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Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 9:02:15 AM

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Will the news that Mike Huckabee granted clemency to Maurice Clemmons rule out or doom any future run for the Republican nomination?
Clemmons was shot dead this morning by Seattle police...he was the suspected of executing 4 police officers in Lakewood ,Washington

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 9:10:11 AM

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He isn't going to make any headway as a law and order candidate, and republicans eat that shit up, so........

I doubt there will be a Huckabee/Dukakis ticket pac formed.

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 9:17:59 AM

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Huckabee, what a bleedin' heart! First, he believes in helping poor people, and now he's given a license to kill to a murderer.

He should join the Democrats

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 9:18:44 AM

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Seems his faith gets in the way of common sense...this isn't the first go round for Huckabee and questionable pardons.As Governor of Arkansas he pardoned or commuted sentences at a rate of twice as many times as his three predecessers combined.
Open up the prison doors for that many nconvicted felons....and someone else will wind up paying the price.With that sort of math its almost inevitable.

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 9:22:21 AM

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Remember Willie Horton ? He cannot run after this happened.

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 9:24:36 AM

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Damn! If Hucka can't run for president, the Republicans are well and truly doomed in 2012

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 9:27:32 AM

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Nah Kittin...the Baracuda is all warmed up in the bullpen.

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 9:42:26 AM

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Huckabee's won't be heard from again - other than as a reference for pardoning criminals. The ex-Arkansas governor said that Clemmons was a “misguided fool” when he committed the crimes and “learned through the school of hard knocks to appreciate and respect the rights of others.” Clemmons will forever be associated with Huckabee as Willie Horton was connected with Michael Dukakis. Another indication of the similarity between the parties.

Other repercussions? Well, I hope there isn't anyone with family or friends up for parole or pardon; isn't setting an extra plate for the holidays.

It will be an interesting dilemma to address by both camps in the death penalty / clemency debate. If his 108 year sentence wasn't commuted, 4 police officers would be planning to celebrate their holidays with their families instead of their families planning their funeral. But there are no 'bad' people in the world right? Only bad circumstances, poor upbringing, social injustice and other factors out of the control of the criminal. So Huckabee was doing the 'Christian' thing - forgiving and giving another chance. I guess that all qualifies him as a liberal. Could he change his party napkin color and run as a Democrat?

I remember a woman in Texas, Karla Faye Tucker, who killed a couple of people with a pick ax and played up her 'born again Christian' status to try and avoid the death penalty. Although clemency was denied, it raised a point that goes back to the Christian practice of the 'Inquisition'. Under the torture of living under a death sentence, the now renamed 'victim', recanted her past actions "accepted god in her life" and confessed to her sins. Fortunately, despite the cries from fellow Christians, born again or not, she was executed; with god in her heart and a pure, clean soul. As was the case of Winston Smith in the last page of Orwell's 1984; she should have been grateful to her executioner since she died with the unqualified belief in 'Big Brother' and all He represented as fact.

Not only is Huckabee a non-factor in future elections. He has done for 'Christian' forgiveness what the global warming religion has done to science.

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 10:49:29 AM

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Huckabee's won't be heard from again - other than as a reference for pardoning criminals.

Does the name Wayne Dumond ring any bells? Huckabee pushed for Dumond's sentence to be commuted. Dumond went on to rape and murder two women after his release. (Bonus style points, his release was contingent on him leaving the state of Arkansas, the rape and murders took place in Missouri). This was widely publicized prior to Huckabee taking first in Iowa. Hell, Huckabee still placed 2nd in Missouri (a few points behind McCain). That Huckabee made questionable decisions about releasing prisoners is NOT NEWS. Unless you're arguing that the death of police officers is somehow more tragic than the rape and murder of two women. Oh... wait. This is the republican party we're talking about.

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Not only is Huckabee a non-factor in future elections. He has done for 'Christian' forgiveness what the global warming religion has done to science.

Is there some kind of contest going on to see who can pack the most stupid into the fewest number of words? If so, please direct me to where I can vote for you.

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 10:56:56 AM

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Not only is Huckabee a non-factor in future elections. He has done for 'Christian' forgiveness what the global warming religion has done to science.

Is there some kind of contest going on to see who can pack the most stupid into the fewest number of words? If so, please direct me to where I can vote for you.

No - Based on this post alone - You WIN!
Here's your sign...

Congratulations!

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 11:11:41 AM

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I have the most charming image of you wearing an "I'm with stupid" arrow tshirt.

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 11:22:53 AM

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Mike, the fact that he's a right-wing *holy roller* does it for me. Of course I don't like left-wing *holy rollers* either.
And his last name, doesn't exactly roll off the tongue does it?
"Religion" should be kept out of govt.

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 11:23:47 AM

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I have the most charming image of you wearing an "I'm with stupid" arrow tshirt.

Really? How nice for you to want to see me wear that that shirt!

Your focus on me is flattering - but you walking beside me while wearing the shirt you suggest just isn't going to happen; no matter how accurate the image it would represent.

Although I do enjoy humiliation play! Well.... let me think about it, maybe if you buy the shirt and deliver it naked I'd consider it!

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 11:28:47 AM

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Mike, the fact that he's a right-wing *holy roller* does it for me. Of course I don't like left-wing *holy rollers* either.
And his last name, doesn't exactly roll off the tongue does it?
"Religion" should be kept out of govt.

Hang on a minute there: are you saying you've had a president since Nixon who wasn't a holy roller of one stripe or another? I think Reagan and the chimp were both born again.

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 11:36:10 AM

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Mike, the fact that he's a right-wing *holy roller* does it for me. Of course I don't like left-wing *holy rollers* either.
And his last name, doesn't exactly roll off the tongue does it?
"Religion" should be kept out of govt.

Hang on a minute there: are you saying you've had a president since Nixon who wasn't a holy roller of one stripe or another? I think Reagan and the chimp were both born again.

Moon, no, that's not what I'm saying.

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 11:45:14 AM

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I can see where you're coming from, but I get the impression there's a lot of your fellow countrymen who just want some cretin who's going to parrot a load of the crap the Religious right wants them to say. I think that was sarah palin's main selling point, wasn't it? Can't imagine what anybody else saw in her unless they liked her bum...

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 11:46:13 AM

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I think Reagan and the chimp were both born again.

Reagan wasn't born again. He just faked the Jesus shit in speeches.

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 11:47:56 AM

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I dunno: he does seem to be where creationism started coming back into the public schools, if nothing else.

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 11:48:09 AM

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So... I take it you haven't heard of Wayne Dumond?

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RE: Is Huckabee done as a Pres.candidate - 12/1/2009 11:50:35 AM

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Reagan certainly was unashamed to court that demographic, but I don't think he made much effort to appear deeply religious. He just let people project that onto him and never corrected it.

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