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Hierodule -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/29/2009 9:07:35 PM)

I slept with a guy who should have imitated porn. When he came his voice went up like 2 octaves and he sounded like a sobbing little girl. At one point he said "oh no its not supposed to feel that good." Really? uuum yes it is. He was being himself but it was a total turn off. A little "oh yeah you little bitch, you like that" would have helped his game to be honest. I see him at the bar sometimes and he still makes me uncomfortable. Its a shame too, because he was hot/ had an awesome body.

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ORIGINAL: switch2please

I've only experienced one porn-star wannabe with a scripted orgasm... "oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, OH OH YEAH BABY OH YEAH!!"   I nicknamed him Mr. Kool-Aid.





AquaticSub -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/29/2009 9:08:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss


Aquatic, come here little girl.



Oh the things that are going through my head right now...




sunshinemiss -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/29/2009 9:49:13 PM)

[:D]




sunshinemiss -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/29/2009 9:54:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

It was also the day I discovered what a wild turnon it is for me to have an audience.
Who knew?


 
I believe it may be time to sell tickets.  We just may have a whole slew of willing audience members here.  I'm not sure, but I'm thinking...




EbonyWood -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/29/2009 9:58:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

It was also the day I discovered what a wild turnon it is for me to have an audience.
Who knew?


 
I believe it may be time to sell tickets.  We just may have a whole slew of willing audience members here.  I'm not sure, but I'm thinking...


AnimusRex, the man who OPENS the curtains before sex.




AquaticSub -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/29/2009 10:03:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

AnimusRex, the man who OPENS the curtains before sex.


Oh God... I freak out when I really have an audience. I mean... I play publicly but until I start to get the high going on I usually wonder if people are looking at my stretch marks or do they see that pimple on my back...

I salute those who can do what they do with a real audience. I'm weird in that I can do it in certain circumstances and beyond that I get freaked out.




EbonyWood -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/29/2009 10:06:39 PM)

Think yourself lucky.
 
A lot of the guys who come to this forum have nobody there but themselves when they have sex.




Hierodule -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/29/2009 10:11:57 PM)

I just recently realized I like having an audience too. But I have never been filmed. I have fantasized about being in porn or modeling erotically to be used as wank fodder but I have a mild block about it but I won't hijack the thread to go on  about it.




AquaticSub -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/29/2009 10:12:02 PM)

Damn it, if you wear a glove it counts as another person!




Hierodule -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/29/2009 10:13:31 PM)

what about if you use your left hand?




AquaticSub -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/29/2009 10:30:54 PM)

Then it's just sloppy seconds.




CaringandReal -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/30/2009 5:26:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slaveluci

"Porn is entertainment, not a how-to manual. If men want to know what really turns women on, hetero porn is the last place they should look"..............

http://www.alternet.org/sex/144228/%22you_like_that_baby%2C_you_like_that%22%3A_has_porn_made_men_bad_at_sex

What say you?

luci


Good article.

You've pinpointed one thing I really hate about the personal ads on this site. So many of the "male dom" profiles profiles contain lines and attitudes and fantasy ideas from bad bdsm or semi-bdsm/misogyny pornos... It's as if they all just fell off the Bang Bus in one big messy heap and then crawled their way over to Collarme. These "I'm Such a Baaad Evil Boy" profiles sound so much the same and there are so many of them that I used to wonder what online class (How 2 Pick Up Subbs While Making Them Think They're Picking Up U?) they were all attending to acquire the boring, canned drek they put up instead of anything real or potentially interesting/sexy about themselves. I now think I know. Their school is bad bdsm porn. :/ They must think women find bdsm porno/bad boy speak hawt.




Lucienne -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/30/2009 5:57:03 AM)

I think what makes people bad at sex is the notion that there is a precise formula to be followed. Porn tends to reinforce a "one size fits all" mentality, but it didn't create it.

As the article notes, I think porn is responsible for the expectation that women be clean shaven. Also, for the increasing male interest in anal sex.

In terms of technique, anal sex as presented in most straight porn is a recipe for disaster. Many (nilla) guys act like anal is the ultimate prize, but if you scratch beneath the surface you discover that many don't enjoy it that much when they actually end up doing it. Interestingly, I think the poor technique taught by porn is part of what makes so many women unwilling to try it more than once, if at all. So, porn simultaneously promotes and inhibits the act.

My favorite bad sex tip gleaned from porn involves cunnilingus. They pull the camera in close, but the man's chin is usually pulled away so the camera can catch the details, so it has this remote look to it. In real life... get your face in there buddy.




AnimusRex -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/30/2009 8:05:36 AM)

The dirty secret of porn is that there is a strong subtext of homoerotica to it. Not for nothing is the man's orgasm called the "money shot".
Gang bangs, bukkakke, facials, rimming, snowballing, cum swapping...wank fodder like these are all things that fixate almost exclusively on men's anatomy and plumbing.
Not surprisingly, a lot of male porn stars are actually gay or bi- either for pay or in orientation.




kittinSol -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/30/2009 9:45:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

The dirty secret of porn is that there is a strong subtext of homoerotica to it. Not for nothing is the man's orgasm called the "money shot".
Gang bangs, bukkakke, facials, rimming, snowballing, cum swapping...wank fodder like these are all things that fixate almost exclusively on men's anatomy and plumbing.
Not surprisingly, a lot of male porn stars are actually gay or bi- either for pay or in orientation.



Bingo. This is also why pornography is one of the least erotic mean of expression out there.




Justme696 -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/30/2009 10:03:58 AM)

*thinking uploud*

Some like porn, some like bdsm, some both lol




supportourtroops -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/30/2009 10:50:08 AM)

How true, how very true. Hetero porn is the least erotic to me it's about as arousing as watching a daytime soap opera.
For me the hottest porn has always been hard-core gay male porn...HOT, NASTY, EAST -COAST STYLE!!! I love those hard, nasty mouthed NJ, NY, gay male DOM's...smokin!
As for the females in hetero porn, you can skip writting me the grocery list we all already know it by heart..."oh my pussies so wet, ohhh your cock is so big, blah blah blah"
I had a DOM who told me a few times to watch porn and learn how to talk like them (as if I didn't already know) and I took it as a huge insult and more to the point wondered why he didn't like real, reality, me, my natural emotion or sound. I thought it was childish and rude. Especially in a sub state who has the frame of mind to remember script? How about you shut the hell up and let me float.
I would never want my DOM to act like something else, to fake the situation. In fact he doesn't even have to speak, the raw natural sound of his breathing is even enough to send me spinning because its REAL, it's him, it's what I evoke out of him, it can be all consuming to hear.
I would never try and direct anyones responses during sex, the beauty is seeing them unfold to you.

"Bitches Aren't Born, Their Made"




Forfaan -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/30/2009 1:23:21 PM)

i was a swinger for a number of years - never indulged in penetrative sex whilst on the scene, but did pretty much everything else.
Time after time i watched other men behaving like they believed studs did - no touching cuddling - just stick it in and wiggle it about.
I was later told by some of the women they hated that, the only person they wanted that kind of sex with was their partner, but they indulged others to keep the peace.
Net result most of the men fast asleep before midnignt - women playing cards and me - well still enjoying the 2 or 3 ladies who grabbed me as i came in.
Most of the women werent very good at sex either - being good at sex requires a degree of selfishness most of us arent capable of - and also of giving.
With very select friends the swinging scene brought me great comfort and indeed a spirituality i felt deeply - we were naked, men and women, first came comfort, then pleasure - then somewhere far away the idea of sex.




mnottertail -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/30/2009 1:29:13 PM)

if you want your man to watch porn that might be more in tune,

candida royale and that ilk are the way to go, perhaps.

Ron




AquaticSub -> RE: "You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex? (11/30/2009 1:33:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

The dirty secret of porn is that there is a strong subtext of homoerotica to it. Not for nothing is the man's orgasm called the "money shot".
Gang bangs, bukkakke, facials, rimming, snowballing, cum swapping...wank fodder like these are all things that fixate almost exclusively on men's anatomy and plumbing.
Not surprisingly, a lot of male porn stars are actually gay or bi- either for pay or in orientation.



Interesting. I have always heard the complete 180 of this in the documentaries I've watched and the people I've talked to. That most male porn stars, even in the gay porns, are completely straight.




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