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MasterCharles099 -> why is money so important (1/4/2010 3:54:06 AM)

I have tried for years to get married. I tried getting to know women giving them gifts talking to them wanting to love them being a gentleman. frankly the only reason i can see not giving me the time of day is because i'm not wealthy why do these women only care about wealth.



Level -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 3:56:15 AM)

Give me $20 and I'll tell you.



persephonee -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 4:08:01 AM)

Nah, give me the twenty and ill tell him....



Level -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 4:19:06 AM)

I keep the twenty and you tell him!



eyesopened -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 4:23:50 AM)

Instead of trying to get married (focusing on the outcome) why not form relationships with women who share your interests and enjoy your company?  I know I would run for the hills if I met a man who started talking marriage after just a few dates!  Smells of desperation.

Generally speaking, people can only want what you offer.  If the only thing of value you are offering is money then that's what they will focus on.  Every survey in every woman's magazine (and others) list Sense of Humor as one of the top character traits women seek.  They also look for confidence (a lot sexier than coin) and integrity.  Work to devolop those traits in yourself and you may see a different outcome.

However, it sounds like you are using money as an excuse why your relationships have been unsuccessful.  It's easier to say all women are gold-digging bitches (I know those weren't your words) than to look at yourself.  There are a plethora of women who are not money motivated.  The only common denomenator is you.



mstrslve4fun -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 4:25:12 AM)

Seriously, though, LOL, I don't know if wealth is that important, but if you are a Master and expecting a slave, i really don't think it's that far off that a woman you expect to serve you completely should expect some kind of financial security from the relationship.



myotherself -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 4:31:19 AM)

~FR~

maybe the OP is choosing the wrong type of woman?
I don't care about gifts - being with someone who will show his respect and affection is enough.

However I don't want to be in a relationship in which the guy starts out wanting to be married, and puts pressure on me (knowingly or unknowingly) to force that agenda. It takes me months to figure out if I love someone - even longer to say it. But when I do say it, the person I say it to will know it's true.

Too much 'romantic pressure' is going to make me run screaming for the hills, and I know I'm not alone in that.

As the other posters have said so well, stop coming across as desperate to get married and start just enjoying spending time with someone. And then, who knows?



CountrySong -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 4:35:07 AM)

Hummmm! That's a hard one.
Let's see could it be that we live in a consumerism driven society. No that can't be it.
Maybe it's that women to pick good providers and it takes money to provide now days. Gosh, no that can't be it!
Could it be that they like to have fun and travel and that cost money. Hum, nope definitely not that.
Could it be that they want things like a home to live in rather than a tent and the average home costs about $180,000. Naw I don't think thats it.
Maybe it's medical insurance and health care. [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m23.gif[/image] nope who needs their health.
Maybe it's because they want to have kids and each one of those costs an average of $250,000 more if they are stay at home moms. Not likely, who would want to have and care for kids. (Please note intense sarcasm.)
I got it - they like to eat things other than plain beans and rice! Yeh that must be it.
Send the $20 to me I answered the question.



onlyfreelycaged -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 4:48:19 AM)

the only reson to get married is the legual protection that comes with it. in that proction includes money.



*edited to make the post clearer*



Lucienne -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 4:54:46 AM)

Were the women who wouldn't marry you also the ones who assisted you in becoming an expert at:

Begging (Expert) Breast Play (Expert)Hoods (Expert)Humiliation (Expert)[Leashes (Expert) Massage (Getting) (Expert) Massage (Giving) (Expert) Obedience Training (Expert) Orgasm Control (Expert)Outdoor Bondage (Expert)Pony/Puppy Roleplay (Expert)[Role Playing (Expert)Rubber Fetish (Expert)Serving as a Maid/Butler (Expert) Spanking (Expert) Stockings (Expert) Uniforms (Expert) Vibrators (Expert) Watersports (Expert)[Whips (Expert)

If so, it seems to me that you're getting a little greedy.




lizi -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 5:43:30 AM)

If I look at the title of your thread it seems as though you already have your mind made up as to your lack of success with women. Generally if someone is not successful with something...anything...it's because of themselves. For instance if my goal is to obtain and keep a decent job I have to become employable and conduct myself in a manner so that my employer finds me valuable enough to keep around. If i lose that job I can't say it's my bosses fault as in he/she didn't 'like' me when it was my own fault for not getting my butt into work on time. What I obtain in life is directly related to ME and what I'm doing. It never speaks well of someone to point a finger and put the blame somewhere else.

You have set a reasonable goal for yourself. You're not trying to become an NFL player, people can and do find themselves getting married all the time. If you cannot obtain this then it's time to look within and figure out why. I mean after all if it's money that women want why are so many poor men happily married and so many rich ones single?

Other things to invest some time thinking about:
Who are you approaching? Someone gorgeous and talented or the chubby girl who works with you?
Are you pushing for marriage and asking for commitment too soon?
Are you targeting women whose goal is a long term relationship as well or women who seem to want a casual fling?
Are you a catch? Are you someone a woman would like to be with?
Are you clean, do you have manners?
Are you interesting and can hold a conversation? Do you listen as well as talk?
Do you have goals? Talents?
What do YOU have to offer outside of material objects?



wisdomtogive -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 5:51:38 AM)

Hello Charles
May I suggest some inner reflection here? You are making a broad sweeping judgment that holds no water. Interesting your words remind me of the same words I hear a lot from clients. They do not want to look at the red flags they are presenting someone they are involve in. They can't see the pattern within them that scares a possible mate away. Neediness is choking someone. There is a difference between wanting a committed relationship verses i got to have this. The later is liken to tar where it just becomes very uncomfortable. I would suggest you look at your patterns and ask yourself, how does it[pattern] serve my goal. If it is not serving you well then you need to find other means to replace them.
best of luck
wisdomtogive



antipode -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 6:17:03 AM)

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frankly the only reason i can see not giving me the time of day is because i'm not wealthy


And how is it you came to this conclusion? They actually said this to you? Conjecture?

I am not seeing the connection with BDSM in your question, either - you're trying to marry a sub? Neither from your profile nor from your question is it clear to me how the two are related, if they are.



kittinSol -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 6:19:22 AM)

Perhaps they were only using the excuse that you were poor to get rid of you? Why would you spend years "trying to get married"?

I bloody well hope it's not because you wanted to secure some nightly nookie [;)], because that wouldn't be very flattering to any woman. Know what I mean? (Probably not.)



DarkSteven -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 6:34:01 AM)

OP, let me rephrase your post.

I want to get married.  I have tried very hard. Here are the things I have done... I feel I have no flaws except that I'm not rich.  Why do women only care about money?

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Bluntly, I suggest that you acquire more maturity.  If you comport yourself as a Master should, you should have no problems.  Part of that is to have greater self-awareness than to say that you have no issues other than money.  Part of that is to give other things than material ones to your women, so that you don't get bitter about the money you've spent.  And part of that is communicating with them and seeing how they feel about the relationship - and taking the answer maturely and changing the relationship if necessary.



LaTigresse -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 6:35:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterCharles099

I have tried for years to get married. I tried getting to know women giving them gifts talking to them wanting to love them being a gentleman. frankly the only reason i can see not giving me the time of day is because i'm not wealthy why do these women only care about wealth.


You are not giving us nearly enough information to get a clear picture of why your relationships have not been successful. However, I would bet a year's pay that it has nothing at all to do with your financial status.



allthatjaz -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 6:35:33 AM)

I think lizi has made some really good points here and I'm not at all sure what Countrysong is trying to say [8|]

You have to ask yourself one question... do you really want a fancy handbag?
Many women are self sufficient. Many women are not impressed with someone elses money and the majority of women don't weigh a guys wallet before they consider a relationship.

Oh and btw Countrysong, last summer I lived with my partner in a tepee (yes a tent!!). We had to budget every meal and keep warm at night with the wood we had collected from the fields and ya know what? that was richest and most rewarding experience I have ever had and a time when the love for my partner became deeper than anything I had ever known. Our nights out no longer consist of showing off my new and expensive outfit and dining on a five course meal in a fancy restaurant, it consists of sitting by the riverside with real friends and playing our guitars and singing along to some old favorite.
The day I walked away from money was the sweetest day of my life.



MsDDom -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 6:45:41 AM)

...because society has made it important. Society promotes that to be happy one must have things...and the only way that one can acquire things is by having the means (money) to do so.

IMHO, that is how I view it. "For the love of money"...men, women, and children want money.



zephyroftheNorth -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 7:02:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Level

I keep the twenty and you tell him!


Nice bait and switch Level.



persephonee -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 7:04:58 AM)

wait....im not getting the twenty???[:(]



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