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Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/3/2004 6:34:35 PM

PranksterBitch

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Ok pervs .. let's put it on the table. This site has the same issues as b.com. We are an alternative lifestyle. Alternative .. different .. unconventional .. and that should cause a fair amount of empathy to develope concerning the judging of others.

I honestly don't give a shit what people say about me, but I've seen plenty of others truly hurt and abused just because their views are not the norm. Ehem ... there is no normal in this lifestyle .. so what gives? Are you open minded or do you have issues?

I have a few. I don't like dominants who have to flaunt their power or abuse submissives to get their ego stroked. I cannot stand those without a sense of humor. But for the most part, peoples kinks are peoples kinks and it's all good as long as no one is hurt.

So are you open minded or not?

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/3/2004 6:35:59 PM

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/3/2004 6:42:40 PM

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I was told once if I was too open minded, my brains would fall out.
I wonder how much truth there is to that. *shrugs*

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/3/2004 7:09:05 PM

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So are you open minded or not?

I believe just how open minded I am is a question of perception. From my perception, I am perhaps the one of the greater free-thinkers in my real life, day-to-day environment. I think the people in my environment would agree with me.

That doesn't mean I have issues. We all have issues.The choice we have however is to not our issues get in the way of living and letting others live.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/3/2004 7:17:24 PM

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Are you open minded or do you have issues?

I have become very openminded and accepting in the last 5 yrs since i learned about this lifestyle. Before that i didn't really understand much about alternative lifestyles. It has been a real eye opener for a girl raised in a very protective family and private girls school. Oh if my classmates could see me now LOL. I am probably the last one they would expect to have these interests.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/3/2004 7:24:12 PM

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Greetings,

i'm not really sure there's a good way to answer this question. You can't see me and You can't know what i'm like so i could sit here and say that i'm one helluva open-minded, opposable thumb enabled, genuis dog. *shrugs*

Throughout my life i've also found that people who expound on just how wonderfully non-judgemental they are also happen to be some of the most prejudiced. These same people were more than likely sharing some little tale about just what so and so did on such and such occassion five minutes prior to regaling me with their examples of Jesus induced acceptance. (sorry to my fellow Christians out there but like i said, this is just in my experience).

Personally, yes...i do see myself as somewhat open-minded. Most things don't faze me.

Example: i'm not an extreme masochist and have actually never participated in any sort of very heavy play. However, i was speaking with a switch who i might be interesting in meeting and switching with in time. He described one of his ultimate fantasies (which would take place after undergoing a urethral relocation) in which he would be impaled, ridden & used before being having the first layer of skin on his penis cut and skinned down (and then later sewn back up). *shrugs* told him that first of all i wasn't experienced at heavy play and would definitely need to learn so i'd know what was safe or not, that i didn't know enough to know if what he described was relatively safe but that on first thought i could do the impalement - as for the other stuff, just not sure if i'd be able to manage it.

On the other hand....there are things i'm not open-minded about. Example, stupid people piss me off.....desperate people that can't take no for an answer piss me off....racist bigots piss me off.....the list goes on.

Closing sentiment - everyone has their pet peeves that trigger undesirable reactions and the only way one can truly judge a person's true character is spending time interacting with them.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/3/2004 8:17:33 PM

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Are you saying that you've seen people hurt and abused on this site? If that's the case, they may need to get a thicker skin.
It can get a bit spirited and heated on the message boards, but that is what makes it so enjoyable. Just because someone may disagree with someone else doesn't mean that they are being intolerant. Does anyone really want these boards to be about ass kissing and schmoozing? After all, what better way to learn than to have everyone else tell you how stupid you are?

This isn't college, where any crazy idea goes unchallenged. If you feel strongly about something, put it out there. And take as good as you give.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/3/2004 8:32:48 PM

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Double dare what Estring said.......................

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/3/2004 11:09:58 PM

LadyShoshin

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quote:

ORIGINAL: PranksterBitch

Ok pervs .. let's put it on the table. This site has the same issues as b.com. We are an alternative lifestyle. Alternative .. different .. unconventional .. and that should cause a fair amount of empathy to develope concerning the judging of others.

I honestly don't give a shit what people say about me, but I've seen plenty of others truly hurt and abused just because their views are not the norm. Ehem ... there is no normal in this lifestyle .. so what gives? Are you open minded or do you have issues?

I have a few. I don't like dominants who have to flaunt their power or abuse submissives to get their ego stroked. I cannot stand those without a sense of humor. But for the most part, peoples kinks are peoples kinks and it's all good as long as no one is hurt.

So are you open minded or not?

I differentiate between open mindedness and nonjudmentalism. As a social service worker being nonjudgemental was drummed into us. Fortunately I grew up having a handle on respecting people with differences.
I am not open minded when it comes to religions and politics that do more harm than good, or people who use people and discard them, people who harm children or those unable to defend themselves. I am not open minded when someone is harming my family.
However, someone whose politics, ethnicity, spirituality or lifestyle is different than mine go into making up the tapestry of life. If all the threads were one color or only woven in a single pattern, the tapestry would be useful as a wall covering, but there would be no beauty or depth to it.
I much prefer to live in a world of color, interesting patterns and depth.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/3/2004 11:18:37 PM

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In order to be open minded, you have to work to be aware of when you are not open minded. Those like the "Jesus" example have convinced themselves the work is done and thus they are incapable of truly being open-minded.

Leto

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/4/2004 12:18:16 AM

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Define open minded. If you mean that others will nod and say "you are so right" when they disagree with you. Then no, I am not open minded. Will I defend your right to HAVE an opinion different than mine, then yes, I am open minded. Life is the ultimate challenge. Either you stand your ground or fold. Myself I will always stand my ground, and that prankster means I will strive to be articulate and present my argument with as much class and intelligence as I can, without stomping on someone elses right to a different view. Variety is the spice of life. Live it, don't sit on the side lines and say "I could have been a contender". This is a typed text on a computer, if I don't like what is being typed I simply block the person. If I see that a discussion is not interesting or IMO useless I don't go to that thread. If I feel it is going to aggravate me, there is always the off switch.Sundew

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/4/2004 12:46:37 AM

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I'm pretty set in my beliefs... a quirky as they may seem...

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/4/2004 4:11:02 AM

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I am very open minded and believe each of us have that right to be if we choose. I believe in poly ,open relationships,open marriages and same sex marriges. I believe we each have the right to choose. I wish I was allowed the right to persue my open poly style family to the fullest but at this time Master has put a hold on that. He says when His desires are fullfilled then I will be allowed my boy or boys I desire.I have always been the person who believed in loving more then one and that it can be done. I will not judge others for their beliefs for it is part of what makes this lifestyle so wonderful.

Waiting for Frances to make up her mind and blow on by,

shy

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/4/2004 8:13:46 AM

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Being open minded has nothing to do with your ability to have your own opinions and the ability/desire to defend them.

I am a very judgemental person. I have my ideas that I am working on, and if someone goes against my beliefs well their just WRONG!! cause if they were right it would conflict with what I am programming myself. Sometimes, when a person says that inside, it slips out of their heads and either in their conversation or emails,etc.

I am also a very open person. (I don't like the term open-minded cause it makes me think of brains). I am very accepting of new ideas, new practices, etc. I am very accepting of people as well. I realize their opinion may differ from mine (which is just WRONG). That is never held against someone personally. I don't consider someone to be a bad person because they are different.

thank you for reading this, have a great day,

pixie

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/4/2004 8:47:15 AM

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Considering how i live my life and all the negotiations between Thorns and i....i would say that i am a very open minded individual.....do i have issues? pffttt...everyone has a few.

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I've seen plenty of others truly hurt and abused just because their views are not the norm.

Do you mean from online? or is this something you see r/t or both? if it's online...who the hell cares about what another pixel says? it's online! anyone has the right to click that lil' X on the top of their screen. If you are saying its in r/t...it's unfortunate, but many people get their views squashed by others...not everyone has the same views..it happens. If you/anyone is getting hurt by what others say...why are you giving them that much power over it? Your views are yours...to hell with what others think about them...but if you put it out there, expect that others will share their own...right or wrong.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/4/2004 12:00:55 PM

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I have 3 basic levels of acceptance.

1) I like at least the idea of participating in the kink myself. Needs no elaboration.

2) It's not my kink, but I see no harm in it if other people like it. A recent example of this was when I made the online acquaintence of a lovely young woman who was into guys, girls, and... her dog. My initial gut reaction was "Ewwwwww!" But, after thinking about it, so what if she likes being humped in the most literal doggy-style? Fido is undeniably consenting with great enthusiasm, nobody gets hurt, and it's probably vastly safer than having unprotected sex with a human. So, while I haven't the tiniest bit of interest in anything of the sort, I'm totally fine with them doing what they enjoy. I have no idea about whether it's illegal in her jurisdiction, but I do approve of vibrators, and those are illegal in Alabama. Apologies to the admins for touching on a taboo topic, I hope that you will take no offense when it's only an illustrative example.

3) It's not my kink, and I think it's unsafe, not very sane, or not truly consensual. Lack of competent consent I find totally intolerable. I cannot accept a practice which has a reasonable chance of causing debility or death, even if it's completely nonviolent. Bukkake, for example. I fully understand how some women might enjoy doing that, but think that the STD risk is WAY too high. I try to keep the "rejected kink" category limited to things which I object to based on logic alone. I may verbalize my objections to this category of practice, or I may not. Depends on how strong my feelings are, and whether or not I think anyone will give a shit about my arguments against. No point in wasting my breath on someone who has already made up their mind, and won't hear a word to the contrary.

I think that I'm open minded, but some people will disagree.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/4/2004 12:26:54 PM

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NoCal, As to your third category, passionate about a risk to the participant or not, even if I don't think anyone will "give a shit", I respond. Maybe just maybe someone scrolling through the threads will read it and say "I didn't know that". So even if I know I am going to get a huge response of near flames, I post it. I would rather walk a mile on a potholed road to help someone than drive forever on a smooth hiway ignoring the people at risk along the way. Sounds arrogant, but how do you express concern with a keyboard? People will do as they wish and I have no right to throw that stone, but I will be myself as well. If I have information I think someone could use, then I post it. If I get flamed why sweat the small stuff? Sundew

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/4/2004 2:20:36 PM

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quote:

Do you mean from online? or is this something you see r/t or both? if it's online...who the hell cares about what another pixel says?

Real life, although I should point out that people get hurt online all the time. For some it's the only outlet for their bdsm, and the wannabe's and users are on the prowl. I meant more in line with issues like male dominants disliking male submissives. FemDommes and male subs have even been called "freakish anomalies" on some posts. Another example being rudeness towards an adult baby, ponies or puppies because they aren't into it.

quote:

Does anyone really want these boards to be about ass kissing and schmoozing?

Not the subject I had in mind, but a damn good point. No one wants a forum afraid to debate the important and sometimes heated issues.

quote:

Define open minded

This is so close to what I was hoping to see. I don't think the fact I find scat disgusting wrong. That is my prerogative. But that doesn't make me want to, or give me the right to thrash someone because they feel differently. I can take my love of foot worship, or cbt and apply it to their need to fulfill their own style of kink.
What I hope is that we will learn to disagree agreeably, while maintaining a supportive environment for all our fellow kinksters. We can choose to ignore the threads or views we cannot handle. So many feel that their views are the only right ones, and they may be right ... for them. Not for the entire community.

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/4/2004 4:19:28 PM

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Im open minded to sarcastic crap

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RE: Just How Open Minded Are You Really? - 9/4/2004 4:21:05 PM

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OK for my 2 cents here.

The way I see it, asking how open minded someone is, is about the same as asking their idea of what normal is. What I consider normal may not necessarily be what you consider normal. I would consider myself open minded. For as long as I can remember. However, I do have issues with pedaphiles(sp?) and beastiality. So, I am sure there are some out there who would think me not so "open minded".

As far as what others think of me, there is only a few people whose opinion I value. And even then, it is taken with a grain of salt.

And just because I belong to this "lifestyle" does not mean that I have to be accepting of everything that goes on in it.

Take care,

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