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Icarys -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 6:30:51 PM)

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i can safely say that the Dom/mes we are compatible with dont feel the need to posture.


Not sure how you get posturing from anything I've said?

I know you don't like me..That's why you take cheap shots..I know also I'm not well liked on the boards either because of (insert reasons here). I state factually what I like and what I am..If you don't care for it I could care less..If you want to attack and belittle..That's entirely on you..In the end you don't mean anything to me. So take your best shot..I'll go get popcorn..Want some? brb.




kyraofMists -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 6:35:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: persephonee
i dont see how you can maintain a long term, live in relationship with that sort of rigidity....(ba dum dum...)


Many people probably wouldn't want a long term live in relationship where only one person has all the authority, but that doesn't mean that some cannot make it work. The three of us make it work. He and Alandra have been together for over 20 years and I have been with them almost 5 and just shy of living together for two years.

Alandra and I do not get to set limitations on what he can and cannot do. He will not allow it; his will decides what he will and will not do. His code is to not cause harm and every thing else is fair game. That leaves a lot of room to play with especially since he makes sure that Alanda and I are strong enough to deal with just about anything he desires to throw at us.

Knight's Kyra




persephonee -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 6:42:29 PM)

Yes, kyra, and i would also maintain that your Knight doesnt posture meaninglessly online....spouting about how its "my way or the highway". He spent years learning all about you before you even knew he was doing it....and that kind of real life finesse is what makes a relationship work of any configuration.

The reason i got all lippy with Icarys, bless his heart, is that he got to beating his chest about hypothetically walking away from a hypothetical woman who had medical issues as he found that to be somehow topping from the bottom hypothetically.

TPE isnt for everyone, but i have been blessed to see it succeed in Master's home....and observed over the years its success in KoM's house as well. You all are to this day an inspiration to a lot of us here.




persephonee -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 6:46:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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i can safely say that the Dom/mes we are compatible with dont feel the need to posture.


Not sure how you get posturing from anything I've said?

I know you don't like me..That's why you take cheap shots..I know also I'm not well liked on the boards either because of (insert reasons here). I state factually what I like and what I am..If you don't care for it I could care less..If you want to attack and belittle..That's entirely on you..In the end you don't mean anything to me. So take your best shot..I'll go get popcorn..Want some? brb.



i apologise if i have taken a cheap shot. i tend to act out when dealing with someone who doesnt seem to address things with a sense of humor...i was really just joshin.

i do, however, disagree with what you posted about limits. i feel that if you had some way of accounting for what a stable partnership needed to function, you would find someone to live with you in Alaska...which is the most beautiful of states.[:)]




Icarys -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 6:48:40 PM)

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Yes, kyra, and i would also maintain that your Knight doesnt posture meaninglessly online....spouting about how its "my way or the highway". He spent years learning all about you before you even knew he was doing it....and that kind of real life finesse is what makes a relationship work of any configuration.

The reason i got all lippy with Icarys, bless his heart, is that he got to beating his chest about hypothetically walking away from a hypothetical woman who had medical issues as he found that to be somehow topping from the bottom hypothetically.

TPE isnt for everyone, but i have been blessed to see it succeed in Master's home....and observed over the years its success in KoM's house as well. You all are to this day an inspiration to a lot of us here.

Bless his heart huh? Isn't that a little hypocritical?[:D]

The reason I said that was because that particular person does that all the time so I gave them exactly what they were looking for(Worst case senario's)...An answer they wanted to hear so they could go Ahhh Hah![:D] Bad me!

I prefer someone that has the same limits I do..It's called compatibility..Shrug




Icarys -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 6:53:10 PM)

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i feel that if you had some way of accounting for what a stable partnership needed to function, you would find someone to live with you in Alaska...


I thought I had done that already with the last 3 good relationships? Or should I have more in the 10 years by now?

It kinda sounds like you don't think I know what I'm doing and want because you happen not to agree with what I'm saying..I guess I should be more like the people who disagree with me believe I should be then I would be a much more happier and successful person in my relationships.

It just so happens I'm a really happy person..but based on others..I shouldn't feel that way..Dammit man..Just when I thought I had it all figure out.

I'll be sure to keep that in mind.[:D]




persephonee -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 6:56:04 PM)

*bites tongue*




thishereboi -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 7:01:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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Some people don't want a well adjusted person, or should it be some well adjusted people don't fit with some people? Either way, it doesn't surprise me that he has only found 3 people who got it right. I think with that track record, I would probably move to Alaska too.


Lol you guys are a trip..Waiting in the bushes to pounce. Yes in 10 years I've only found 3 I've been compatible with..Something seems to be wrong with that as well? I suppose you've found tons of people you were compatible with?



Actually, you said "I've yet to see more than 3 females in my time that knew how to come to me in the way she should TO GET the request granted..Even after it was explained to them how to go about it lol..."

And yes I have met a lot more than 3 women in my life that I would have been compatible with.




kyraofMists -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 7:02:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: persephonee

Yes, kyra, and i would also maintain that your Knight doesnt posture meaninglessly online....spouting about how its "my way or the highway".


LOL I am positive that there would be people who have a different opinions about that *eg*





persephonee -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 7:02:52 PM)

LOL...yeah, but you know what i mean.[:D]




Icarys -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 7:06:04 PM)

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Actually, you said "I've yet to see more than 3 females in my time that knew how to come to me in the way she should TO GET the request granted..Even after it was explained to them how to go about it lol..."

And yes I have met a lot more than 3 women in my life that I would have been compatible with.


And your point is?
Those 3 were ones that understood me because they were compatible with me and vice versa.

Well I haven't.




persephonee -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 7:06:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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i feel that if you had some way of accounting for what a stable partnership needed to function, you would find someone to live with you in Alaska...




It kinda sounds like you don't think I know what I'm doing and want because you happen not to agree with what I'm saying..I guess I should be more like the people who disagree with me believe I should be then I would be a much more happier and successful person in my relationships.



I'll be sure to keep that in mind.[:D]



By golly, i think you GOT it!!!!![:D]
i re edited that for you too, free of charge!




Lizbetbathory -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 7:10:11 PM)

grin i had a sub who had a hard limit of NO CHOCOLATE




Icarys -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 7:11:13 PM)

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LOL I am positive that there would be people who have a different opinions about that *eg*


If your referring to the comment I made about the 3 of you a long time ago..I apologize for that..It was uncalled for.

I should have done this some time ago.




kyraofMists -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 7:20:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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LOL I am positive that there would be people who have a different opinions about that *eg*


If your referring to the comment I made about the 3 of you a long time ago..I apologize for that..It was uncalled for.

I should have done this some time ago.



I appreciate the apology, but my comment was not in regards to anything that I recall you saying in the past. Our life is very much a 'his way or the highway' approach and any willful disobedience on mine or Alandra's part earns us a one-way ticket out of the door. Often when we discuss it there are people who have issues with the rigidity of that stance and "insecure" is one of the more polite remarks that people have made about him in regards to it.

Knight's Kyra




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 7:21:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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Well these limits are set up before a power exchange. So I think she can dictate what her limits are. You can just walk away and vice versa. SO I am not dictating if I say face slapping is a hard limit as it sends me to a bad place and a one of reliving past abuse. Thats not dictating my will. Thats protecting myself emotionally so I can be a well adjusted person.


Whatever it is you want to call it but I wouldn't allow anyone to set anything up prior to or after the relationship has been established as such.

Setting limits is setting limitations and I won't allow it.


You wouldnt allow it and I wouldnt go for it, so there would be no relationship as my welfare would not be important to you, So no relationship would occur.




Icarys -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 7:23:07 PM)

Your welcome..What's the other females name?




Icarys -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 7:24:11 PM)

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You wouldnt allow it and I wouldnt go for it, so there would be no relationship as my welfare would not be important to you, So no relationship would occur.


Cool




kyraofMists -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 7:27:37 PM)

~FR

In regards to the discussion on medical issues coming up after the relationship has already been established, this is how it is handled in our house.

In the last 6 months or so, sex has become extremely painful at certain times. I was diagnosed with endometriosis several months ago. When I let him know the doctor's diagnosis I did not say "I can no longer have sex during the times it hurts". I gave him the information and I keep him informed when I am hurting and when I am not. He then makes the decision on whether he will have sex with me or not. Many times, I don't know until sex starts that it is going to hurt. Again, he makes the decision on whether to continue having sex or whether to stop. To this date he has not chosen to stop, but he has been more gentle during sex and other times he is not.

The difference is that he has the authority to make the decision and I do not. He isn't going to cause harm, and it isn't my decision to make.

Knight's Kyra




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Limits (12/4/2009 7:27:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Icarys

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i can safely say that the Dom/mes we are compatible with dont feel the need to posture.


Not sure how you get posturing from anything I've said?

I know you don't like me..That's why you take cheap shots..I know also I'm not well liked on the boards either because of (insert reasons here). I state factually what I like and what I am..If you don't care for it I could care less..If you want to attack and belittle..That's entirely on you..In the end you don't mean anything to me. So take your best shot..I'll go get popcorn..Want some? brb.



Just because we disagree with you does not mean we dont like you. I dont have dislike or like for you. Thinking that we dont like you is putting way too much emotion to our responses. Thats a pretty big projection on your part.




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