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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/10/2009 9:45:38 AM

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At least Glen Beck will never dumb himself down to metch his Tea Partier audience.... He doesn't have to.

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/10/2009 12:43:33 PM

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Why are some people so afraid of "Fox News?"
Yet, they believe every word that the "Moonbat Gazette" (The N.Y. Times) publishes? Isn't that called being "closed minded?"
I like to watch news that gives *all* points of view.
Wouldn't you think that "All Moonbat, All the Time" would get awfully boring?

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/10/2009 2:41:06 PM

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Why are some people so afraid of "Fox News?"

who is a afraid of them? this isnt even an EVIL FOX NEWS!!! thread, its simply about the fact that fox news itself believes its average viewer to be stupid so patronises them. which would be a ratings disaster I'd imagine if not for the fact that its not patronising if you're not that bright.

I'd have loved to have seen that womans face the first time in a production meeting she was going to have to pretend to be a simpleton.

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/10/2009 2:43:57 PM

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Loki, have you ever watched MSNBC or any of the "network" "news" shows?

I watch a variety of shows. It just depends on what's on and what I feel like watching. Most of my news comes from the 'net, though, with an equally diverse grouping of sites.

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/10/2009 2:50:59 PM

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As to stuff I post- if anything it is thought inspiring.

For conspiracy theorists, maybe. For rational people, no.

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My sarcastic post here was a jab- over the NSA post - where the price list of yahoo, Verizon and others were leaked.

You think? Are you sure? Thanks for the blinding news flash. I hadn't guessed that (especially since you used the exact same reference I used in that thread, hence *my* jab at your lack of originality.)

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What happens when the wrong people get your Internet data? Lifes can be wrecked. Some corporation is mining that data-= and "I" am the "lunatic"....

Bad people can access your computer at will. It doesn't take a corporation. All it takes is a decent hacker. Hell, I'm not even a hacker and I have shown people the ease at which their information can be found. Corporations use info for profit, big shock. There are also easy ways around that and legal recourse if they persist. If a hacker gets your info, on the other hand, you're fucked. Good luck taking legal action *if* you can even find him.

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One day you might see a post of mine that you wished you had further explored.

Not likely. But hey, there's even a chance a meteor can hit the earth tomorrow. It's a ridiculously small chance, but a chance nonetheless.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
It was mean spirited of me to carry this jab into this thread. I apologize for that. Either way- today is a new day. So we go forward.

I don't give a rat's ass about where you carry your jabs. You should apologize for a glaring lack of originality. I could care less who takes shots at me.

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/10/2009 4:37:29 PM

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At least Glen Beck will never dumb himself down to metch his Tea Partier audience.... He doesn't have to.

I thought Fox news was just an advertising medium for Glenn Becks other avenues of interest.

I wrote this play called the Christmas trousers, available soon!!! Below is an extract...

'It's the wrong trousers Gromit!'

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/11/2009 2:59:32 PM

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Loki, have you ever watched MSNBC or any of the "network" "news" shows?

I watch a variety of shows. It just depends on what's on and what I feel like watching. Most of my news comes from the 'net, though, with an equally diverse grouping of sites.

I watch a variety of shows too including Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and Cnbc the business channel.
I also get a lot from Yahoo. I try to get news from a lot of sources before making up my mind on an issue.
It's funny, whenever I hear someone badmouthing "Fox t.v." or "Faux" as some of them spell it, I assume that they're a Moonbat and sure enough, nine times out of ten they are! It's just a matter of time before they start with the "global warming" crap.

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/11/2009 3:46:57 PM

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I watch a variety of shows too including Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and Cnbc the business channel.
I also get a lot from Yahoo. I try to get news from a lot of sources before making up my mind on an issue.
It's funny, whenever I hear someone badmouthing "Fox t.v." or "Faux" as some of them spell it, I assume that they're a Moonbat and sure enough, nine times out of ten they are! It's just a matter of time before they start with the "global warming" crap.

I bad mouth fox news *and* global warming. If the globe were warmer, there wouldn't be a freakin' ice age happening in the midwest right now. And it wouldn't be in the freakin' teens here in Dallas.

Global warming my ass.

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/11/2009 5:44:10 PM

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Dedicated, thanks for the laugh. That clip was great.

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/11/2009 5:52:35 PM

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I guess we don't need to point out Obama's adoption of black patois when he's addressing a predominantly black audience, do we?

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/11/2009 5:59:44 PM

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I'd forgotten about that. I guess that means that in addition to George W. Bush, Barack Obama is also very comparable to FOX News...

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/11/2009 6:26:18 PM

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Commercial TV really is a simple business; what is most important is to attract the highest numbers of viewers possible so that advertisers will be more willing to part with money in greater amounts to advertise on your channel than any other's rival channel. To attract the highest numbers of viewers possible, one must tailor the content presented to the highest number of potential viewers.

Overall, your post was absolutely outstanding.

But I don't agree with this one statement. Sure, Commercial TV may have started out that way, and a number of cable channels still are about viewers and money. Not so much the news channels, though. As money makers, all of them are dead. News reporting has ceased to be a profitable business a long time ago. The only thing news reporting has going for it from a business standpoint is that it is a lot cheaper to produce than live-action shows. But it doesn't draw many viewers. That's even more true for Fox; they've been shedding viewers left and right. Except for extreme right (CNN and MSNBC have also lost some viewers). I don't have their advertiser numbers, but I expect that Fox has far fewer and/or cheaper commercials than the other channels.

So why keep a loser like that? Simple: propaganda. Fox is owned by an Australian(*) billionaire with plenty of income from other business venues, and with a very explicit agenda - not just in the USA, by the way, but world wide. He has used his media empire for political goals since the early 1970s in Australia. He has very close ties to Margaret Thatcher, George Bush and Kevin Rudd and other extremist politicians.

I don't think he cares if Fox News makes money or loses money, and I don't even think he cares if he loses the majority of his viewers, as long as he can spread his message into the minds of the 10% of hardcore TV viewers who still are watching Fox.

(*) He did become a naturalized US citizen in order to evade US rules on TV station ownership.

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/11/2009 6:40:22 PM

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That's even more true for Fox; they've been shedding viewers left and right. Except for extreme right (CNN and MSNBC have also lost some viewers).

Fact check (ie again you dont know wtf youre talking about)

January 2009:

P2+ Prime Time
FNC – 2,562,000 viewers
CNN—967,000 viewers
MSNBC –1,283,000 viewers
CNBC – 246,000 viewers
HLN – 900,000 viewers

December 2009:

FNC – 2,382,000 viewers
CNN – 623,000 viewers
MSNBC –693,000 viewers
CNBC – a scratch w/123,000 viewers
HLN –734,000 viewers

Now who exactly is losing viewers en masse? Do I need to do the math for you?

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I don't have their advertiser numbers, but I expect that Fox has far fewer and/or cheaper commercials than the other channels.

Then you better change your expectations:

Cable News - Net Ad Revenue*
2000-2008, in Millions of Dollars

Channel 2000 2001  2002   2003   2004 2005   2006   2007    2008 
CNN & HLN    412.8 445.9  359.8  399.2 317.4 375.9 399.0  427.5   556.3 
Fox News        51.2 59.9    109.8  208.6 257.0 345.3 388.3  459.2   566.9 
MSNBC         138.8 115.7    98.4  113.1 111.0 106.4 116.6  135.4   172.7

Source: SNL Kagan, a division of SNL Financial LLC
*Note: Net Ad Revenue refers to revenue generated after discounting the commission that goes to advertising agencies. Figures for 2008 are projections.

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/11/2009 7:24:40 PM

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As to stuff I post- if anything it is thought inspiring.

For conspiracy theorists, maybe. For rational people, no.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
My sarcastic post here was a jab- over the NSA post - where the price list of yahoo, Verizon and others were leaked.

You think? Are you sure? Thanks for the blinding news flash. I hadn't guessed that (especially since you used the exact same reference I used in that thread, hence *my* jab at your lack of originality.)

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What happens when the wrong people get your Internet data?    Lifes can be wrecked.   Some corporation is mining that data-= and "I" am the "lunatic"....

Bad people can access your computer at will. It doesn't take a corporation. All it takes is a decent hacker. Hell, I'm not even a hacker and I have shown people the ease at which their information can be found. Corporations use info for profit, big shock. There are also easy ways around that and legal recourse if they persist. If a hacker gets your info, on the other hand, you're fucked. Good luck taking legal action *if* you can even find him.

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One day you might see a post of mine that you wished you had further explored.

Not likely. But hey, there's even a chance a meteor can hit the earth tomorrow. It's a ridiculously small chance, but a chance nonetheless.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
It was mean spirited of me to carry this jab into this thread. I apologize for that.   Either way- today is a new day. So we go forward.

I don't give a rat's ass about where you carry your jabs. You should apologize for a glaring lack of originality. I could care less who takes shots at me.

I withdraw my apology.

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/11/2009 8:21:21 PM

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As to stuff I post- if anything it is thought inspiring.

For conspiracy theorists, maybe. For rational people, no.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
My sarcastic post here was a jab- over the NSA post - where the price list of yahoo, Verizon and others were leaked.

You think? Are you sure? Thanks for the blinding news flash. I hadn't guessed that (especially since you used the exact same reference I used in that thread, hence *my* jab at your lack of originality.)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
What happens when the wrong people get your Internet data?    Lifes can be wrecked.   Some corporation is mining that data-= and "I" am the "lunatic"....

Bad people can access your computer at will. It doesn't take a corporation. All it takes is a decent hacker. Hell, I'm not even a hacker and I have shown people the ease at which their information can be found. Corporations use info for profit, big shock. There are also easy ways around that and legal recourse if they persist. If a hacker gets your info, on the other hand, you're fucked. Good luck taking legal action *if* you can even find him.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
One day you might see a post of mine that you wished you had further explored.

Not likely. But hey, there's even a chance a meteor can hit the earth tomorrow. It's a ridiculously small chance, but a chance nonetheless.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
It was mean spirited of me to carry this jab into this thread. I apologize for that.   Either way- today is a new day. So we go forward.

I don't give a rat's ass about where you carry your jabs. You should apologize for a glaring lack of originality. I could care less who takes shots at me.

I withdraw my apology.

POTY!

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/11/2009 11:27:34 PM

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I don't like wasting my time listening to lies and Bullshit = Fox news

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/11/2009 11:29:12 PM

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The evidence for global warming is overwhelming and you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground!

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/11/2009 11:40:02 PM

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/11/2009 11:57:17 PM

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Why are some people so afraid of "Fox News?"
Yet, they believe every word that the "Moonbat Gazette" (The N.Y. Times) publishes? Isn't that called being "closed minded?"

It's the difference between news and tabloid journalism, which Fox has taken to new lows.

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RE: Fox News anchors dumbing down for their audience - 12/12/2009 12:44:04 AM

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I'm pretty sure you know exactly who she is, and the reason we should care is we have a vast audience of Fox News viewers who are now convinced that an unbiased poll adds up to 120%.

Really?....You think you are the only one that picked up on that? A bit grandiose of you to think you are the only one who can discern bullshit from reality.

Not grandiose at all.

And since it was clearly stated by Stewart in the video it wasn't hard to pick up.

I was just curious how many Fox devotees started to wonder about "fair and balanced" when the network's journalistic standards are so low they would air a poll with math errors that a third-grader would "pick up on".

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