stella41b
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I'm going to respond to this as I am essentially a service type submissive, in fact it accounts for almost all my submission and motivation to submit and serve.
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ORIGINAL: MasterKing1
So here's the deal.
These very four words would be the kiss of death if you ever started out that way in dialogue with a service type submissive.
I'll tell you for why. You cannot properly serve anyone, anyone at all, until you know them well enough to know (1) their inner nature and personality, (2) intimately the way in which they live and (3) their preferences, tastes, likes and dislikes.
Developing any sort of relationship based on service takes a lot of time, it requires an open mind on both sides of the kneel, a lot of hard work and effort, and a great deal of patience.
I'm writing this as someone who is very well experienced in domestic service. So well versed and experienced that I have had no problems working in vanilla domestic cleaning situations for an hourly rate of £10 or more. But then again I'm lucky, I'm big enough to be strong enough to shift heavy objects like furniture, I have the physical stamina to spend a full 12 hour day cleaning, and I enjoy directed housework so much I devote a lot of time thinking, organizing, doing things in sequence or methodically and paying attention to details.
So much detail that I know for example that you dip a toothpick first in olive oil and lemon juice to remove the crap and dust from the threads of screws on the hinges of cupboards and joinings found holding the legs to a dining room table. I can look at the exact colour of a new potato and by the feel of it know whether it is suitable for mashed potatoes or for chips (or French fries if you prefer).
The reason why I am not working as a housekeeper or domestic cleaner is that I was trained formally as a maid of all work, as a servant, and people don't really look for servants these days. Most people who want you to clean for them expect you to turn up and know what to do just after being shown to the cupboard under the sink. You have to guess, and if you get it wrong they often won't ask you back.
Therefore please take my advice, if you're a dominant looking for a service type submissive the last thing you should be thinking about is the dynamic and the first thing ideally should be getting to know each other and working out how to communicate with each other. In fact forget the dynamic altogether. It works itself out naturally.
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ORIGINAL: MasterKing1
Domestic servitude is an aspect of D/s that alot of times goes hand in hand with all the others once a slave/submissive is collared.
But it isn't often that this particular preference is addressed.
That's because you're looking at service as just a component of the whole relationship. For quite a number of submissives you might find that service is a larger component. You need to look at this from a different perspective, i.e. from the occupation, the things you want doing, maybe a little direction and starting from there.
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ORIGINAL: MasterKing1
I've been looking around the message boards lately for anything related tot he subject but wasn't led to much. That's greatly of the reason I'm posting this one here, just wanted to get others feedback on the subject.
That's because most people on either side of the kneel expect some sort of emotional or sexual relationship tied to kinks and fetishes, which would make it appear that service type based relationships are a minority.
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ORIGINAL: MasterKing1
Are there any on here that seek servants for JUST the purpose of these activities? Or potential slave/subs whose focus lies mainly on these protocols?
Oddly enough, it isn't something you hear alot about on this site.
Yes there are, on both sides of the kneel. I'm an example on the submissive side of things. You also don't hear a lot about it not just because it takes a painstaking effort to build such a relationship but also because of the biggest issue of all - trust. Service type submissives do things for their dominants, such as housework and cleaning, which isn't good for interaction. But the trust issue is a big one, dominants need to be sure that they can leave a submissive in their home unsupervised without anything going missing, getting damaged, and that what they require doing is not only done but also done to the standard they expect.
From the submissive perspective trust is just as big an issue, they need to be sure that it's a two way relationship based on give and take and not just one where the submissive gives and the dominant takes. A service type relationship is in essence a symbiotic relationship where needs and expectations need to be met on both sides. I've lost count the number of offers I've received from dominants who expect me to work in their home living in and also go out to work and contribute financially to the household. Er, excuse me? You're getting essentially an unpaid live in full time domestic servant and you expect payment for board too?
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ORIGINAL: MasterKing1
Myself for instance, aside from my other interests I've been most specifically seeking a male charge to take the role of personal assistant and valet, preferably for an eventual full time position.
The pretty basic requirements would be implied: Acting as chauffeur, personal assistant at home and in public, bodyguard, butler as well as a number of other miscellaneous requirements. Just there to serve and offer assistance when needed or requested.
Appearing pretty entirely as hired help to the public, and in the home cleaning, cooking and offering massages..seeing to personal wants and the like.
And sexual use of course, no one can mention BDSM without thoughts of a sexual nature fleeting across the mind..But according to the former requirements listed above, it's hardly the priority.
Though searching on and off for months now hasn't turned up much.
But what can you offer in return? It really is a two way street. For example I served in a Victorian lifestyle household as their full time live in maid a couple of years back and they offered me everything - a room, food, expenses and the chance to live in a Victorian lifestyle BDSM household.
Very few people today are prepared to consider anything without knowing what the payoff is going to be. That's the way the world runs and it's no different here in the community.
And especially when you're seeking a service type submissive. It's trade, pure and simple.
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