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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 5:55:06 PM   
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rex , please contribute

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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 5:59:10 PM   
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it equates to the relationship, BDSM is an activity (quote osf)

D/s is part of the BDSM acronym, but Ds doesnt have to be part of the BDSM that you enjoy. from my understanding there is topping and bottoming that is the 'other' aspect of Ds that people enter into with each other who otherwise might have no other relationship with each other.

within the BDSM acronym you have B - bondage, DS - dominance and submission, SM - sado/masochism.

strictly speaking you include Ds when you refer to BDSM. looking at it that way though, what it doesnt include is Ms (?)

its a 'fits all' term to encorporate everyone who basically enjoys all or some of the BDSM menu.



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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:01:42 PM   
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d/s doesn't have to include any kink at all, a strict evangelical couple could have a d/s relationship

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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:03:49 PM   
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to me d/s is the nature of the relationship nothing more

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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:05:01 PM   
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first care for the relationship and the kink will be easier

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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:08:22 PM   
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LOL.  Osf, you remind me of those cantankerous old farts who argue about everything, even with those who are agreeing with you.


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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:09:46 PM   
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tell me where you think i'm wrong and the kink has priority?

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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:10:49 PM   
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a kink partner is easy to get and doesn't require any real commitment

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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:11:50 PM   
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ill shut up now

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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:11:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lally2


it equates to the relationship, BDSM is an activity (quote osf)

D/s is part of the BDSM acronym, but Ds doesnt have to be part of the BDSM that you enjoy. from my understanding there is topping and bottoming that is the 'other' aspect of Ds that people enter into with each other who otherwise might have no other relationship with each other.

within the BDSM acronym you have B - bondage, DS - dominance and submission, SM - sado/masochism.

strictly speaking you include Ds when you refer to BDSM. looking at it that way though, what it doesnt include is Ms (?)

its a 'fits all' term to encorporate everyone who basically enjoys all or some of the BDSM menu.




Hi Lally and Happy New Years!!1
Actually when I used BDSM, i was thinking of it as a means to explore the inner child. There isn't no Dom/sub or Master/slave in the BDSM ...
My purpose was to use it as a method. B=bondage, D=Discipline, S=sadism and M=mascoism(sp) to tired to spell right.:)

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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:15:37 PM   
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just shakes her head and is so very glad this isn't so deep and mysterious and esoteric for her. It would give me a headache if I had to do this much thinking!


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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:15:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

tell me where you think i'm wrong and the kink has priority?



youre not wrong babe, just you keep telling people how it is and youre way isnt everybodies way.

for you, me, and plenty of people Ds is all about the relationship, it doesnt need kink and it can swim along just fine like that. but that isnt true for everyone. for some Ds is as much part of the bondage and Sm and those things are so intrinsically connected that its impossible to separate them from their Ds or Ms dynamic.

we are all minority groups here, each one of us represents yet another minority, we are all different but inherently similar too.

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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:18:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lally2


quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

tell me where you think i'm wrong and the kink has priority?



youre not wrong babe, just you keep telling people how it is and youre way isnt everybodies way.

for you, me, and plenty of people Ds is all about the relationship, it doesnt need kink and it can swim along just fine like that. but that isnt true for everyone. for some Ds is as much part of the bondage and Sm and those things are so intrinsically connected that its impossible to separate them from their Ds or Ms dynamic.

we are all minority groups here, each one of us represents yet another minority, we are all different but inherently similar too.


i come across as pedantic i know, and i'm passionate about what i think, but i don't or try not to be critical of others and attack their beliefs

i just try to convince them they're wrong lolol

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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:18:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

just shakes her head and is so very glad this isn't so deep and mysterious and esoteric for her. It would give me a headache if I had to do this much thinking!




i hear you...and prayed many of nights to not be, but finally have accepted it and embrace my crazy mind:)

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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:20:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wisdomtogive

quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

just shakes her head and is so very glad this isn't so deep and mysterious and esoteric for her. It would give me a headache if I had to do this much thinking!




i hear you...and prayed many of nights to not be, but finally have accepted it and embrace my crazy mind:)



that's his job, make him do it

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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:20:37 PM   
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Stolen from another thread that I wrote it recently:

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There's a connection that I think you're not making here.  I look at this as a BDSM site.  Sure, a lot of folks also consider it to be about D/s or M/s, but I'm not one of the people who will swap all of those letters around and give them an assignment other than what they started out as.  To Me, it is still bondage, discipline, sadism, and masochism.  Yes, it's cute and convenient that there's the "DS" in the middle and some folks use that to include Dominance and submission, but those are different things to Me.  The core of it can just as easily be seen as topping and bottoming, without a power structure really being in there for anything longer than the duration of a scene.





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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:22:40 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wisdomtogive

quote:

ORIGINAL: lally2


it equates to the relationship, BDSM is an activity (quote osf)

D/s is part of the BDSM acronym, but Ds doesnt have to be part of the BDSM that you enjoy. from my understanding there is topping and bottoming that is the 'other' aspect of Ds that people enter into with each other who otherwise might have no other relationship with each other.

within the BDSM acronym you have B - bondage, DS - dominance and submission, SM - sado/masochism.

strictly speaking you include Ds when you refer to BDSM. looking at it that way though, what it doesnt include is Ms (?)

its a 'fits all' term to encorporate everyone who basically enjoys all or some of the BDSM menu.




Hi Lally and Happy New Years!!1
Actually when I used BDSM, i was thinking of it as a means to explore the inner child. There isn't no Dom/sub or Master/slave in the BDSM ...
My purpose was to use it as a method. B=bondage, D=Discipline, S=sadism and M=mascoism(sp) to tired to spell right.:)



happy new year.

im pretty sure i saw the BDSM thing broken down to encorporate Ds too, but i could easily have misread it



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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:22:53 PM   
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shuts up again

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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:26:51 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Stolen from another thread that I wrote it recently:

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There's a connection that I think you're not making here.  I look at this as a BDSM site.  Sure, a lot of folks also consider it to be about D/s or M/s, but I'm not one of the people who will swap all of those letters around and give them an assignment other than what they started out as.  To Me, it is still bondage, discipline, sadism, and masochism.  Yes, it's cute and convenient that there's the "DS" in the middle and some folks use that to include Dominance and submission, but those are different things to Me.  The core of it can just as easily be seen as topping and bottoming, without a power structure really being in there for anything longer than the duration of a scene.






LadyPact that is why i added BDSM in my first post here, and in my 2nd post explained the mean bondage, discipline, sadism and masochism. :)

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RE: Operant conditioning - 1/2/2010 6:28:54 PM   
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Hi lally, MD Sir had me study this the first week that he started giving me assignments to learn about everything under the umbrella of BDSM. Why i remembered it tonight, even though i am exhausted. Work has been crazy today:)

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