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ORIGINAL: Laymedown60
He could have got his gun...called the police... moved near the door...then in a loud voice say the Police are on the way get out... He would have run for their door to get away... he still would not have known the exact location of Orion and if he tried to use his gun he would still be at a disadvantage.

Common sense says he would run...you asked for a good alternative this is it...but of course not good enough for you I'm sure because you can never be wrong.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

lets agree to revisit the subject the next time some kid takes the family weapon to school and starts shooting up his classroom.

Good idea. And while we're at it, the next time some drunk wipes out a family of four, which is likely to be a lot sooner, we can argue for prohibiting the manufacture and sale of alcohol too. In fact, why wait for a drunk to do it? Cars are more dangerous than guns, even without drunks driving them. People who care about human life really need to get behind us on this. We're murdering children on our roads!!

And then, let's see, theres......

K.

The just for shits and grins fun lets look up the statistics on accidental fatal shootings of children with their fathers’ right to own unnecessary handgun firearms.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
No Loki,thats your interpetation of what a school shooting "says"...In some quarters a school shooting speaks to the ready availability of firearms in our society...the fact that you and those who think like you would choose to ignore that part of it says more about head in the sand syndrome ...but it is what I have come to expect from the gun crowd.
See you in a couple of weeks.....and oh yeah....thats a when....not an if!!!!! 

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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Nooooooooo. I fucking love olives!

Ugh. I loath the things - which is why I tossed them into the list (I've long been of the opinion that if you are going to fantasize, you might as well go for it). But I don't think you have to worry, I doubt either human stupidity or olives will disappear from the earth any time soon.

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda
Go ahead. I'd certainly be interested in seeing it. Definitely more topical than a lot of the other offerings here thus far.

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ORIGINAL: Laymedown60
You are not paying attention...he would do this before confronting him...remember he stalked him down and know his location before the perk did.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
No Loki,thats your interpetation of what a school shooting "says"...In some quarters a school shooting speaks to the ready availability of firearms in our society...the fact that you and those who think like you would choose to ignore that part of it says more about head in the sand syndrome ...but it is what I have come to expect from the gun crowd.
See you in a couple of weeks.....and oh yeah....thats a when....not an if!!!!! 

Yeah, in the incorrect quarters it speaks to the availability of guns. But thanks for proving my point on the need for education.

You see, someone who will shoot up a school will do other things, as well. The columbine kids brought homemade bombs too, ones that can be made easily with innocent, store-bought items.

So let's talk about availability in the school scenario for a moment. The law-abiding ones who obey the sign on the school door are nothing but targets to someone willing to break the law.

Now, were they able to have their own guns for defense, perhaps they could stop the shooter.

But as I said first, it *does* speak more about parenting because for a kid to reach the point where a school shooting is a good idea, the ball was dropped long before he gets a hold of the gun.

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ORIGINAL: Laymedown60

You are not paying attention...he would do this before confronting him...remember he stalked him down and know his location before the perk did.

Laymedown

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ORIGINAL: Laymedown60
He could have got his gun...called the police... moved near the door...then in a loud voice say the Police are on the way get out... He would have run for their door to get away... he still would not have known the exact location of Orion and if he tried to use his gun he would still be at a disadvantage.

Common sense says he would run...you asked for a good alternative this is it...but of course not good enough for you I'm sure because you can never be wrong.

Hang on a sec. This is the guy who with a drawn .40 S&W pointing at him, refused to raise his hands when ordered to and then went for the .380 in his pocket rather than surrender? You're expecting him to use common sense and run because someone said in a loud voice "the police are on the way"? You honestly think he'd run when threatened with the possibility the police might arrive - despite the fact that with a gun pointed at his head he chose to go for his own gun?

I honestly have no idea what this guy might have done if told the police were called - his actions don't seem particualrly rational and since it appears he broke into the wrong house he's probably not the brightest bulb in the Christmas tree - but I wouldn't bet anyone's life that he'd act rationally or sanely under any circumstances.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
So your another member of the "more guns in schools will reduce school shootings" crowd.This is the scariest part of this discussion.....the relative inteligence of this crowd is frightening.
Tell me something Loki,hows that Mensa society membership going?

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b
I would also like assurance that all of the following will be removed:

Kinves
Blunt objects
Molotove cocktails
Really strong guys with bulging muscles
Human agression
Human hatred
Human stupidity
Olives

If society can accomplish all that then I will gladly beat my twelve guage into a plow shoare.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
So your another member of the "more guns in schools will reduce school shootings" crowd.This is the scariest part of this discussion.....the relative inteligence of this crowd is frightening.
Tell me something Loki,hows that Mensa society membership going?

I would ask you the same question, however with your level of reading comprehension, and the fact that you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're," you would be more of a candidate for repeating the third grade than you would be for mensa.

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ORIGINAL: Laymedown60

I think you are... I said in my post he should have called the police the first thing before he took his gun and went looking for the perk...

Now don't make the mistake of many and think I am criticizing... Panda asked for an alternative that would have worked. I gave him one.

Butch