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rulemylife -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/15/2009 6:21:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

Just for the record, the Obamas have not been prominent church attendees since they moved into the White House.


Just for the record, who the fuck cares?

Half the people in this country who claim a religious affiliation don't attend church except for weddings and funerals.




Lucylastic -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/15/2009 6:25:24 AM)

Time says different
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1907610,00.html
For the past five months, White House aides and friends of the Obamas have been quietly visiting local churches and vetting the sermons of prospective first ministers in a search for a new — and uncontroversial — church home. Obama has even sampled a few himself, attending services at 19th Street Baptist on the weekend before his inauguration and celebrating Easter at St. John's Episcopal Church
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1907610,00.html#ixzz0ZldGyGRX
Now, in an unexpected move, Obama has told White House aides that instead of joining a congregation in Washington, D.C., he will follow in George W. Bush's footsteps and make his primary place of worship Evergreen Chapel, the nondenominational church at Camp David.
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1907610,00.html#ixzz0ZldKbiPx

SO are we counting now how many times he attends church to make sure he is being a good little boy or saying that Bush's former church  is turning into a communist mooozlem hideaway






Sanity -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/15/2009 6:25:28 AM)


The left seems to care a whole lot about Sarah Palins' religion, and George Bush's religion.

And Mitt Romney's religion.

By the lefts own standards ones religion is a  legitimate issue.


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Just for the record, who the fuck cares?

Half the people in this country who claim a religious affiliation don't attend church except for weddings and funerals.





rulemylife -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/15/2009 6:26:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Here's the thing.

I don't give a fuck even if he were.


Here's the thing.

Then you don't give a fuck about the U.S. Constitution.


And what does the Constitution have to do with it?

As far as I know it does not prohibit a Muslim President.

Unless there was a secret amendment that I don't know about.







tazzygirl -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/15/2009 6:39:45 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


The left seems to care a whole lot about Sarah Palins' religion, and George Bush's religion.

And Mitt Romney's religion.

By the lefts own standards ones religion is a  legitimate issue.


quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Just for the record, who the fuck cares?

Half the people in this country who claim a religious affiliation don't attend church except for weddings and funerals.




I dont see it as a legitimate reason to keep someone out of office.

Back to the OP....

doesnt the article say they know it wont go far?




rulemylife -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/15/2009 6:40:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


The left seems to care a whole lot about Sarah Palins' religion, and George Bush's religion.

And Mitt Romney's religion.

By the lefts own standards ones religion is a  legitimate issue.


quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Just for the record, who the fuck cares?

Half the people in this country who claim a religious affiliation don't attend church except for weddings and funerals.




No, you are misinterpreting.

When religion becomes a basis for policy, as George Bush did and Sarah Palin promoted, then it is a cause for concern.

Romney never made an issue of his religion though some did.  Which I agree was wrong.

Obama has never made an issue of his religion either, though some have.

One of the most prominent being you with your constant references to Jeremiah Wright. 




RacerJim -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/15/2009 7:06:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


If he were, it might matter, depending on his beliefs. Its entirely subjective, meaning that such things are up to each eligible United States citizen who chooses to vote whether it matters or not.

Votes are cast for varying reasons but many vote for that leader who best reflects their own personal views.


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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Just what difference would his religion make? Christian, Wiccan, Muslim, or Flying Spaghetti Monster...it neither here nor there.



His religion is indeed neither here nor there, but his eligibility to serve as POTUS does indeed matter.  His beliefs also matter and, since he himself said don't judge him by his words but by the people he surrounds himself with, for his entire adult life he has surrounded himself with some of the, in many cases THE, most prominent Communists, Marxists, Socicalists and Black Idiologists in American history.     




mnottertail -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/15/2009 7:28:34 AM)

I am trying to come up with one of 'THE most prominent':
Communist
Marxist
Socialists
Black Idiologists (aint like Jeremiah Wright was household before the dredging)

that he has surrounded himself with his entire adult life.

Or are you talking when he was in the senate?

Ron




kittinSol -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/15/2009 7:53:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

His religion is indeed neither here nor there, but his eligibility to serve as POTUS does indeed matter.  His beliefs also matter and, since he himself said don't judge him by his words but by the people he surrounds himself with, for his entire adult life he has surrounded himself with some of the, in many cases THE, most prominent Communists, Marxists, Socicalists and Black Idiologists in American history.     



Do you realise how completely unamerican your argument actually is?




Silence8 -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/15/2009 7:54:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: RacerJim

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Here's the thing.

I don't give a fuck even if he were.


Here's the thing.

Then you don't give a fuck about the U.S. Constitution.


And what does the Constitution have to do with it?

As far as I know it does not prohibit a Muslim President.

Unless there was a secret amendment that I don't know about.



I hear the secret amendment is hidden in that painting of dogs playing cards, which was painted originally.... by... James Madison!




Silence8 -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/15/2009 7:58:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


If he were, it might matter, depending on his beliefs. Its entirely subjective, meaning that such things are up to each eligible United States citizen who chooses to vote whether it matters or not.

Votes are cast for varying reasons but many vote for that leader who best reflects their own personal views.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

Just what difference would his religion make? Christian, Wiccan, Muslim, or Flying Spaghetti Monster...it neither here nor there.



His religion is indeed neither here nor there, but his eligibility to serve as POTUS does indeed matter.  His beliefs also matter and, since he himself said don't judge him by his words but by the people he surrounds himself with, for his entire adult life he has surrounded himself with some of the, in many cases THE, most prominent Communists, Marxists, Socicalists and Black Idiologists in American history.     


This is the second time in two days that I've encountered the word "idiology" on this board.




Musicmystery -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/15/2009 8:06:53 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RacerJim

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Here's the thing.

I don't give a fuck even if he were.


Here's the thing.

Then you don't give a fuck about the U.S. Constitution.


On the contrary.

It's just that I take what it says seriously, rather than make up shit to pretend it supports any given position.

I DO give a fuck about idiots who try to do the later, especially when they try to call it law.

You should try reading the Constitution, along with what the founders wrote. Throw in history of the times.

You may even come to like, and in time, love and protect the ideals that document enshrines.

I do.




NihilusZero -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/15/2009 8:20:11 AM)

I guess if some people just believe they are part of a theocracy hard enough they think it is magically born into reality.




rulemylife -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/16/2009 3:37:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Silence8


quote:

ORIGINAL: RacerJim

His religion is indeed neither here nor there, but his eligibility to serve as POTUS does indeed matter.  His beliefs also matter and, since he himself said don't judge him by his words but by the people he surrounds himself with, for his entire adult life he has surrounded himself with some of the, in many cases THE, most prominent Communists, Marxists, Socicalists and Black Idiologists in American history.     


This is the second time in two days that I've encountered the word "idiology" on this board.


Well welcome to the politics and religion forum where you will find "idiologists" on a daily basis.




DarkSteven -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/16/2009 3:49:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: RacerJim

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Here's the thing.

I don't give a fuck even if he were.


Here's the thing.

Then you don't give a fuck about the U.S. Constitution.


And what does the Constitution have to do with it?

As far as I know it does not prohibit a Muslim President.

Unless there was a secret amendment that I don't know about.



There are two wacko theories going around about Obama, one that he is a closet Muslim, and the other that he was born outside the US.  I think that RacerJim confused the two theories.

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I am trying to come up with one of 'THE most prominent':
Communist
Marxist
Socialists
Black Idiologists (aint like Jeremiah Wright was household before the dredging)

that he has surrounded himself with his entire adult life.

Or are you talking when he was in the senate?

Ron


Rev. Wright qualifies as a Black Ideologist (whatever the hell that is), but I believe that RacerJim intends to point out the one man who resigned from Obama's cabinet amid charges that he was a black separatist.  I have no clue why RJ stated that Obama has a multitude of Communists, Marxists, and Socialists hanging around. To be honest, I can't even come up with a single name of a prominent Communist/Marxist/Socialist in the US, let alone one who is hanging with the President.  You could make a weak case that the bank bailout fills Marxist economic theory "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs," but I would argue that Bush and Paulson are the most prominent C/M/S's since they devised and pushed it, and neither one of them is in contact with Obama.  Geithner is, though...

Y'know, RJ, I'm trying to answer these questions in your stead.  If you could answer them instead, it would clear up a lot.




Level -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/16/2009 4:23:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, It's a duck!!! If it isn't enough for you that Obama attended a racist church who hates the very capitalistic system that created a world superpower that has defended the world from tyranny for over 60 years, then perhaps this video will convince you he is a fraud pretending to be a Christian for political gain. This site also has a very interesting article on Obama's citizenship status.

http://babelishere.webs.com
http://babelishere.webs.com/awards.html



Here's some more proof!

[image]http://sheikyermami.com/wp-content/uploads/muslim5.jpg[/image]

No wait, I'm sorry, that's just proof that some people will fucking believe anything.




Loki45 -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/16/2009 4:23:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
The left seems to care a whole lot about Sarah Palins' religion, and George Bush's religion.

And Mitt Romney's religion.

By the lefts own standards ones religion is a  legitimate issue.


Only when one wants to govern *using* that religion. Obama has already shown that he keeps his state separate from his church. The right should learn to do the same if they want their religion to be left alone. Keep your religious beliefs out of my government and I'll keep my nose out of your beliefs.




tazzygirl -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/16/2009 6:52:32 AM)

Your government?




thishereboi -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/16/2009 6:57:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Loki45

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity
The left seems to care a whole lot about Sarah Palins' religion, and George Bush's religion.

And Mitt Romney's religion.

By the lefts own standards ones religion is a  legitimate issue.


Only when one wants to govern *using* that religion. Obama has already shown that he keeps his state separate from his church. The right should learn to do the same if they want their religion to be left alone. Keep your religious beliefs out of my government and I'll keep my nose out of your beliefs.



Does the right have their own religion? I didn't realize that. What do they call themselves?




tazzygirl -> RE: Proof That Obama Is A Muslim (12/16/2009 7:01:40 AM)

Loki seems to own the government as well.

~shrugs~




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