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However; in the real world, what I want...... is a woman who continually strives to better her appearance, presentation, sexual skill, grace, home, life, love, mind and self (HER BEING, HER SOUL) for the glory of HER master.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Stagnation is a breeding ground for disease and worst of all............mosquitoes.

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  I don't improve myself for other people's enjoyment, I do it so that my life is easier, better, more fun to live. I have never expected someone to continually change themselves to make me happy, and I've always thought that expecting that kind of thing could end up disastrous (and in my experience it always HAS been very very bad).

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ORIGINAL: SomethingCatchy

I was always told, and have accepted, that self improvement, growth, and emotional maturity should be done for yourself in order to be happy. When I read this, my first thought was 'Why does it have to be for him?'

I don't improve myself for other people's enjoyment, I do it so that my life is easier, better, more fun to live. I have never expected someone to continually change themselves to make me happy, and I've always thought that expecting that kind of thing could end up disastrous (and in my experience it always HAS been very very bad).

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I see where he's coming from wanting a woman that works on herself, but then I stumbled up on 'for the glory of her master.' I was always told, and have accepted, that self improvement, growth, and emotional maturity should be done for yourself in order to be happy. When I read this, my first thought was 'Why does it have to be for him?'

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ORIGINAL: SomethingCatchy

I'm all about self improvement, even if I am lazy and hard to motivate. I find people who work on themselves throughout their lives attractive and interesting to know. I could never be involved with someone who's at a stalemate and refuses to keep growing.

I got this from mnottertail's profile -

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However; in the real world, what I want...... is a woman who continually strives to better her appearance, presentation, sexual skill, grace, home, life, love, mind and self (HER BEING, HER SOUL) for the glory of HER master.

I see where he's coming from wanting a woman that works on herself, but then I stumbled up on 'for the glory of her master.' I was always told, and have accepted, that self improvement, growth, and emotional maturity should be done for yourself in order to be happy. When I read this, my first thought was 'Why does it have to be for him?'

I don't improve myself for other people's enjoyment, I do it so that my life is easier, better, more fun to live. I have never expected someone to continually change themselves to make me happy, and I've always thought that expecting that kind of thing could end up disastrous (and in my experience it always HAS been very very bad).

Now I'm not picking on mnottertail, these are just the thoughts that the quote made me think about, and I wondered what others thought, too. I won't ask any specific questions because the only ones I can think of right now are very leading and reflect my personal opinion instead of being unbiased. 

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23
... Their own Personal Jesus...

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23

You're a dominant, you're never going to understand it on anything but an intellectual level.

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ORIGINAL: lucylucy
It has to be for him if you want to be a slave to someone like him, and the reason is because he said so and he’s the Master and you’re the slave.

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ORIGINAL: alittleevil
Hello,

It's "common" understanding that to make changes (lose weight, lose a bad habit, learn a skill, etc), the desire to do so has to be internal in order for the change to stick.  However, this particular slave is not particularly self motivating--my locus of motivation and pleasure is outside my own self.  I can better my "appearance, presentation, sexual skill, grace, home, life, love, mind and self" and find it rewarding but i find it more rewarding (and, in all honesty am more likely to make the changes and make them stick) if externally motivated and pleasing to another.

I don't see this as "continually changing" myself so much as simply doing what is required to please Master, which in itself is happy-making to me, even if it is not something i myself would choose to do for myself. Semantics? Maybe...

Peace,
aj

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ORIGINAL: SomethingCatchy
I don't improve myself for other people's enjoyment, I do it so that my life is easier, better, more fun to live. I have never expected someone to continually change themselves to make me happy, and I've always thought that expecting that kind of thing could end up disastrous (and in my experience it always HAS been very very bad).

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23

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Actually, I'm a switch, I just don't meet many people who inspire submission from me. I can see everything from both points of view.

It just means you don't wake up in the morning thinking "I wish someone would tell me what to do with my life."  And you don't seek those people out.

And no, you can't see from both points of view.  If that were true, you'd never have asked the question you asked.

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ORIGINAL: DomImus

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ORIGINAL: SomethingCatchy
I don't improve myself for other people's enjoyment, I do it so that my life is easier, better, more fun to live. I have never expected someone to continually change themselves to make me happy, and I've always thought that expecting that kind of thing could end up disastrous (and in my experience it always HAS been very very bad).

While expecting someone else to improve themselves for your benefit may be a bit selfish I don't see how only do it for yourself and yourself alone is any less selfish.

Just my two cents.