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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex
Now if you could find a secret mind control technique to get them to WANT to spend a Saturday shopping for plunge routers at Home Depot, then thats a different story.

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ORIGINAL: osf

has anyone used Operant conditioning intentionally to introduce a woman to slavery?

Operant conditioning technically defined as, Operant conditioning (sometimes referred to as instrumental conditioning) is a method of learning that occurs through rewards and punishments for behavior. Through operant conditioning, an association is made between a behavior and a consequence for that behavior.

I realize that most use a form of this unconsciously but has anyone done this as a planed course of conditioning and how did it work out?

Also has anyone used it on older slaves that may have been in service before?

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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: osf

has anyone used Operant conditioning intentionally to introduce a woman to slavery?

Operant conditioning technically defined as, Operant conditioning (sometimes referred to as instrumental conditioning) is a method of learning that occurs through rewards and punishments for behavior. Through operant conditioning, an association is made between a behavior and a consequence for that behavior.

I realize that most use a form of this unconsciously but has anyone done this as a planed course of conditioning and how did it work out?

Also has anyone used it on older slaves that may have been in service before?

Classical conditioning is that which creates an association between a behviour and a 'conditiinned' event. Operant conditioning provides an opportunity for contact with rewards but the behavioiur is 'operated' and of free will They are often confused but quite opposite types of cnditioning.
Forgive me: just because you are using the terms rewards and punishment are you certain of the difference between the two approaches?
And what has age got to do with it?

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Taken from your post.
 

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The three people involved in the d/s relationship. In a relationship of a dominant and submissive there is a third person always present. The dominant is most always the same as his dominance is internal to him, and his demeanor may not show what he is thinking, even when he is thinking about his submissive. The submissive on the other hand has two personas that she brings to the relationship, making 3 individuals in the relationship. The first is the thinking functioning woman, the woman that the world sees everyday, the woman that may have a prestigious position in the everyday work world. She may be highly educated, be very intelligent and have myriad interests, but her submissive persona will always drive her back to her dominant to serve his pleasure where she will have to subdue the thinking functioning woman. In effect attempting to turn her off, because the thinking woman may try to interfere with her true needful destiny. Often the thinking woman rebels and the submissive may need the help of her dominant in conquering the thinking woman. In effect there are two people trying to liberate the submissive from within, the dominant and the submissive persona. This is a struggle faced by many submissives everyday and won everyday. Its a struggle the thoughtful dominant realizes has to be faced, and gladly faces. For only by overcoming the thinking woman can the dominant and the submissive realize her true potential.

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This is actually what I was referring to.  Following your reasoning, if a woman falls early enough into a 'capable' dominants hands, then the dichotomy you refer to, might not exist.  I'm not so sure I agree....but when I put together your post, with different remarks you have made on these posts, and throw in your journal musings - I get a clearer understanding of what you actually mean, as opposed to what you toss out every few seconds on the boards.  This is why I said, if you took enough time to allow your brain to catch up with your fingers, you might not be so "misunderstood."

WinD

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ORIGINAL: MistressEllen444
I have a full woodworking complement of tools, including a 2 1/2 hp plunge router (porter cable).

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder
Is d/s really this hard to understand??

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This is actually what I was referring to.  Following your reasoning, if a woman falls early enough into a 'capable' dominants hands, then the dichotomy you refer to, might not exist.  I'm not so sure I agree....but when I put together your post, with different remarks you have made on these posts, and throw in your journal musings - I get a clearer understanding of what you actually mean, as opposed to what you toss out every few seconds on the boards.  This is why I said, if you took enough time to allow your brain to catch up with your fingers, you might not be so "misunderstood."

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Sorry.  My GPS doesn't have 'that special place' programmed into it.  Care to elaborate?

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ORIGINAL: frazzle

Where BDSM or sex is concerned, i want an adult realtionship.

My inner child is , i have a sense of fun can laugh and play kids games.

it has nothing to do with an adult realtionship

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Hi Frazzle,

The inner child, can refer to having a sense of vulnerability, peace and trust in a relationship with someone.  I probably missed the reference you are using when you responded to Osf, and I'm not intending to be his advocate or taking sides.  When someone refers to the inner child in reference to BDSM, I equate it with my own need that arises at times, when I have a strong desire to curl up in someone's lap and feel safe.  When my need to connect, over-rides my need to self-protect.  I don't see myself as a child.  It isn't age play.  Not sure if this makes sense to you or not.

WinD