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LadyHibiscus -> Sisterhood (12/21/2009 5:00:05 PM)

Over on Fet, there is a group called "The Sisterhood", for female dominants. Being an old skool feminist, I have always had that notion of female sisterhood, solidarity, that feeling that we are all in this together, etc. A submissive lady I know is vehement that she is no one's sister unless she is genetically related to them, and being in the same interest group or gender is meaningless.

What do you think? ARE we sisters under the skin? Or was old Rudyard talking through his hat?




VampiresLair -> RE: Sisterhood (12/21/2009 5:10:52 PM)

While my Owner is in that same group, she's of the same belief as your friend.  I am as well.  I would hate the idea of being grouped in with all submissive males.  We certainly don't have a brotherhood...heck, there are very few that I actually like. :-p

That being said, it's natural for people to form groups and look for places to belong.  I don't mind it, I just try my best not to take part in it.  I don't see any harm in people believing it.  As a feminist(perhaps not old-skool), I think the notion of female sisterhood is potentially damaging to the cause as a whole.  I've read quite a few essays where that's evolves into a "we can't trust men" outlook that makes my head hurt.  Especially when one considers that some of the biggest supporters of feminism have been men and some of its biggest opponents have been women.  Anyway, I don't want to turn this thread into another discussion of feminism.

In short, I don't like the idea of sisterhoods or brotherhoods in the lifestyle, but if you do then more power to you.

DV's Fox




LadyAngelika -> RE: Sisterhood (12/21/2009 5:14:22 PM)

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What do you think? ARE we sisters under the skin? Or was old Rudyard talking through his hat?


I'm in that same group out of curiosity but I haven't found the topics discussed to my liking (and I actually prefer the discussion boards here at the moment).

I don't have any biological sisters. There are about a half dozen women through out my life that I've been close enough to consider "like a sister". And though I genuinely like many of the Dominant women that I meet online, I wouldn't go as far as calling them my sister.

ETA: I accept the title of some groups entitled Sisterhood to the same degree that I accept that an acquaintance is my Facebook Friend (another word I take very seriously!)

- LA




LadyPact -> RE: Sisterhood (12/21/2009 5:34:14 PM)

I tend not to do the sisterhood thing.  Granted, there have been some Dominant women out there who have had so many similarities with Me that one would think we must have been raised in the same family.  A whole of Domnes in general, not so much.  I love it when I find things that I have in common with a particular Dominant woman, but I know it's not universal.




dreamerdreaming -> RE: Sisterhood (12/21/2009 7:10:55 PM)

The entire human race is related. I think we need to draw each other near as people. Not as exclusive groups of a certain ____(gender, color, orientation, whatever- fill in the blank). There's been enough of that going on, down through history.

We are ALL family.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Sisterhood (12/21/2009 7:30:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Over on Fet, there is a group called "The Sisterhood", for female dominants. Being an old skool feminist, I have always had that notion of female sisterhood, solidarity, that feeling that we are all in this together, etc. A submissive lady I know is vehement that she is no one's sister unless she is genetically related to them, and being in the same interest group or gender is meaningless.

What do you think? ARE we sisters under the skin? Or was old Rudyard talking through his hat?


Even that very group disproves the myth, if you ask me. I browse it from time to time (because that's where all the hot babes seem to hang out), and I've seen quite a number of times where the "sisters" have turned on one of their own if she says something the inner circle doesn't approve of. I'm amazed at the vicious, spiteful, self-important backstabbing I've seen in there. If a group named "The Sisterhood" is that catty and vindictive, it doesn't say much for the theory upon which it was supposedly founded.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Sisterhood (12/21/2009 8:12:01 PM)

Well I must say that I agree with you about that particular discussion group. I left it awhile, then went back after some discussion or other interested me. One of the things I do NOT enjoy about Fet is the increased concentration of seriously nasty folks.

The us v. them attitude that grouping can engender isn't a good thing, I agree, and there is no WAY that I consider myself beholden to or friends with the wide world of femdoms. Still, I think that as a "special interest group" we have some areas in common, and at least in my own circle, we back each other up. Even on the interwebs, we TALK to each other---and share our experiences.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Sisterhood (12/21/2009 8:15:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Over on Fet, there is a group called "The Sisterhood", for female dominants. Being an old skool feminist, I have always had that notion of female sisterhood, solidarity, that feeling that we are all in this together, etc. A submissive lady I know is vehement that she is no one's sister unless she is genetically related to them, and being in the same interest group or gender is meaningless.

What do you think? ARE we sisters under the skin? Or was old Rudyard talking through his hat?


You are my sistah because you earned your place as my sista.
(my sisters are bossy too, yanno)
But it has nothing to do with the Fem or Dom thing. Its female friends being there for there compadres.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Sisterhood (12/21/2009 8:30:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Well I must say that I agree with you about that particular discussion group. I left it awhile, then went back after some discussion or other interested me. One of the things I do NOT enjoy about Fet is the increased concentration of seriously nasty folks.

The us v. them attitude that grouping can engender isn't a good thing, I agree, and there is no WAY that I consider myself beholden to or friends with the wide world of femdoms. Still, I think that as a "special interest group" we have some areas in common, and at least in my own circle, we back each other up. Even on the interwebs, we TALK to each other---and share our experiences.


And that's exactly why that group is not a good fit for you. You're a warm, decent, feeling, deeply caring human being, and well above that kind of behavior.

But I'm still going to continue to lurk there and scout for the hot babes.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Sisterhood (12/21/2009 8:50:01 PM)

{{{HUGS MY SISTA}}}

Panda, you are deeply wise. LMK if you find any hot chicks, mmmkay?




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Sisterhood (12/21/2009 11:02:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
Panda, you are deeply wise. LMK if you find any hot chicks, mmmkay?


Why thank you, ma'am! But see, I'm only looking for one. And if I ever find her, I'm not going to be looking any more, so I won't know if there are any more there!

But if I ever stumble across a pair of twins, I'll give you a call. I don't want to be greedy.




Ladynslave -> RE: Sisterhood (12/21/2009 11:10:50 PM)

While I do have an actual sister, I believe that true friends can become more like sisters than she and I will ever be.  All women with a common theme?  Not so much.  Most women don't like me anyway IRL so can't see me rushing to call anyone sister until they have earned the title.

Lady




allthatjaz -> RE: Sisterhood (12/22/2009 2:25:06 AM)

I go to fem Domme private parties and it often feels very sisterly, especially if they are people you know well but there are many Dommes that I wouldn't necessarily want to be associated with and so joining an online group of sisters isn't really my thing.
I do fem Domme clubs on occasion but when your standing near some woman thats screaming 'get on the fucking floor you worthless cunt' at her sub but right near my ear, I just want to slap her! Just because they are Domme doesn't mean we have anything in common.
On the other hand I have seen Dommes that I can't take my eyes off because I like what they are doing and I feel a connection with them.




CarrieO -> RE: Sisterhood (12/22/2009 3:50:37 AM)

I've always liked the idea of a sisterhood among women.  Just as I like the concept of a tribe of like-minded people, a circle of friends and a family of choice. 

It's been my experience, unfortunately, that utopia is a dream and people are only human, full of quirks and idiosyncrasies that make it difficult for everyone to appreciate and accept the uniqueness of each other all while maintaining connection and comradery.

That hasn't stopped me from looking for my tribe of like-minded sisters.




Underumam -> RE: Sisterhood (12/22/2009 8:50:00 AM)

I found out the hard way many years ago, that ALL females of integrity have joined minds..It's almost like majic how females intuitive perception can "sniff" out male wrong-doings from miles away. This leads me to conclude that all females are in a sisterhood whether want to be, or not.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Sisterhood (12/22/2009 8:56:34 AM)

Well, the best of us do indeed have brilliant asshole detection technology![:D]




OttersSwim -> RE: Sisterhood (12/22/2009 10:17:47 AM)

I have always had dreams of being a "princess", and being a "sister"....

I too was convinced of a universal "Sisterhood" for many years - why else would you all go to the bathroom together?  I imagined flaming chasms or pits filled with crocs that you needed two or more to swing over at great danger to life and limb - all this just to pee!

Then I actually went into a woman's restroom...no pits, no crocs, no flames...no tp...  [;)]

I still want to be a princess and a sister...




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Sisterhood (12/22/2009 10:23:48 AM)

We can be princesses together, Otters~ I get the iridescent tiara!




OttersSwim -> RE: Sisterhood (12/22/2009 10:46:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

We can be princesses together, Otters~ I get the iridescent tiara!


YAYS!  [:D]




SaharahEve -> RE: Sisterhood (12/22/2009 11:08:44 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Over on Fet, there is a group called "The Sisterhood", for female dominants. Being an old skool feminist, I have always had that notion of female sisterhood, solidarity, that feeling that we are all in this together, etc. A submissive lady I know is vehement that she is no one's sister unless she is genetically related to them, and being in the same interest group or gender is meaningless.

What do you think? ARE we sisters under the skin? Or was old Rudyard talking through his hat?


We are only sisters if we are sisters. In other words, are we in agreement enough with each other for there to be true support and cohesion? I believe a greater sisterhood, particularly among woman who live in female-led relationships, can become a reality if more women focus on empowering each another with support, communication, sharing of resources, etc., rather than engaging in competition, jealousy and one-upmanship.  Therein lies the problem with the idea of "sisterhood". A sisterhood needs not only to be on the same page philosophically, but free of the uglier parts of human nature for the most part. If jealousy, spite and insecurity exists, sisterhood simply won't work - no matter how common the cause.




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