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sunshinemiss -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 10:30:21 AM)

ETA:  I am NOT saying he is dull or ignorant.  I am saying  that there is wisdom everywhere.  We just need to be open to it.  One never knows where we will find it - on the comic pages, in a religious book, on a billboard, out of the mouths of babes, on a message board.  Openness will allow us to see it even in places we don't expect it.

Blessings,
sunshine

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

While the simplicity of the "rules" as this person put them up can be picked apart on a shallow level, to me there is a certain truth to them.  I'm seeing it more Zen maybe ... the simplicity of a koan which is also deeply complex.  "Showing up" as in physically getting there; "showing up" as in being authentically and truly present in the now. 
 


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ORIGINAL: Hierodule
I went back to re-read looking for the simple truths of his rules. I do agree with your statement, sunshine. But I find it hard to believe that this is what the OP meant by "show up." I think he simply meant "be a female and be in my presence." Maybe I should give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he is a zen philosopher... ;-)




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-- written by Max Ehrmann in the 1920s --
Not "Found in Old St. Paul's Church"! -- see below
Go placidly amid the noise and the haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible, without surrender,
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even to the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.

Avoid loud and aggressive persons;
they are vexatious to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain or bitter,
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs,
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals,
and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love,
for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment,
it is as perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline,
be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be.
And whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life,
keep peace in your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.
 




osf -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 11:26:13 AM)

we all have opinions




Drifa -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 11:48:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rockspider
Rule number 2 is quite easy. You just put a box of Michelsens chocolates in front of them and you don't hear a word from them[:D]


Godiva dark chocolate enrobed apricots, please!




lusciouslips19 -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 12:39:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: osf

we all have opinions


Yes, and some have a track record that gets people to listen.




osf -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 12:43:52 PM)

im not interested in getting people to listen, there are enough self appointed leaders, let the people listen to them

ill continue my search




sirsholly -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 12:52:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: osf

im not interested in getting people to listen.....

ill continue my search

if you can't get them to listen to you, i really doubt they are going to "shut the fuck up and do as they are told".




osf -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 1:42:47 PM)

i dont want them to do anything




sirsholly -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 1:43:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: osf

i dont want them to do anything
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OttersSwim -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 1:48:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: osf

i dont want them to do anything


Rings the Troll Bell and exits the thread.  Buh bye...  [8|]




sweetsub1957 -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 2:01:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: wykkidesire2plsU

The OP is probably stuck on rule #1, getting anyone to show up :P


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ORIGINAL: osf

where was the insult?


OP, You insult slaves/subs by treating them as people not worthy of civility and common decency, to say nothing of respect.  By the way, how're You're rules workin' for Ya?  [;)]





osf -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 2:05:14 PM)

and what of the subbies that want to be treated as property, are they wrong too?




lusciouslips19 -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 2:06:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: osf

and what of the subbies that want to be treated as property, are they wrong too?



You can be treated as valued property. Those with intelligence dont want to break their belongings.




sweetsub1957 -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 2:09:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19


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ORIGINAL: osf

and what of the subbies that want to be treated as property, are they wrong too?



You can be treated as valued property. Those with intelligence dont want to break their belongings.


Exactly!!  OP, would You take a BMW and go four-wheeling with it?




osf -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 2:09:16 PM)

you must be on a different site than i am




Justme696 -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 2:15:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: osf

#1 show up

#2 shut the fuck up

#3 do as your told




sounds like work




osf -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 2:23:16 PM)

is it work to be what your natural inclination is?




sweetsub1957 -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 2:29:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: osf

is it work to be what your natural inclination is?


Then, OP, You must not be working very hard, because You're attitude is coming forth like an equine's derriere. 




Justme696 -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 2:32:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: osf

is it work to be what your natural inclination is?



work as in ....something you do for a living




dragonseeker -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 2:43:08 PM)

So besides the short and very insightful post, i am still trying to figure out WHY this is posted under "Ask a Submissive/Slave"?... where is the question? I have to agree that I think that this statement of rules to be a slave to your liking should be in your profile.

Anyhow... My Sire says that owning a slave is like owning any other property. You get what you put into it. If you only mistreat it and don't put any tlc into it then eventually it will fall apart. However if you take good care of it, make sure that it runs smoothly, give it that tlc that it needs, then it will purr like a kitten and be on top performance at all times. Mind you i am not sitting on a pedestal being pampered by my Sire, but he does take very good care of me. He values all parts of me, including my mind and will frequently ask me what i think of things and what my opinions are.

As for the whole show up, shut up and just do as i say theme. Most sane submissives will not really go for that on the first meeting, and i would assume probably not on the second meeting either. There are all these other things that need (or should) be established, such as trust, respect, safety, etc.... However once trust has been earned i can see some of those rules being applied, most likely worded differently and with different intent.

#1 - slave must pay attention to Masters needs at all times to the best of her ability.
#2 - slave will only speak when spoken to or asked to speak.
#3 - slave will do as she is told, when she is told.




osf -> RE: how to be a slave in three easy lessons (12/18/2009 3:02:23 PM)

i sometimes question the sanity of any woman that would seek out a man to knock her about or the sanity of a man that enjoys it




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