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To be honest Zeph, save the popcorn.

When people start showing home movies in defence of a vacuous point, I'm outta here.

Not exactly a chick magnet pad. Spacious?. Well no, not that either.

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella

So basically if I said "people who use the word 'psycho' in an online handle are idiots" I wouldn't be calling you an idiot unless you decided not to change your screen name. Sorry but it doesn't work that way.

If you'd said what you said at the beginning of the thread, out of the blue rather than in direct response to someone who already did the thing you're saying only an idiot would do, then I'd be more inclined to believe that you weren't talking about her.

At best you can say "I called you an idiot when I felt you were acting like an idiot but if you stop acting that way I will stop calling you an idiot."

Seriously is it that fucking hard to say "I'm sorry for calling you an idiot just because I disagree with the line of argument you took"?

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella
What the police do is necessary. I'm not sure what, specifically, is unethical about what they do.

They lie to, intimidate, assault, kidnap, enslave and murder people.  We just call it interrogation, arrest, imprisonment and capital punishment.  Essentially if you were to do what the police do, you would be a criminal.

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Well, okay, obviously that's an impossibility.  There is no such thing as perfectly identical people.  I thought you meant those terms in the sense they are generally used.  Like for example, two different people (say both men in their twenties) rob two different liquor stores with two different guns, most people would say those are examples of identical crimes in which the perpetrator did the same thing.  But if you want to get pedantic, then yeah.

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The meaning of words changes over time, and often (especially with Greek and Latin roots) the meaning of those words is only loosely related to their modern meanings.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Unfortunately yes, it really is that hard for him and those like him. People who's whole ego, self identity, is completely dependent upon being right. If he apologizes then he would have to admit he was wrong and he cannot do that.

It isn't much different than the debacle in the Gorean forums, a couple of people arguing themselves in circles just to get the last word. They do not see the fools they make of themselves, they simply see the threat to ego and haven't the self discipline to walk away and let it go.

LaTigresse, registed psychic and mind reader, thus qualified to use baseless speculation and armchair psychology in lieu of rational argument.

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Unfortunately yes, it really is that hard for him and those like him. People who's whole ego, self identity, is completely dependent upon being right. If he apologizes then he would have to admit he was wrong and he cannot do that.

It isn't much different than the debacle in the Gorean forums, a couple of people arguing themselves in circles just to get the last word. They do not see the fools they make of themselves, they simply see the threat to ego and haven't the self discipline to walk away and let it go.

LaTigresse, registed psychic and mind reader, thus qualified to use baseless speculation and armchair psychology in lieu of rational argument.

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In my opinion, she only becomes an idiot when she does it consistently and repeatedly after having the reasons why the dictionary fallacy is a fallacy. The more she sticks to the argument, the more likely it is that she's an idiot.

As it stands, I'm only calling her an idiot IF she identifies herself as a person doing this idiotic thing. So I didn't call her an idiot. I created a situation in which she could choose to interpret my comments as implying that she is an idiot, but only by committing to an idiotic course of action.

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23

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Which in their cases, are likely to be dingy little bedrooms, filled with nothing but video games, Star Wars postes and dust. Talk about masochists in Dom 's clothing. :)

Here's a photo of my parlor, this gives a fairly decent idea of my interior design sense.  It's hardly a geek den.  Not a Star Wars poster in sight.

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I've seen Star Wars over 500 times. That means I have seen Scene 159 over 500 times.

(Note to self: Buy a Darth Vader costume.)

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Being a geek myself, dude, that's totally a geek den. Maybe you'll recognize and embrace that one day.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Unfortunately yes, it really is that hard for him and those like him. People who's whole ego, self identity, is completely dependent upon being right. If he apologizes then he would have to admit he was wrong and he cannot do that.

It isn't much different than the debacle in the Gorean forums, a couple of people arguing themselves in circles just to get the last word. They do not see the fools they make of themselves, they simply see the threat to ego and haven't the self discipline to walk away and let it go.

LaTigresse, registed psychic and mind reader, thus qualified to use baseless speculation and armchair psychology in lieu of rational argument.

It's not baseless speculation, you said yourself it's more "fun" to try to come up with loopholes about how you're right than to apologize for personally insulting someone who did nothing more than disagree with you in a way you feel is invalid.

You prefer to deny that you attacked someone, rather than apologize to that person. That screams "I must be right at all costs."

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Have you noticed he hasn't gone toe to toe with Aswad's rational arguments? I think he knows Aswad could wipe the floor with him.

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19
Have you noticed he hasn't gone toe to toe with Aswad's rational arguments? I think he knows Aswad could wipe the floor with him.

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella
I think it's hard for him when his basic assumption (I am smarter and better educated than everyone here) is challenged.

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23
The art in my room consists of a framed Japanese screen printing, a few carved African masks, an abacus, things that are tasteful and refined, not crass and commercial.

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23

Will you please stop discussing me in the third person?  That's so fucking obnoxious.

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All the women I bring back to my place say I have a great taste in decor.

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ORIGINAL: Psychonaut23
The art in my room consists of a framed Japanese screen printing, a few carved African masks, an abacus, things that are tasteful and refined, not crass and commercial.

Ok... I'm going to start working up a proposal to send to Bravo where we do a reality of show of me dragging you into a future that better fits your current perception of yourself. Hilarity will ensue!