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slvemike4u -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 7:23:37 AM)

Yeah servant...such a concern is justified based on this incident.Hell if the President can't stay on top of who ever is checking credentials at the gate....bin Laden has probably set up residence in Georgetown.
Definitley indicative of a lax attitude......perhaps impeachment hearings are in order?



servantforuse -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 7:27:58 AM)

I guess your'e right. It's no big deal that anyone can walk into the White House off the street. To me, this is a bid deal and the President could have been at risk.



slvemike4u -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 7:49:08 AM)

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I guess your'e right. It's no big deal that anyone can walk into the White House off the street. To me, this is a bid deal and the President could have been at risk.
Oh please servant,don't misunderstand me...this is a big deal,but your seeking to make some sort of partisan hay out of it is nothing but a joke.
This is indicative of nothing more than the failure of security protocols by the Secret Service at some checkpoints.It will be addressed and some heads will roll....but this is not,and will never be an indication of laxness on the part of the Administration where the safety of the Republic is concerned.



Moonhead -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 8:06:58 AM)

There's certainly been less terrorist attacks on America during Obama's first nine months than there were while Bush was settling in, put it that way.



willbeurdaddy -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 8:42:28 AM)


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There's certainly been less terrorist attacks on America during Obama's first nine months than there were while Bush was settling in, put it that way.


Wrong again. Fort Hood.



tazzygirl -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 9:09:54 AM)

Dont forget the anthrax attacks



Moonhead -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 9:13:47 AM)


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There's certainly been less terrorist attacks on America during Obama's first nine months than there were while Bush was settling in, put it that way.


Wrong again. Fort Hood.

I said "less" not "none".



willbeurdaddy -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 9:23:28 AM)


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There's certainly been less terrorist attacks on America during Obama's first nine months than there were while Bush was settling in, put it that way.


Wrong again. Fort Hood.

I said "less" not "none".


I only recall 1 during Bush's first 11 months. Please remind me.



tazzygirl -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 9:32:47 AM)

I just did.

The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on September 18, 2001.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks

George W. Bush George W. Bush is the 43rd President of the United States. He was sworn into office on January 20, 2001, re-elected on November 2, 2004, and sworn in for a second term on January 20, 2005. Before his Presidency, he served for 6 years as Governor of the State of Texas.



Moonhead -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 9:36:09 AM)


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There's certainly been less terrorist attacks on America during Obama's first nine months than there were while Bush was settling in, put it that way.


Wrong again. Fort Hood.

I said "less" not "none".


I only recall 1 during Bush's first 11 months. Please remind me.

Three planes into the twin towers, one into the Pentagon, and the one that crashed due to a passenger uprising before it got anywhere. Along with the anthrax attacks, that's rather more than one.



luckydawg -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 9:40:10 AM)

I wonder if that has anything to do with OBL being allowed to run training camps with no problem for most of Clintons term. Training, funding and deploying terrorist commandos around the world in sleeper cells, ready to attack at a later date. Which began a string of serious violent attacks worldwide for about 5 years begining in 98.

While Bush killed these fuckers wherver he could find them (worldwide), and took the war into thier home turf, preventing them for having cushy training camps. Not allowing a network of sleeper cells to be deployed, to strike under Obama.







luckydawg -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 9:42:09 AM)

2 planes into the towers..not 3. But 911 was one coordinated huge attack.



tazzygirl -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 9:43:07 AM)

So you are blaming Clinton for the attacks under Bush... and blessing Bush for the lack of attacks under Obama... and i getting this right?



luckydawg -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 9:49:34 AM)

Are you just snarking, or are you going to disagree with any of my points, tazzy?


It seems if anything I said was incorrect, you would point it out. Instead you just snark.



So let me say it again...Yes, Under Clinton OBL ran camps for years, training, funding and deploying sleeper cells to strike at a later date (the string of massive attacks began in 98 lasting for about 5 years, the last 2 of Clinton and first 3 of Bush).

And Bush put them on the run, killed lots of them, and did not allow a network of training camps to exist, where sleeper cells were trained, funded, and deployed to strike at a later date.



So are you a sniping troll, or is there anything here you feel is incorrect?



Moonhead -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 9:53:55 AM)

And there was me thinking that Clinton was stopped from going after bin Laden because he was busy with one of those stupid impeachment fiascos when the opportunity to quietly deal with the wanker came up before the first wave of attacks in '98.



tazzygirl -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 9:56:18 AM)

Yep, i do have a point. Who do you blame for the Oklahoma attack during the Clinton administration?



Moonhead -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 9:57:03 AM)


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And Bush put them on the run, killed lots of them, and did not allow a network of training camps to exist, where sleeper cells were trained, funded, and deployed to strike at a later date.

Or alternatively Bush did the bare minimum to make it look like he was doing something about the problem while using the situation as an excuse to invade an oil rich vassal state. Certainly there's more of a Jihadist presence in Iraq now (not all of it al Queda) than there ever was under Hussein.



luckydawg -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 9:58:30 AM)

Yeah, that is pretty stupid thinking that the office of the presidency can only do one thing at a time........


Or that the same staff that deals with national security was busy helping the president lie about his sexuall harrasment lawsuit.....Or maybe it was. Did he divert national security resources to his personal legal defense? I didn't like the guy, but did not think he was that craven and irresponsible.



Moonhead -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 10:02:05 AM)


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Yeah, that is pretty stupid thinking that the office of the presidency can only do one thing at a time........


Or that the same staff that deals with national security was busy helping the president lie about his sexuall harrasment lawsuit.....Or maybe it was. Did he divert national security resources to his personal legal defense? I didn't like the guy, but did not think he was that craven and irresponsible.

He was advised that if he did anything about it then, he'd be accused by Republican partisans like yourself of doing it to distract attention from the fact that he'd come on a dress. The GOP did America a big favour with that one.



luckydawg -> RE: White House Party Crashers/How did THAT happen? (11/28/2009 10:06:55 AM)

Then he was incompetent in his choice of advisors.....which allowed a network of terrorists to be trained funded and deployed around the world.


Thats why he was a shitty president, IMHO.

but hey it satyisfies you....



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