, a type of antichrist, "Let his days be few; and let another take his office." This scripture is quoted by Luke in Acts 1:20 when it was fulfilled, "For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take."

One can't help but notice that the chapter and verse number, 1:20, appears to be pointing to the inauguration date of the US President!

I have documented in evidence #2 of my article, "Is the Man of Sin Revealed?", the following concerning Acts chapter 1 linking Obama and Judas:

"The standard, ordinal and reduced values of Barack Hussein Obama are 793, 163 and 64. Scripture records the death of Judas (type of antichrist) in two chapters, Mat 27 and Acts 1. The chapter number of Mat 27 is 956 -- the sum of 793 and 163 -- standard and ordinal values of Barack Hussein Obama! The total number of chapters between Mat 27 and Acts 1 inclusive is 64 -- the reduced value of  Barack Hussein Obama!





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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 2:35:47 PM   
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And what truth/proff are you offering that they are "good people"?


That's like you making an accusation against me and expect me to provide proof that it is not true...It is your responsibility to make an accusation then prove it.

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1) I made know accusation against anyone
            2) you said they were good people...I merely asked how you a)know that and b)how are the rest of us supposed to know that?

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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 2:42:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you agree that this thread is a Thinly-veiled Evangelical threat and these Evangelicals are not good people then it is for you to prove not me.

If I said anyone with a nick of slvemike4U was making Thinly-Veiled Evangelical threats don’t you think it would be on me to prove it not you?

I think you are good people unless proven otherwise.

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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 2:58:58 PM   
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If you agree that this thread is a Thinly-veiled Evangelical threat and these Evangelicals are not good people then it is for you to prove not me.

If I said anyone with a nick of slvemike4U was making Thinly-Veiled Evangelical threats don’t you think it would be on me to prove it not you?

I think you are good people unless proven otherwise.

Butch

1)I don't beleive this thread is a thinly veiled evangelical threat....though I do think there is some cause for concern .
2) I don't know these people...you,in a post you decried as lacking in proof,sugessted this was an attack against"good people"
I simply asked for you to offer proof that they were good people.
Your last line is interesting,and quite frankly I agree with it....I too assume people are basically good uptill they prove otherwise.....now I would be curious to hear some evangelical thoughts on assumptions such as that as they pertain to our President.




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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 2:59:39 PM   
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So in the final analysis, the accusation being floated here rests on nothing more or less than some very selective and deceptive context-picking. Whether that reflects paranoia or deliberately contrived slander, I cannot say. But either way, it certainly fits the Psalm's opening complaint that, "wicked and deceitful men have opened their mouths against me; they have spoken against me with lying tongues.


So what you are trying to argue here is that those pointing out the "very selective and deceptive context-picking" of the nutcases who are promoting this are actually at fault because they are using "very selective and deceptive context-picking" by criticizing it.

I'm sorry, but I've given up trying to find sense in your posts. I'm sure it's just some shortcoming of mine, but you might as well save yourself the trouble all the same. You've got a nice credible supporting link, there though. Good work!

K.



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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 3:11:04 PM   
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...I have never seen the tee shirt or a poster of the subject of this thread, however I would never represent they don't exist.



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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 3:17:12 PM   
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Go here

Interesting. We finally we get to see where the idea came from...

If you weren’t sure where you stood on health care “reform,” I think NOW you can rest assured that it is a VERY BAD IDEA. Basic health care services for women, from family planning, to breast cancer screening, to prenatal care, to reproductive choice are literally UNDER ATTACK.

Now that's what I call a real evangelical Christian bunch!!

Puma Pac



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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 3:26:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata

So in the final analysis, the accusation being floated here rests on nothing more or less than some very selective and deceptive context-picking. Whether that reflects paranoia or deliberately contrived slander, I cannot say. But either way, it certainly fits the Psalm's opening complaint that, "wicked and deceitful men have opened their mouths against me; they have spoken against me with lying tongues.


So what you are trying to argue here is that those pointing out the "very selective and deceptive context-picking" of the nutcases who are promoting this are actually at fault because they are using "very selective and deceptive context-picking" by criticizing it.

I'm sorry, but I've given up trying to find sense in your posts. I'm sure it's just some shortcoming of mine, but you might as well save yourself the trouble all the same. You've got a nice credible supporting link, there though. Good work!

K.


Then let me try and help you through that confusion problem that seems to be recurring with you.

You believe it was the critics that inflamed the issue and I was trying to point out the nutcases who are the cause of the issue.

Hence, the supporting link of a nutcase promoting Obama as the anti-Christ based on psalm 109.

Psalm 109 & the Antichrist






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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 3:30:37 PM   
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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 3:32:51 PM   
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Hence, the supporting link of a nutcase promoting Obama as the anti-Christ based on psalm 109.

Unh huh, and when you connect The Five Doves with Puma Pac you be sure to let me know, okay?

In the meantime, practice spelling phrases like "knee jerk" and "deep end".

K.

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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 3:38:24 PM   
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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 3:40:19 PM   
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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 3:41:04 PM   
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Ive always had a distinct taste for glenmorangie. I was weaned on glenfiddich, well practically.
The only thing you mix with a malt, is another shot of malt ....dammmit
bottoms up chaps.

Thanks for bringing things back to reality, Lucy....

I lost track there for a minute of the only really substantial topic here. Heh.

K.




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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 3:42:44 PM   
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I thought that Cafe press had stopped selling them ....but appears not

No reason to that I can see, except ...er... paranoia

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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 3:45:41 PM   
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...I have never seen the tee shirt or a poster of the subject of this thread, however I would never represent they don't exist.


Go here


I stand behind my previous comments on the subject, I laughed.

I'm not one who believes that a person's ignorance exposed in public like this deserves anything more. Besides, some of those Bush posters were down right funny.

Yes, there are very dangerous people out there, the lunatic fringe, on both sides. Its the credibility they are given by others that validates them - not their poster or tee shirt.

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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 3:47:33 PM   
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there are very dangerous people out there, the lunatic fringe, on both sides. Its the credibility they are given by others that validates them

Yeah, and I think we've seen that truth in action right here.

K.

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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 3:51:01 PM   
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Go here

Interesting. We finally we get to see where the idea came from...

If you weren’t sure where you stood on health care “reform,” I think NOW you can rest assured that it is a VERY BAD IDEA. Basic health care services for women, from family planning, to breast cancer screening, to prenatal care, to reproductive choice are literally UNDER ATTACK.

Now that's what I call a real evangelical Christian bunch!!

Puma Pac



K.


He said he had never seen the t-shirts or posters.

I merely offered a link that showed them, without any promotion of that link as a support for anything I have said.

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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 3:56:59 PM   
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I merely offered a link that showed them, without any promotion of that link as a support for anything I have said.

Unh, I don't recall suggesting otherwise. But it's a good thing you didn't, eh?

K.




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RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian O... - 11/19/2009 4:00:37 PM   
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Thanks for bringing things back to reality, Lucy....

I lost track there for a minute of the only really substantial topic here. Heh.

K.


Yeah some hijack huh? you guys were making my mouth water so I had to put in my two cents
Now back to the scheduled egyptian river




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