gatorgasm
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I'm ashamed to say this is my first comment on the forums. I was in the process of self exploration when I came across this thread, and I couldn't resist.
My first assumption is that the original poster used language to deliberately incite others. My second assumption is that you are as sharp as you claim, so you're probably smarter than I. I have no intentions of engaging the intellectual pissing contest that's going on.
First, you stated that vaginal lubrication is tantamount to surrender. Scientifically, this is foolish. The process of making a "wet pussy" is hard to grasp as a man, but think of it like the saliva glands in your mouth. Your body produces this substance to prepare you for a physical act. It is a process is engaged by external stimuli...sight, scent...etc. Its the same masculine heavy thinking that equates penetration with dominance. Saying a "wet pussy" surrenders to a penis is like telling a Lioness her fangs are surrendering to the prey. If you want to understand submission, just reverse your thought patterns.
My insights on the subject matter at hand.
I agree with the previous comment. Bibiswitch, your understanding of human sexuality is misguided. Forgivable, since you came here looking for answers. An erection is a physical response to some form of stimulus. This can be chemical, visual, physical, emotional, mental...etc. In my experience, and the consensus of most of the real male submissives I know, men don't get a "hardon" from humiliation. They encounter feelings of degradation and shame. For many of us, these feelings are linked to some experience, sometimes traumatic, sometimes pleasurable. The human mind has its own ways of handling events such as this, each is unique, an the relationship to sexual pleasure and shame is a very close one. You are trying to understand masochism and submission through an external lens, a mistake which nearly every sub or masochist has made. When I first discovered I was a submissive, I thought that I enjoyed pain and humiliation. While there are forms of play that are fun and pleasurable, its is generally not the pain and humiliation that is enjoyed. (For the purpose of this conversation, the two are analogous.)
Case in point. Come tell my Domme your opinions on her wet pussy. You will very quickly realize that her wrath is not pleasurable, it is painful, frightening, and humiliating. You will not find it sexually stimulating, and you will not have an erection.
If my Mistress uses pain or humiliation to punish, it is not a gratifying thing, and this is pretty much a BDSM universal. When she inflicts pain/humiliation in a more playful manner, it can be an incredibly gratuitous. A talented Domme is a master over her subs mind and body. She can manipulate the submissive using varying levels of pain and pleasure, tease and release...etc. The application of fear and pain arouse the senses, stimulate the body, and release the blessed waters of "subspace." That's masochism. Its not finding pleasure in pain, its losing the ability to tell the difference.
Humiliation is a similar thing. It could be being forced to wear lace panties, eat your own semen, or simply being ridiculed...Its degrading. It makes you squirm, it makes you feel dirty, degraded, worthless, helpless...pick an adjective. Women are not the only ones who find erotic stimulation in this. In another sense, humiliation is just another tool of manipulation...The source of a Domina's power. By lowering the sub to a mindset of inferiority, she elevates herself. When you truly believe that you are not worthy of another persons affection, the worldview changes. This is how a Domina can change from a Woman of flesh and blood and leather to a virtual Goddess.
Its a fun world we live in.
And for the love of Christ, Bibiswitch, proofread your posts. When a word you have written is underlined in red, right click on it and pick the appropriate replacement. And press shift when you write the first letter of every sentence or proper noun. If you are going to be communicating in the written English language, do it right or don't bother. It is fucking annoying.
< Message edited by gatorgasm -- 12/31/2009 2:03:33 PM >
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