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UniqueRaven -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 4:37:20 PM)
i enjoy being silly in a relationship - it is the "little girl" side of me. And sometimes being silly i may waggle my rear end or stick out my tongue or pout or something like that, and it is fun when my Owner/Master gives me a smack on the rear or whatever he wants in return. It's just a fun moment between us that reinforces for me who is absolutely in charge, even if i'm being silly. But outright bratty and defiant, no. Being obedient is a core value of my submission, for me. That said, as pointed out, there are many who enjoy it. For some, the "play" of brattiness, the resulting punishment, it reinforces their dynamic - and it's fun for them. There are also men who enjoy having a strong, independent woman who isn't afraid to speak her truth being brought to her knees - by him, and for him. i wouldn't fit into one of these relationships, but for those that do, they're having fun and connecting with their partners in a meaningful way - for them. It takes all sorts to make a world, and as long as you and yours are happy, why judge anyone else? julie

osf -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 4:45:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven i enjoy being silly in a relationship - it is the "little girl" side of me. And sometimes being silly i may waggle my rear end or stick out my tongue or pout or something like that, and it is fun when my Owner/Master gives me a smack on the rear or whatever he wants in return. It's just a fun moment between us that reinforces for me who is absolutely in charge, even if i'm being silly. But outright bratty and defiant, no. Being obedient is a core value of my submission, for me. That said, as pointed out, there are many who enjoy it. For some, the "play" of brattiness, the resulting punishment, it reinforces their dynamic - and it's fun for them. There are also men who enjoy having a strong, independent woman who isn't afraid to speak her truth being brought to her knees - by him, and for him. i wouldn't fit into one of these relationships, but for those that do, they're having fun and connecting with their partners in a meaningful way - for them. It takes all sorts to make a world, and as long as you and yours are happy, why judge anyone else? julie i never castigated it , i just said it's not for me, i just wrote this, i'll share it here The submissive woman the terminator. A submissive woman’s sexuality is unceasing in it’s appetite and need. That sexual need is there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever. Most men that think they are dominants don’t understand that simple fact which is why they burn and crash.

UniqueRaven -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 4:50:06 PM)
My apologies osf, i wasn't specifically directing the question at you, it was more just rhetorical. i don't know that i would qualify my sexuality as unceasing in it's appetite and need. That implies (for me) that in some way i am controlled by my sexuality, which i'm not. My sexuality complements everything else about me that makes me slave, but it isn't in control of me in any way, and it isn't what i need to be Owned for. And it does stop, at times.......but all this is really another thread. [;)]

Jeffff -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 4:50:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf A submissive woman’s sexuality is unceasing in it’s appetite and need. That sexual need is there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever. Most men that think they are dominants don’t understand that simple fact which is why they burn and crash. osf every once in a while you post something I think makes sense...... then you give us this? What does that mean? Seriously? It is all about her sexuality? It is presented as profound, yet it says nothing clearly. Jeff

osf -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 4:53:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven My apologies osf, i wasn't specifically directing the question at you, it was more just rhetorical. i don't know that i would qualify my sexuality as unceasing in it's appetite and need. That implies (for me) that in some way i am controlled by my sexuality, which i'm not. My sexuality complements everything else about me that makes me slave, but it isn't in control of me in any way, and it isn't what i need to be Owned for. And it does stop, at times.......but all this is really another thread. [;)] i beg to differ, your a woman, it's the only thing you really instinctively know how to be, your whole existence revolves around that fact and well i've had submissive like i described same goes for men so don't feel special

UniqueRaven -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 5:00:24 PM)
i see my identity as a woman as independent of my sexuality. Being a woman (female) is my sex, not my sexuality. Would you like to start another thread?

osf -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 5:02:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven i see my identity as a woman as independent of my sexuality. Being a woman (female) is my sex, not my sexuality. Would you like to start another thread? it's not that either of us is wrong, maybe we're looking at the same thing and describing it differently

UniqueRaven -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 5:06:59 PM)
i understand, quite possible - i think i can see where you're going with the idea, but perhaps it isn't ready for "prime time" yet. j

osf -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 5:08:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven i understand, quite possible - i think i can see where you're going with the idea, but perhaps it isn't ready for "prime time" yet. j so it would seen neither am i

DesFIP -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 5:18:13 PM)
Nobody's sexuality is unceasing and unfulfillable. All of us are a lot more than our sexuality. Dominants who see us as people, and not just libidos, do much better in having a relationship that doesn't crash and burn.

osf -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 5:21:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP Nobody's sexuality is unceasing and unfulfillable. All of us are a lot more than our sexuality. Dominants who see us as people, and not just libidos, do much better in having a relationship that doesn't crash and burn. the variability if female sexuality is immense, i have had that, i was awe struck i don't think even most women understand how much that is true

wisdomtogive -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 5:33:53 PM)
quote: A submissive woman’s sexuality is unceasing in it’s appetite and need. That sexual need is there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever. Most men that think they are dominants don’t understand that simple fact which is why they burn and crash. Please explain how you came to make a general swipe of all submissive women? Our sexual need knows no pity, remore or fear? It cannot be bargained with? Please explain all of this. I totally disagree, and can't even fathom what you are talking about. I been in a female body for 58 years plus, and yes i have a sexual nature and need, but it does not consume me? It does not come first when the person(s) i am with are tired and don't want to 'please my sexual nature'. I am more then my sex drive much more and do not fit into your blanket statement. I would love to hear you explain this though, in case i am wrong about myself being a woman and a sexual creature.

osf -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 5:36:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: wisdomtogive quote: A submissive woman’s sexuality is unceasing in it’s appetite and need. That sexual need is there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever. Most men that think they are dominants don’t understand that simple fact which is why they burn and crash. Please explain how you came to make a general swipe of all submissive women? Our sexual need knows no pity, remore or fear? It can be bargained with? Please explain all of this. I totally disagree, and can't even fathom what you are talking about. I been in a female body for 58 years plus, and yes i have a sexual nature and need, but it does not consume me? It does not come first when the person(s) i am with are tired and don't want to 'please my sexual nature'. I am more then my sex drive much more and do not fit into your blanket statement. I would love to hear you explain this though, in case i am wrong about myself being a woman and a sexual creature. like everybody i speak from my experience not every ones experience and see previous post i made

wisdomtogive -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 5:41:47 PM)
Okay, then i do understand. This is your own experience. Own experiences can never be made into a blanket generalization that all women are this way, and even most women don't know it. I am sure looking at this you can see why this should not be done.

osf -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 5:44:15 PM)
quote: I am sure looking at this you can see why this should not be done. not sure i understand

sexyred1 -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 5:47:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: osf A submissive woman’s sexuality is unceasing in it’s appetite and need. That sexual need is there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever. Most men that think they are dominants don’t understand that simple fact which is why they burn and crash. WTF? You are making it sound like women's sexuality is Godzilla and men are Japan.

UniqueRaven -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 5:48:20 PM)
Wisdom is saying that you will never experience every woman, so you can't speak for every woman. You can only speak for the experiences that you've had with the women you have had in your life. And those experiences may be skewed, because you are always the one picking those women to be with - and there may be some reason within you that causes you to continue to pick women that are similiar. Does that help? [:)] (edited to add: Wisdom if i'm wrong please correct me)

osf -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 5:50:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven Wisdom is saying that you will never experience every woman, so you can't speak for every woman. You can only speak for the experiences that you've had with the women you have had in your life. And those experiences may be skewed, because you are always the one picking those women to be with - and there may be some reason within you that causes you to continue to pick women that are similiar. Does that help? [:)] (edited to add: Wisdom if i'm wrong please correct me) i've had from fridged to hey boys lets have a party, i'd say thats kinda variable

wisdomtogive -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 5:51:01 PM)
Perhaps then you might wish to think about it.

osf -> RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle.......... (1/4/2010 5:52:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: wisdomtogive Perhaps then you might wish to think about it. why should i think about it and never be sure , when i can ask you?

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