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SpinnerofTales -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 1:30:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls
The Socialist Party candidate for President of the U.S., Norman Thomas, said
this in a 1944 speech:

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the
name of "liberalism, " they will adopt every fragment of the socialist
program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing
how it happened." He went on to say: "I no longer need to run as a
Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democrat Party has
adopted our platform."


Amazing how the conservatives will reach back however far in time to find anything anyone says to demonize anyone to the left of themselves but have decided George Bush and his misdeeds are ancient history. Please, for the sake of politeness if nothing else, try to cover up your hypocracy just a little bit.




slvemike4u -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 1:33:16 PM)

Spinner perhaps you failed to get the memo....mentioning Bush in any post is strictly verbotten.
Please cease this practice immediately.




Moonhead -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 1:34:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Lynette Squecky Fromme was a Liberal.....what an absurd statement!
She was a devotte of Manson....is it your opinion Manson too was a liberal?

A lad who was obsessed with a coming race war, and who carved a swastika into his forehead during his trial probably isn't a lefty. Sorry.




slvemike4u -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 1:45:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Lynette Squecky Fromme was a Liberal.....what an absurd statement!
She was a devotte of Manson....is it your opinion Manson too was a liberal?

A lad who was obsessed with a coming race war, and who carved a swastika into his forehead during his trial probably isn't a lefty. Sorry.
No need to point that out to me MoonHead,I was actually refuting the rediculous statement made by another poster......




Moonhead -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 1:56:15 PM)

Mea culpa. I'd quoted the wrong post and beg your pardon.




slvemike4u -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 2:04:51 PM)

No need.none at all...my only fear was someone else coming along late and crediting me with such claptrap nonsense.
I'm not the brightest guy around.....but that was rediculous!




Moonhead -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 2:21:18 PM)

I hear you: I sometimes find my brain going into spasms answering posts on here where people have taken issue with what I actually said, so I can imagine how worrying that thought is.




tazzygirl -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 3:17:05 PM)

So, no protestors have ever been arrested or convicted of threatening Bush. lol... thats the best laugh i have had all day

THANKS!




Acer49 -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 6:27:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Thinly-Veiled Christian Obama Death Threats Take Off


Apparently, the latest thing in "Debasing The Institutions You Pretend To Hold Dear In Order To Suggest That President Barack Obama Should Be Murdered Without Actually Coming Right Out And Saying So" goes by a shorter name: Psalm 109:8.

And Psalm 109:8 is just straight up memetastic, appearing on bumper stickers and T-shirts, all of which carry the benign sounding message, "Pray For Obama. "But, as Gawker's John Cook points out, this is just one more in a "long line of cheekily coded Obama death threats."

The verse in question reads: "May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership."

That leads fairly naturally into the Psalm 109:9, "May his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow." You know, in case you miss the point.

Rachel Maddow took up this issue last night, inviting Patience With God author and Huffington Post blogger Frank Schaeffer to explain whether or not the citation of this Biblical text "means something less threatening to people hearing this in a Biblical context."

What we're looking at right now is two things going on. We see the evangelical groups I talked about in my new book, Patience With God, enthralled by an apocalyptic vision that I go into in some detail there. They represent the millions of people who have turned the Left Behind series into best sellers.

Most of them are not crazy, they're just deluded. But there is a crazy fringe to whom all these little messages that have been pouring out of Fox News, now on a bumper sticker, talking about doing away with Obama, asking God to kill him. Really, this is trolling for assassins. This is serious business.





Why waste a bullet, he is better off alive, making an ass of himself and adding fuel to the fire for those that happen to believe that a black man is not smart enough to be the man in charge




Lucylastic -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 7:02:48 PM)

feeling a little antagonistic tonite are you Acer?
too bad, so saddddd




thishereboi -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 7:06:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Acer49


Why waste a bullet, he is better off alive, making an ass of himself and adding fuel to the fire for those that happen to believe that a black man is not smart enough to be the man in charge



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blacksword404 -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 8:56:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife




And Psalm 109:8 is just straight up memetastic, appearing on bumper stickers and T-shirts, all of which carry the benign sounding message, "Pray For Obama. "But, as Gawker's John Cook points out
, this is just one more in a "long line of cheekily coded Obama death threats." He is delusional.

The verse in question reads: "May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership." Which is what many could not wait to happen for bush. Which obama has done.

That leads fairly naturally into the Psalm 109:9, "May his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow." You know, in case you miss the point.
How the hell does it naturally lead into the next verse if the next verse was not quoted. If the shirts say Psalms 109:8, 109:9 and so on then yea it would be including those verses too. But quoting 109:8 does not mean someone is quoting the verse before or after or the one 3 pages over. It means they are quoting the verse quoted. People quote john 3:16 all the time on things and 3:16 is the only verse they mean to discuss. I think the guy has put meaning where there was none.

Rachel Maddow took up this issue last night, inviting Patience With God author and Huffington Post blogger Frank Schaeffer to explain whether or not the citation of this Biblical text "means something less threatening to people hearing this in a Biblical context."





rulemylife -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 9:58:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Acer49

Why waste a bullet, he is better off alive, making an ass of himself and adding fuel to the fire for those that happen to believe that a black man is not smart enough to be the man in charge




Huh?

Care to elaborate?




rulemylife -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 10:02:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: blacksword404

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife




And Psalm 109:8 is just straight up memetastic, appearing on bumper stickers and T-shirts, all of which carry the benign sounding message, "Pray For Obama. "But, as Gawker's John Cook points out
, this is just one more in a "long line of cheekily coded Obama death threats." He is delusional.

The verse in question reads: "May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership." Which is what many could not wait to happen for bush. Which obama has done.

That leads fairly naturally into the Psalm 109:9, "May his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow." You know, in case you miss the point.
How the hell does it naturally lead into the next verse if the next verse was not quoted. If the shirts say Psalms 109:8, 109:9 and so on then yea it would be including those verses too. But quoting 109:8 does not mean someone is quoting the verse before or after or the one 3 pages over. It means they are quoting the verse quoted. People quote john 3:16 all the time on things and 3:16 is the only verse they mean to discuss. I think the guy has put meaning where there was none.

Rachel Maddow took up this issue last night, inviting Patience With God author and Huffington Post blogger Frank Schaeffer to explain whether or not the citation of this Biblical text "means something less threatening to people hearing this in a Biblical context."




Because as I suggested before, do a search on psalm 109/Obama and see what kind of nutcase nonsense you will pull up.

I posted one earlier in the thread.




blacksword404 -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 11:25:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife


Because as I suggested before, do a search on psalm 109/Obama and see what kind of nutcase nonsense you will pull up.

I posted one earlier in the thread.



I'll do a search on it.




tazzygirl -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/20/2009 11:30:28 PM)

Here is the flip side, rule. a religious site denouncing the use of this prayer.

http://blog.beliefnet.com/progressiverevival/2009/11/psalm-1098--a-prayer-for-obama.html

Psalm 109 belongs to a special category of the psalms known as "imprecatory" prayers--it is a lament in the form of petition to destroy one's enemies. It is the personal prayer of an individual, someone who has been dealt an injustice by another--and usually more powerful--person. The words of Psalm 109 are those of deep agony, the longings of a victim for retribution and justice. This psalm is considered one of the most difficult of all the psalms--full of violent images of vengeance and death. Many a biblical critic has struggled with its words--and not a few--including Roman Catholic and mainline Protestant theologians--recommend that it not be used in public worship, much less as a bumper-sticker political slogan




Kirata -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/21/2009 12:37:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Here is the flip side, rule. a religious site denouncing the use of this prayer.

There is no connection between Puma Pac's "Pray for Obama" cafe gifts and pseudo-Christian flakes. RML just likes to get his exercise by abusing dead horses.

K.




rulemylife -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/21/2009 12:50:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Here is the flip side, rule. a religious site denouncing the use of this prayer.

http://blog.beliefnet.com/progressiverevival/2009/11/psalm-1098--a-prayer-for-obama.html

Psalm 109 belongs to a special category of the psalms known as "imprecatory" prayers--it is a lament in the form of petition to destroy one's enemies. It is the personal prayer of an individual, someone who has been dealt an injustice by another--and usually more powerful--person. The words of Psalm 109 are those of deep agony, the longings of a victim for retribution and justice. This psalm is considered one of the most difficult of all the psalms--full of violent images of vengeance and death. Many a biblical critic has struggled with its words--and not a few--including Roman Catholic and mainline Protestant theologians--recommend that it not be used in public worship, much less as a bumper-sticker political slogan


That's all well and good.

But are you denying there are those using this for other reasons?




tazzygirl -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/21/2009 12:56:07 AM)

Did you read the link?




Kirata -> RE: The Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats (11/21/2009 1:04:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

But are you denying there are those using this for other reasons?

Are you denying that Puma Pac isn't?

K.




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