sunshinemiss -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/5/2010 8:31:23 AM)
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Heck I had this all written out and lost it. *le sigh. ORIGINAL: Icarys quote:
ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss Hello Icarys and osf, When did "being bratty" come to equal "Hard to handle"? Hmmmm? Hard to handle to me means a woman who doesn't just fall down saying "Oh yes, grand poopah brilliant one... You are soooooooo smart and soooooooo wise, and I am nothing without you. Lead me." Bullshit. I'm hard work. Why am I work? Because I want to anticipate the needs of the man I am with. I want to please him. I am work because I am not an automaton who has no thoughts of my own but I do want to find a way to mesh what I know to be true and his own views. (and yes, there really are things that I know to be true). I'm hard to handle because I want to be able to understand the way he thinks. Therefore, I need to know him, experience him in a vast number of situations, discussions, arguments even, and to trust him. That makes me hard to handle. This does not mean I am mean spirited, defiant or bratty. It means I am a woman with a strong personality and a certain level of intellect. Some men can't meet up with that kind of pressure because I run circles around them. I don't want to be with a man that is three steps behind me, and I've already thought up all the possible scenarios in a situation and he hasn't even realized there is a situation. That makes me hard to handle. And by the way, I'm also the one you want to totally have your back because I have ... you know.... a backbone of my own! There is a difference between CHOOSING to NOT handle a spirited woman and NOT BEING CAPABLE of handling her. People who would classify me as too hard to handle are not capable of handling me. That is about intelligence. There are other people who look at me and decide I'm not their particular FLAVOR of hard to handle. Those people choose not to handle me. That is compatibility. And gentlemen, you know as well as I do that your bitchy, elbow rubbing, locker room attempts at insulting me are nothing short of immature. You have shown quite a lot about the type of men you are. Icarys, I'm very disappointed to see this in you. Best, sunshine quote:
No all that up above is bullshit. You got caught with your pants down and need to spin it now to make it look positive for you. Justify it..Go ahead..It just took you a bit to do it. Hi Icarys, I thought that you made a really good point of showing me that I wasn't clear. I always appreciate when people let me know that. I still appreciate it. I've no need to spin or justify. I did feel a need to clarify. And as for taking a bit to do it? I went to bed and slept. *shrugs. quote:
I'm good with that and if I get judged harshly because of it..I'm okay with that as well. I'll still be here and none of you other than the mods will be able to run me off like you tried to do with Pyshconaut. I've got a much thicker skin than that. Let the skewering begin Icarys, I don't know who you are talking to about trying to run people off. I certainly didn't try to run him off. (was he run off?) I responded to his posts (as I am yours) ... we disagreed, so what?. quote:
I've noticed your good at that (Twisting the truth)and your fans will of course applaud the loudest..(Why? Birds of a feather. If you mean that I'm capable of seeing more than one side of a discussion, that is true. If you mean, I'm able to articulate that, (generally) that is true. I stand by the spirit of what I said. And my fans? CarrieO - she's my friend. LOL. I don't need people to agree with me because I say something. It is certainly a good feeling to hear when people I respect agree with me. *I remember the first time Aswad and I had a discussion. I was really touched. And the other day LadyPact agreed with me, and I certainly felt good about that. But that is about my respect for them. quote:
I had come back to apologize at the way I assessed you earlier because I think I could have done that in a nicer way. I did mean what I said but the way in which I said it wasn't mature as far as I'm concerned. I went back and pulled up your post to me, and I'm adding it here: quote:
Okay let me get this straight...You say you are hard to handle in your own words and then go on to put down someone else who points that out to you when you already agree to it..Those people are then seen as dumber than you? Wouldn't that include you as well since you were the one to pint it out on the thread? Did nobody else see any of that while they were patting her on the back lol I thought that was a very good point of my not being clear in what I was saying. quote:
Not only do I see a whole lot of absurdities with that whole statement..The essence of it is a load as well. Just when I thought it was safe to go outside. You may think it is a load.. and that's fine. quote:
Change your name to partlycloudymiss or sunnywithachanceofrain maybe? I thought that was funny. And actually I've used that when I've been sad. Heh. You did not attack me. You challenged what I was saying. You pointed out something where I wasn't clear. You said that you think I have written something absurd. How is that immature? You disagreed with me. That's cool. Also, I don't think you were "not nice". I did think that your interactions with osf were not quite your typical style, and that surprised me, and I said so. Best, sunshine
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