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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 2:54:02 AM   
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My first Domme was married and two UM's.  Everyone did some chore.  I did the chores that were primarily the most distasteful to my Domme and her husband.  Grown ups doing housework in front of UM's is no big deal, provided the UM's are doing their fair share and not sitting on their butts watching you do all the work.

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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 8:50:36 AM   
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doing chores and cleaning is not kink.i have done many chores in front of my Mistress um and even her greand child. now play had to either be somewhere else or after there bedtime.


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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 10:53:37 AM   
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Please dont take it personally. i just wouldnt be a slave to a married Woman or to someone who at least has a partner and You need a partner to create children in the first place, now if the Woman has no children but wishes to have some that would be different, if its done in the context of a loving marriage and You are the husband thats Your own business but for me to come into a relationship and be a slave to a married Woman or partnered Woman already, no i just dont think its correct for me to do that, the same as it is none of my businesss what a Woman's private domestic arrangement, kids no kids etc, in work, it is not my business to interfere in an already set up relationship and i would think i would be interfering, it also i think gives kids the wrong message, they have one Daddy , one Mammy, and ok people do do work around the house but the idea that someone comes in and works for nothing and that Mammy is a slave owner which is the direct message, no i dont think its right, like i say let them make up their own mind when they are older, there is plenty of information out there and it is likely to become more and more acceptable as time goes by certainly by the time those kids are adults and wish to become either Doms/Dommes or slaves or subs etc it is likely to be very mainstream
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Why are you making such a big deal out of 'working for nothing'? Ok, obviously housework isn't your thing, but since I am submissive, I don't view tasks assigned to me as 'them getting their way while I get nothing.'

And stop projecting your kink onto innocent children. I'm barely an adult myself, and I never once thought the men Mom had over every now and then were her 'slaves' even though I witnessed them helping her around the house, and one even came over to redo our floor in the kitchen. None of my friends thought it was weird, and I still don't think it's weird and don't even think they were involved in some kind of D/s dynamic.
Is it really that distasteful to you that people HELP one another?

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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 11:53:28 AM   
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Im all for helping other people. Just wait till the kids grow up or are old enough to understand meaning maybe 14 and above. Kids around that age are probably into at least meeting up with girls/boys etc and they will get to know what its about. Kids below that age no, im sorry but kids do know when something is strange and how do you for example explain to five or six year old that their Mammy gets  jobs done for free. Kids talk too and what do you say to a kid who for example finds out that his Mammy gets things done for free and his friends Mammy gets things done but pays for it. Its just too messy.  What if the kid notices that the strange man has bruises on his back or is wearing something funny.  They will begin to put two and two together. Im sorry but it could even be construed as child abuse your exposing kids to kink when they are not ready for it, not to mention the fact that kids need stability, at best they might think they have two daddies and then wonder why other kids dont have two daddies. No its just too complicated, it wouldnt work, too risky
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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 11:56:14 AM   
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In a way im really surprised that the Moderator is allowing this discussion. i mean arent kids supposed to be off limits on these boards, meaning that all mention of kids, other people's kids, dommes kids, domestic arrangement of Dommes etc is not appropriate for an adult forum. Are people's private lives not supposed to be just that private
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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 12:13:04 PM   
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quote:

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In a way im really surprised that the Moderator is allowing this discussion. i mean arent kids supposed to be off limits on these boards, meaning that all mention of kids, other people's kids, dommes kids, domestic arrangement of Dommes etc is not appropriate for an adult forum. Are people's private lives not supposed to be just that private
Kevin



If it bothers you so much that this is a topic you were free from the beginning not to participate in it. Evidently the moderators and most of the participants in the thread consider this to be a topic which mentions children and non kinky subject matter- which is obviously allowed since the thread is still standing. Just because the person getting the cleaning is a Domme and the person doing the cleaning is a submissive it does not mean they are engaging in anything kinky.
It's just cleaning....

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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 12:23:24 PM   
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yea, litzi, but i do understand lobo's confusion. I have seen threads on 'why the kid in front of me at church annoyed me and why can't people raise their kids right? removed from offtopic becaause kids were mentioned. I have seen threads about kids in the news removed because kids were mentioned. It does look lately as if CM is rethinking the strictness with which they hold to the 'never mention that short people share the planet with us' rule.

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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 12:24:55 PM   
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quote:

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But then again i have so alienated myself from Dommes on this site that i doubt anyone of them would see me as a catch. Who wants someone who constantly sneezes and finds it sexy after all, amnt i a swine flu hazard. Laughs
Kevin



Chin up, Kevin!

I'm not the only one who's noticed that you've been changing for the better, lately.

I vote for a new screen name, for you. One that would reflect your strengths. This would help us all delineate between the old and the the emerging new you.

To the OP: Seems like you're upset because you want to be all turned on while you're doing the housework, and children being around doesn't fit with your plan. So that's fine- just don't do it then. Or only do it when the children aren't around, so you can feel all sexy. Get on the same page with your dom about it, well beforehand. Problem solved.


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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 12:55:23 PM   
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No its being Dommed before domme's children. Asking about the domestic which this discussion implies is none of our business really. What people do in their own home and whether they involve their kids in it and to what degree is private. I agree with tsatske there should be no ambiguity here either allow discussion surrounding children or dont but there should nt be cherry picking and it seems there is. If it is wrong to discuss a person's domestic situation, it is wrong. I know its wrong in the work place. If its ok to do it here then by all means but please dont then turn around and say its out of order to ask about domestics. it either is or isnt. Why the moderator is not stepping in at this point is amazing to me. Over to Moderator. It s fair with everyone if everyone knows that the kids line is not to be crossed but since it has been does that mean its ok to ask people about their families or exchange information about one's family on this forum if one so wishes. Again clarification from the Moderator on this would be appreciated. The silence here from the Moderator speaks volumes. Either She is disinterested or She herself  thinks it s ok to talk about people's kids

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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 12:58:11 PM   
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Folks, we have several threads which are far more friendly and lighthearted than this one, in which the fact that some of us have children, and some of the antics they get up to and the issues and love we have regarding them, is mentioned freely. It's all about context.

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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 1:09:23 PM   
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It maybe Christmas spirit and all that but if it is wrong for January to ask a Woman about her Domestic situation and its wrong for every other month then its wrong for Christmas. Simple as. Coversely if its ok to do it here on this forum for Christmas why not have a free for all and do it all year round. It s a simple choice but I know Women wont tolerate it in the workplace, its harassment, so why tolerate it here.
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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 1:10:41 PM   
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And in my opinion rightly so it is not tolerated in the workplace , it has nothing to do with work if the Woman is married divorced or separated for four years . It is simply not a co workers business
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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 1:16:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

i just wouldnt be a slave to a married Woman or to someone who at least has a partner and You need a partner to create children in the first place,


At what point did the OP ever indicate that this woman was married? As for needing a partner to creat children....You have heard of divorce? Artificial insemination?

quote:

ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

to come into a relationship and be a slave to a married Woman or partnered Woman already, ..... it is not my business to interfere in an already set up relationship and i would think i would be interfering,



Again, what has led you to believe there is another relationship?

quote:

ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

it also i think gives kids the wrong message, they have one Daddy , one Mammy, and ok people do do work around the house but the idea that someone comes in and works for nothing and that Mammy is a slave owner which is the direct message, no i dont think its right,



Since when do small children know that much about the finances of the family? How would they ever develop the idea that "mammy" was a slave owner or that work was done for free?

quote:

ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

Im all for helping other people. Just wait till the kids grow up or are old enough to understand meaning maybe 14 and above. Kids around that age are probably into at least meeting up with girls/boys etc and they will get to know what its about. Kids below that age no, im sorry but kids do know when something is strange and how do you for example explain to five or six year old that their Mammy gets jobs done for free. Kids talk too and what do you say to a kid who for example finds out that his Mammy gets things done for free and his friends Mammy gets things done but pays for it. Its just too messy. What if the kid notices that the strange man has bruises on his back or is wearing something funny. They will begin to put two and two together. Im sorry but it could even be construed as child abuse your exposing kids to kink when they are not ready for it, not to mention the fact that kids need stability, at best they might think they have two daddies and then wonder why other kids dont have two daddies. No its just too complicated, it wouldnt work, too risky
Kevin




Do you live under a rock? People get divorced and remarried all the time, which results in children having "two daddies." Even then the fact is that a child who has an "involved" daddy has only one daddy. Mommies and daddies who are divorced have "special friends" all the time. It isn't child abuse, it isn't sending the wrong message, and it isn't all that complicated.

By your theory, women who find themselves suddenly the single parent of small children should not even consider dating or finding someone to love until the children are grown and that's just plain ridiculous. I'm all for people not being comfortable entering into a relationship with someone who has children. It is their right to have their preference and quite honestly, if I didn't have a child of my own, I probably wouldn't want to be involved with someone who did. But to imply that one who has children should forego looking for, meeting, getting involved with anyone, kinky or not until the children are grown is just ludicrous. Yes, children need a stable environment. They also need their parents to be happy and to have their own interests. The worst children I have ever seen (behavior wise) are the children of those parents who put their lives completely on the back burner and focus solely on their children. Yes, we need to make adjustments for our children, and in most cases, the kids needs come first. But they don't come first when mommy or daddy has to work and can't play "room parent" or go on a class trip, or any of the multitude of other things where there needs to be a realistic balance.

As parents, we want to be the best parents that we can be, but it is very unhealthy to have no interests or activities outside of being parents. And let's not forget, if children are so wise to all the "weird" things that parents do (and believe me, 7 and under would find sex VERY weird, no matter how it was done), why do we have couples with multiple children? No one would even think to say that those parents were remiss in their parental duties, even if they got pregnant during the little one's nap time.

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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 1:17:36 PM   
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I do house work in front of my children on a normal basis, that isn't involving them in my kink. In fact my children do chores themselves, it teaches them responsibilitity and how to care for their house when they do move out on their own.

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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 1:19:49 PM   
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You wanted a moderators opinion, how about admin's instead? There is nothing wrong about talking about theory and housework; the only one toeing the line about TOS is you because of some of the physical signs you are assuming the sub would be displaying. Keep those outta the discussion, and it's good to go to talk about....k?

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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 1:25:49 PM   
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Well divorce is even messier and i know it happens. But particularly if a person is divorced isnt there enough upheaval already without subjecting the kids to another partner.  As for interests by all means.  But why should it involve a strange man who is not related to the kids and who does work for no payment or worse still pays Mammy to be around Her. Kid s would find that  strange particularly if Mammy does not work and takes payments off men for work done in house. Interests could include with young kids, going on holidays, trips to the zoo, golf, pitch and putt, going to the beach. And by all means go for evening classes go to university etc. Don t put your life on hold no way. But do it in a manner that most kids think is right socially. If word got round that Mammy was a money merchant and did no work but lived off male payments, what is kid to think, what is Mammy teaching kid, you can get very wealthy in life by doing nothing, just acquire a number of male friends and they will pay for your livelihood in exchange for work duties that male has to do. What message is that sending to a kid/ Not right in my view
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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 1:27:36 PM   
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Thank you for the clarification
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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 1:29:32 PM   
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Ignore my last message. It s ok to involve kids in kink. Admin said so. It s also ok to ask about domestic arrangements of others in this forum. It s not ok to ask about domestic arrangement of others in real life but in this forum its open season
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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 1:31:17 PM   
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Wow, I dont think thats what I said. Care to re read my comments?

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RE: Being dommed before Domme's children - 12/6/2009 1:32:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

In a way im really surprised that the Moderator is allowing this discussion. i mean arent kids supposed to be off limits on these boards, meaning that all mention of kids, other people's kids, dommes kids, domestic arrangement of Dommes etc is not appropriate for an adult forum. Are people's private lives not supposed to be just that private
Kevin


Why not read the Forum Guidelines is a great suggestion.It helps show you what is allowed.

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