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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 3:27:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: osf


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ORIGINAL: sissyshoefetish


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I'm sorry if I offended you Missokyst.  I was not trying to boast. 


aha - the submissive response to the annoyance of a dominant ;-)
Isn't this the point? A sub expresses a view but when admonished by a dominant they feel the need to submit and so because a person is submissive they do in the end act in a manner "more becoming" and as a result some people will be offended by this behaviour.
Its rather a dilemma but as pointed out by many, the real trick is simply to extent courtesy to others and perhaps not to role play in open discussion.


i'm surprised anybody expects any different


I'm surprised you are surprised. If "a dominant" scolds me, I'm much likely to tell them to fuck off than change my behavior. If Valyraen admonishes me, I modify my behavior. If someone I respect pulls me aside, regardless of their side of the kneel, I'll strongly consider their opinion. But just "a dominant"?

Fuck no. I don't let the guy at the bar tell me to go home with him, why should I submit to a stranger on the 'net cause they're a dominant?

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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 4:11:53 AM   
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Have I told you lately that I lubs you, AS?
But you still need a spanking *makes note to cmail Val*


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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 4:28:44 AM   
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I dunno but it's always nice to hear it again sexy pants. And awesome new pic!

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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 4:38:22 AM   
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I dunno but it's always nice to hear it again sexy pants.

 
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And awesome new pic!

I was gettin my subly on there


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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 4:40:22 AM   
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Definately gettin' your subbie goin' on. Very cute!

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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 4:43:06 AM   
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You'll notice that there is a certain lack of pants though, sexy or otherwise

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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 4:48:11 AM   
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Oh... this pants-lacking was definately noticed.

Oh so very noticed...

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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 5:01:33 AM   
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*slut* 

ETA apologies to the OP, things sometimes get a bit sideways while all the non insomniacs are in bed and failing to keep the rest of us occupied.



< Message edited by WyldHrt -- 1/2/2010 5:10:53 AM >


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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 5:23:11 AM   
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Oh, do go on! I've got a box of honey nut cheerios and am quite enjoying the back and forth!

I'm mainly up because I've got a date with a slave that I've been talking back and forth with for about a month. And unless it's all been a lie I expect it to be quite awesome.

Also I have to concur. Great new picture.

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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 5:25:04 AM   
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I write and post the same way I behave face to face............and if I WAS to be rude, insulting, make personal snipes at other people, regardless of who they are, or how THEY behave, he'd be suprised.

I don't restrain myself in any way and I don't behave in any way as a reflection on him........I behave in a way that's acceptable to ME.

Everyone here has their own personality, some spark up quickly, some chime in with redundant sarcastic comments, (some of which are rather humourous)......some people have nothing much to say beyond injecting a *what she/he said*....some are persistantly witty...some are insightful......some are aggressive....some are wise in a refreshing down to earth way.

I like watching these personalities in action.....no matter what my personality is biased toward.

I'm far more likely to tell someone to *fuck off* in real life than I am on a forum, simply because I'm not sufficiently passionate about anything that takes place here, am not involved enough and have little invested in it.

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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 6:08:18 AM   
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imagine this place if all the subs were polite and respectful to all dominants and noone felt able to speak their mind or stand up for themselves if they get 'pushed' around. youd never ever get a good discussion going if everyone agreed with everyone else in the pursuit of politeness.

but i agree that some of the personal attacks that occur on here from time to time can get pretty brutal and i try not to get involved with that. having said that i have in the past made a few sideswipes but only when someone side swipes me or someone i consider to be a friend of mine.

i think if someone is constantly just picking rows and disagreements then they are going to get a rep for doing that. but the majority of people who post on here all contribute some excellent points and thoughts, hopefully anyone interested in a poster will see the full picture.

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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 6:26:40 AM   
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imagine this place if all the subs were polite and respectful to all dominants


how about just polite and speaking their minds

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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 6:32:59 AM   
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I am on my own here, and I am likely to ignore a dominant or any other side of the slash admonishing me on how to behave on an internet message board (are you kidding?  for many people it is a playground, with pigtail pulling and sand throwing, do not take yourself so seriously).  The only exception would be if someone whom I respected called me out on my behavior.  That has rarely happened so I remain unconcerned.

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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 6:37:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I am on my own here, and I am likely to ignore a dominant or any other side of the slash admonishing me on how to behave on an internet message board (are you kidding?  for many people it is a playground, with pigtail pulling and sand throwing, do not take yourself so seriously).  The only exception would be if someone whom I respected called me out on my behavior.  That has rarely happened so I remain unconcerned.


i'm not telling anyone how to behave, just a suggestion is all

am i suggestion something submissives don't know how to do?

< Message edited by osf -- 1/2/2010 6:38:40 AM >


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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 7:19:19 AM   
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For myself, i thoroughly enjoy being snarky with idiots and their opinions - up to a point. And at that point when it gets mean, i have to leave it.
Honestly, the way some write, they are obviously looking for a fight, and i enjoy giving it to them, and my Sir has no objection to that. I like finding creative ways to point out how stupid some of the things that are said really are.

The rest of the time, i am my more usual sweet, caring, empathetic, sensitive, loving , honest, tactful, soothing (should i go on?) self. ...... well, maybe not, but i don't go out of my way to piss people off.

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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 7:31:53 AM   
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My responses do matter, and in this when i am seeing my responses starting to get hard to maintain, i need to back out. If the person was reachable, that is one thing, but when they feed off of negative comments and bash anyone for trying to help them, because they are 'a dom', then it is time to put that s/n on 'hide' and be done with them, which i just have had to do this morning. for mfor me to deal with someone like that.

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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 8:19:36 AM   
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I post here, and on the political boards, and on other, vanilla blogs and websites. What the OP noticed isn't particular to submissives, or even CM. Even in the business world, email exchanges are famous for erupting into flame wars for no reason.

What happens is the written word is not the most natural medium for most people. We speak in much longer, more descriptive ways when we are face to face, and we normally are more adept at using milder, more diplomatic words when speaking than when writing.

Written posts- like emails at work- have a tendency to come across as short, frosty, clipped and terse. This, combined with the anonymity of the net, allows a mild disagreement to appear as a frontal attack, and is met with an equal or greater response. And the flame war is joined, to equal parts amusement and annoyance.

Oh, but particular to CM, is that many Doms do in fact think "Dominant" is synonymous with "Boorish".

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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 8:29:04 AM   
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OP you apparently have orders to submit to anyone who calls himself dominant and give them respect they have not earned.

I'm monogamous. Which means I don't have sex with, play with or submit to anyone else. If I kowtowed to any idiot who put a sir or madam in front of their name, I would be submitting to them. Here, that's against my rules.

Besides, he's smart and doesn't suffer fools gladly. So he has no problems with me responding bluntly to some twit who then whines that we're all cruel.

My only online rule is that if I get hot under the collar over forum posts, my time here will be severely curtailed. YMMV

Plus there are cultural issues here. I'm a New Yorker, we are sarcastic as a rule. If you aren't, then don't date one of us.

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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 8:36:49 AM   
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i think some of the Doms in question say they are not being rude, that is their brand of saracastic humor. i will say something in kind thinking i am being funny as well, sometimes i read it again and it wasnt that humorous but i thought it was at the time lol. If they get silly and go to the quick smart ass humor with me, i might do it back, ya never know :).

i also tend to think of the boards as the girls coffee klatch, especially the submissive one, a place i can talk about things i cant tell my girlfriends. If a Dom chimes in with saracasm well, he stepped into the fray and we are all on coffee highs. i dont talk to men i am interested in that way, but then, they are not talking to me that way either.

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RE: Does your response matter? - 1/2/2010 8:46:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: hisdarlinsweetie

I'm sorry if I offended you Missokyst. I was not trying to boast. I understand that everyone has their way of doing things, and what works for my Sir and I doesn't work for everyone. I added it to give some background in my thinking and experience. I was just interested in what I was observing, which got me wondering if how we communicate on the message boards matter in real life. I don't care if someone claims to be d, m, s or vanilla in terms of treating them with respect or ignoring them. You're right that I think that subs should act "more becoming" if they are being rude, name calling or insulting, but not because they are subs; because they are people. I also think that doms should act "more becoming" if they are being rude, name calling or insulting. So should vanillas. But, as I stated before, I mostly saw this behavior coming from female subs. Perhaps it's because I read the sub/slave and master forums and this type of behavior is common in the Domme, poly, gor, etc threads too. Since I'm a female sub with a male Dom, I don't really look at the other forums much.




You may not be understanding the back story. When I was new on the boards, I felt so sorry for a few people. Thought people were being mean to them. But I had not seen what came before or the attacks they made on others. I also didnt see the rude e-mails they sent to certain people attacking them through e-mail. Nor the fact that these unbalanced people were posting with more than one profile.

Things said in word often do come off terse, when it wasnt intended that way. I can be a fun and warm person in real time , but maybe you wouldnt think so unless you liked my written sense of humor.

Alot ofthe subs who have been here awhile have learned to unite when someone comes trolling and starting inflammatory threads like,"why are all subs fat?" or "these are your rules,"shut the fuck up and do what youre told and Ill abuse you because Im the Dominant".

These types of threads are not Dominant behavior. As far as ignoring them,the person does eventually get ignored. However we do try to educate and give people the benefit of the doubt.

Believe me, if things got really insulting, we do have moderators that write us personally and tell us to knock it off.

What I would tell you is to stick around longer before you decide some of us are "mean girls".
The ones i thought were mean are the people I respect the most. Just dont take words on a post personally and remember what someone writes and how it is intended and how another takes it, isn't always the same.We interpret things according to our experiences and a lot of it is projection.

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