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InvisibleBlack -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 6:24:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterCharles099 frankly the only reason i can see not giving me the time of day is because i'm not wealthy why do these women only care about wealth. -FR- Obviously I've been going about this all wrong. I'm very goal oriented. How much money do I need to accumulate to have my picks of teh wimmens?

persephonee -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 6:25:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Level quote: ORIGINAL: persephonee Yes, Sir...... (and it only took like...twelve hours to wear him down, ladies!) We're gonna rename you "chinese water torture". [:-] persistant and effective. Come here, youre late for your 'treatment'.

osf -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 10:08:50 PM)
money is important to keep poor people from reproducing

CountrySong -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 11:06:43 PM)
MasterCharles099 The most interesting fact about my post is that I only said three sentences. (as I define a sentence) and I got three pages of peoples suggestions and comments. Now I might be more confused then ever To end the confusion - Stop whining and start winning! I just read your profile and it is very negative. I do not know what your finances look but I do know how you feel because money was an issue for me in the past. Obviousely you feel your finances are not enough to reach your dream of finding a good mate and most likely you are right - especially in the age group you are most likely hunting in. You need to take care of your issues before you try and take care of someone elses. Here are my suggestions: Stop dating - Since money is such a focus in your dating life. Stop dating an put the marrage dream to the side - dating and women are expensive and time consuming. Show some backbone and stop thinking with your dick and put your search for a mate on hold while you solve your issues. (I saved $3000 in the 3 years I was with my EX. In the two years we have been seperated I paid off or settled almost $70,000 in debt and have built enough cash up to by my land and build my home. So I know it can be done!) Start learning about money - You need to put a realistic plan together that will take you to the place you believe you will be attractive financially at in 5 to 10 years. My guess is that you don't know enough about money to do that so you need to learn. A good place to start might be the Dave Ramsey since you can get most of his information for free online, over the radio, or on TV. (I listen to Dave often not because I believe everything he teaches but because getting out of major debt and rebuilding wealth is hard and you need constant reinforcement.) Get yourself a toy or use your hand to take care of your needs. You can get all the porn you want on the web. Get a dog. It really sounds like you are lonely and depressed based on your profile. My personal experience is that women tend to have expectations and they are wise to have those expectaions. Dogs love unconditionally. Get to work. At the half way mark to financial freedom start dating again! Most girls don't really expect you to be rich but they do want to see that you have something built and have a plan to get to a future that can make their dreams come true. Never forget that money is just as critical to any relationship as love. I've read all the "Money Does Not Matter" posts. Bullshit! I spent years doing faith based financial counselling. I saw hundreds of couples on the verge of divorce. Not because they did not love each other; but rather, because thier financial issues where causing so much pain in their lives. Money issues might not be a big deal at first but over time they will cut through your love like a river cuts through stone. Good luck and if you really want to talk about this and not just whine then C-mail me.

CountrySong -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 11:28:56 PM)
xssve Good for you. Statistically speaking however, the average age of first marriage has been rising steadily and is currently hovering somewhere in the early Thirties - i.e., people are spending more time developing careers before they settle down. My take on that statistic - they are waiting longer because the can no longer find decent men who are financially stable and wealthy enough to provide them financial security, stability, and a family. Also women are not stupid. They know going into a relationship that 50% end in divorce and the most likely person to end up in poverty is a single woman with kids. I have rarely met the mother of a new born who said - "Gosh I really can't wait to turn my child over to someone else so that I can go back to work 10 to 12 hours a day and have my baby with me mainly on weekends!" I've known several high income women who made over $100,000 a year and had great "careers." Want to know what the number 1 dream among those who had kids was - "To be able to stay home and be a mommy!" The number two dream among all of them was to be able to work less. The number three dream was to travel. Most women are not out there developing careers and waiting longer to get married because they want to. They are waiting because they are smart enough to protect themselves from men who can no longer be trust to provide for them or to stay with them for better or for worse.

CountrySong -> RE: why is money so important (1/4/2010 11:50:13 PM)
InvisibleBlack Obviously I've been going about this all wrong. I'm very goal oriented. How much money do I need to accumulate to have my picks of teh wimmens? [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m21.gif[/image]Hummmm - Start with a million dollar net worth and a $100,000 annual income that will be enough to get you started on the millionaire and sugar daddy sites. If you really want to be financially attractive do 10 million and at least $500,000 per year that makes you a deca millionaire which is very hot for women who seek wealthy guys! (It's kinda like the difference between having a 1 inch dick and a 10 inch dick.) Also you might want to change you profile name and but millionaire in it. A guy I chatted with that on another site did that and for good measure listed some assets. If I remember right it was something like - Lonely millionaire doctor with ten room mansion on a 30 acre estate on a lake seeks companionship. All needs provided for including car plus an allowance to be negotiated. Horses, boating, shows and other entertianment included. Travel visa required as I plan on visiting Scottland this year. I think he got over a hundred responses on the first day and removed his profile within a week. In the end he had three girl toys to play with and I guess lived happily ever after. Of course if you don't have that kind of money there are always extremely hot girl toys who will treat you very well and will marry a middle income American in Mexico, South America, The Former Soviet Union, and India. Yes, I'm being sarcastic but it is all totally true!

allthatjaz -> RE: why is money so important (1/5/2010 4:28:44 AM)
What sort of money are we talking about here CountrySong? are we talking about enough money to buy credit or are we talking about enough money not to buy credit? I look back at my married life and cringe. The big house in suburbia, the kids at the best schools around, the expensive cars, luxury holidays and expensive clothes shopping on a whim and a groom to take care of my horses. It was all paid for on affordable debt. The bank manager loved us. We had credit imprinted on our foreheads! and the funniest part of all of that is we believed we were wealthy! I lived for so long in a gilded cage and my life was full of pretense. I always believed that a new car or a bigger house would make things better and back then that is all I aspired to. I wasn’t in love with my husband, he was just my provider and I was nothing more than his fancy handbag. My life was nothing more than a hollow charade. I walked away with nothing more than a bag. I stuck one finger up and told him he could keep the lot. My ex husband and me are now good friends. He loves the fact that I made absolutely no demands. Even his family still love me!! I fell into a relationship where my new partner pushed me to get my share. He desperately wanted a taste of that money that he felt was owed to me. I refused and eventually walked away. I started mixing with different circles. No more dinner at Claridge’s, no more shopping in Mayfair, no more fitting in with the Jones and no more smiling bank managers! Oh I had mummy phoning me constantly asking me when I was going to start being sensible and get over this silly phase? (she still does, all these years later!) I re-built my life from nothing and I enjoyed ever moment of it. My biggest decision was never to have credit again and never buy anything that I didn’t really need. Everything I bought would be with my well earned cash. I even managed to save for an old jalopy of a car which I named ‘The Custard’ and rent myself enough space to be creative with my art work. There were only two people from my past life that could truly understand and see my happiness and they were my kids. For the first time in their lives they could see a real person, a mother, their mum. One of the main reasons I am with Stephen is because he has been through a similar background and like me, money did not afford him happiness. Having enough money to get by, keep us warm, put food in our mouths and clothe us is of course important. We have learnt to be responsible with money but at the same time we don’t allow any debt to take a grip of us. The main reason we can sail off as and when we want is because we have no debt. We have afforded ourselves freedom and that freedom had brought us a very unique happiness. You may put all of this down to bullshit and I understand why. If I had remained with my ex sugar daddy and he had lost everything then I would of been amongst those couples sitting in your financial counseling office thinking my world had come to an end! The difference between them and me is that I looked beyond the end of my nose.

DarkSteven -> RE: why is money so important (1/5/2010 5:32:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf money is important to keep poor people from reproducing Hasn't worked so far...

osf -> RE: why is money so important (1/5/2010 5:35:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven quote: ORIGINAL: osf money is important to keep poor people from reproducing Hasn't worked so far... the poor keep lowering their standards

slaveluci -> RE: why is money so important (1/5/2010 5:37:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Perhaps they were only using the excuse that you were poor to get rid of you? Why would you spend years "trying to get married"? I bloody well hope it's not because you wanted to secure some nightly nookie [;)], because that wouldn't be very flattering to any woman. Know what I mean? (Probably not.) Marriage is a way to "secure some nightly nookie?" Hah....bet a lot of married guys could wise him up on that score[:D] luci

CountrySong -> RE: why is money so important (1/5/2010 6:36:23 AM)
[sm=applause.gif] allthatjaz Like I said you really are the exception to the rule. Definitely no DEBT! I learned that lesson the hard way. I'm an all cash person now. Like you said the secret of money and happiness is enough! You have your "enough." I'm working on my "enough." My enough is probably higher than yours because I want to have enough to not have to work so that I can travel and enjoy more of the things I want. The OP does not have his enough because it is still a major concern in his life. Enough is different for all of us. If you look at the feild of positive psychology then you will see that people in the United States are much less likely to rate their lives as very happy if they make less than $20,000 per year when compared to people who make over $100,000. Yet there is very little difference in the happiness levels of those who make over $75,000 and those who make over $125,000. Oh and money does actually by you more time in the United States. Millionaires live on average 3 years longer than people who live below the poverty. Because they can afford better healthcare, better diets, fewer early deaths, ect.

ranja -> RE: why is money so important (1/5/2010 6:56:43 AM)
i do not understand people who think they are rich while the banks own them i have only ever been interested in men who have a drive to make their own money and also live within their means i am happy to contribute to the finances, but i am not a career type of person and i don't have the education or skills to make as much money as i would like to spend... i need a man who can earn and handle finances haha... call me a gold digger we have had to curb our spending in this recession and i do not understand why so many people do not even seem to notice we are in a recession... how can they still afford all these holidays?... spending over x-mas was more than it was last year... i mean wtf?

kiwisub12 -> RE: why is money so important (1/5/2010 7:25:34 AM)
The men i have been serious about had nothing to do with money - except they all have had jobs. I tend to follow my heart, and sometimes it isn't sensible, but then, sensible or not, it found me my Sir, and i have never been happier. Of course, i am past the age of reproduction so the provider role is obsolete for me. And like others, i try to stay away from debt - 10yr old car (toyota, very reliable), paying off debt as fast as i can, no credit cards - if i can't pay cash i don't get it. I paid cash for my flight to New Zealand this year, and wouldn't have gone if i didn't have the money. I came through the baby years, and now am happy with less - less debt, less money, less hassel in my life, less anxiety, less worrying that someone will think i am not as good as they because i don't have a new car/house/sofa/necklace. I think you have to live with the negative consequence of money and its aftermath to really appreciate how good it can be not to worry about that stuff. OP - that doesn't help you at all, but when you date, look for someone you can actually live with 24/7/365 - not someone to marry. Its more important to find someone that in 4 or 19 years that you don't lie in bed and fantasise about shooting them and claiming that you thought they were an intruder, then actually walking down the aisle. (not that i ever thought that![8\|])

mnottertail -> RE: why is money so important (1/5/2010 7:47:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slaveluci quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Perhaps they were only using the excuse that you were poor to get rid of you? Why would you spend years "trying to get married"? I bloody well hope it's not because you wanted to secure some nightly nookie [;)], because that wouldn't be very flattering to any woman. Know what I mean? (Probably not.) Marriage is a way to "secure some nightly nookie?" Hah....bet a lot of married guys could wise him up on that score[:D] luci Let's not turn this into a thread about fucking the dead, please. Ron

slutslave4u -> RE: why is money so important (1/5/2010 8:23:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Level Yes, right after she said, "round the world, ten dollar, Joe?"... [X(] Damn inflation........whatever happened to "2 dollar Joe, 2 dollar"

slutslave4u -> RE: why is money so important (1/5/2010 8:27:03 AM)
[/quote] We're gonna rename you "chinese water torture". [:-] [/quote] Did someone say "torture"? mmmmm "drooling"

UniqueRaven -> RE: why is money so important (1/5/2010 8:42:54 AM)
Just some thoughts i have learned over the last 5 years or so (and those of you who know me know why i can speak to this): Money is a tool, not a value. Some of the most miserable, unhappy people in the world that i have ever met also happen to be some of the wealthiest people on this planet. If you are unhappy, money tends to just magnify that emotion. Money problems in relationships are often even bigger the more money you have, not the other way around. i often say, i have had rich days in my life, and i have had poor days, and chances are i will have both again. But it's my life, and i choose happiness, regardless of my financial status. [:)]

slavebowale -> RE: why is money so important (1/5/2010 9:02:18 AM)
money is essential to every human..but i myself im not after money....all i want is true love and who gonna love me for the rest of my life.

mnottertail -> RE: why is money so important (1/5/2010 9:35:54 AM)
dat gonna be 20 dollah

thishereboi -> RE: why is money so important (2/27/2010 6:06:14 AM)
Well after reading many of your posts and looking at your profile, I think it's safe to say that money has nothing to do with your problem. Maybe you should look for the common denominator in all this. Good luck with that[8\|]

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