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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 6:09:59 AM   
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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 6:11:25 AM   
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Sandra put it beautifully.

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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 6:11:57 AM   
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gotcha.


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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 6:30:03 AM   
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I think I've got as much right to bitch about it as the people who think it makes them more interesting have to bitch back at me for complaining about it. There's a "hide poster" feature for anyone who doesn't want to hear what I have to say. It'll neither make or break my day either way.

Hee hee! Fair enough! I hope you're having a great evening!



Thanks. I actually was until I made the stupid decision to take yet another run at this particular windmill.... I fucking give up....


If people here are bothering you so much that you are taking things personally and its ruining your day, then perhaps its time to push back from the computer.

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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 6:34:03 AM   
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It may be obvious that this was brought on by another thread. Is there really such a thing as too far when it comes to humor?

Monty Python comes to mind, "twit of the year race". Isn't that making fun of mentally handicapped? Am I the only one who laughed  when I saw it the first time?

Is there a line to be crossed? If so who decides?


Hello Jeff,
This thread is at 12 pages which means there has been some kind of argument going on.  I am not going to read that, but I am going to respond to your OP.

I went to see the Aristocrats years ago.  Funniest movie I think I've ever seen.  They were not prejudice - they made fun of everybody!  I loved it!  Other people walked out of it, but not me.  I was crying and almost fell on the floor I was laughing so hard.

I went to a party where a guy dressed as a child molester.  His lover was dressed as a little boy.  Before we went, they came to me and asked me what I thought... was it too offensive.  *I was working in child welfare, dealing with abused and neglected (and molested) children.  I LOVED the costumes.  Laughed and laughed.

I called someone dumb as a box of rocks one time and was chastised for making fun of mentally handicapped people.  I turned to that woman and said, "I get up every morning and fight for the rights of mentally handicapped people.  I go to work every day and make sure those children are safe.  I will not stop myself from blowing off a little steam when I am with friends just because you are offended. Blowing off steam allows me to maintain my sanity so I can walk back into a courtroom or an abuse situation and fight for the very children you are chastising me about.  What do you do?  Nothing, that's what.  When you get up every morning and fight for these children, you can chastise me.  Until then, shut the fuck up."

The reason these stories are ok in my mind is because of what was underneath it all.  Tremendous respect for what was happening.  The child molester folks were absolutely fierce about protecting abused children (and animals for that matter).  They had put themselves in actual danger to save children before.  The Aristocrats - they made fun of everybody!  They paid attention to the tiniest details of people and respect people so much, enjoy them, and celebrate the crazy quirks of people.  That is why they were funny.  Because they love people.  People walked out of that movie because of THEIR OWN issues that they had not dealt with.  A man was offended by my neighbor's costume because he'd been molested and had not faced that trauma in his life.  The woman who told me to stop saying what I said was angry because she felt guilty for doing nothing.

There is a difference between laughing at a situation and taunting in a mean spirited way at a person.  There is a difference between enjoying someone's silly quirks and being hateful to them.

What is going too far?  Is when the intent is to hurt and to harm.

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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 7:23:20 AM   
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Pissing into the wind, luci, pissing into the wind.

Always is. I don't care who says what. If I find it offensive, I'll get over it and so will anyone else. It's just always sickening how obvious the hypocrisy is. There are those who explode at the slightest hint of prejudice or bigotry unless it's directed toward "po white trash" and then it's not only totally acceptable and hilarious but expected. It never fails and no one ever has a problem with it. It's like crickets are chirpin' when it's mentioned every single time. That's all I was sayin'. And damned if they didn't prove my point yet again. Domi's little tirade was sickening and if the word "nigger" or "spic" or any other hateful epithet had been substituted, it would've bunched all their panties and been reported. But, alas, it was only denigrating white "trash" and this is fine and worth laughing at. Typical bullshit, indeed...............luci

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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 7:37:35 AM   
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I think sunnymiss pretty much nailed it. And without even reading the whole thread. Bitch is a lot smarter than she looks.

< Message edited by cjan -- 1/14/2010 7:39:54 AM >


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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 7:39:12 AM   
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She did.

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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 7:49:09 AM   
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Indeed.


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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 7:49:45 AM   
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Oui.

I look at it this way. I don't care who you are, you are going to offend someone. Just a fact of humanity. As long as I can live with the flack my offending gives me, I am cool with it.


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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 7:56:15 AM   
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And of course you look so good in those 50's dresses!


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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 8:03:42 AM   
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Get a room, you two.

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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 8:06:02 AM   
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As long as I can live with the flack my offending gives me, I am cool with it.



I forgot to say: yep to that. It's funny how the offenders were offended that the people they offended told them how offended they made them, and now they're all offended and draped in their offended dignity because they were deliberately offensive in the first place.

You can't make that shit up, you really can't  .

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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 8:07:09 AM   
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Get a room, you two.



Slowly but surely...... I am wearing her down!


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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 8:09:00 AM   
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You're so cute, Jeffffwey :-) .

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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 8:24:19 AM   
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As a piece of po white trash I dont feel offended by jokes about the likes of moi. I am not a red neck or a product of incest but I grew up pretty freaking poor. I dont really think I am trash but I get how easy it can be to make fun of a kid in her older brothers old winter coat, for example.

My parents didnt raise me to be prejudice and my Dutch grandfather helped hide and feed Jewish folks during the war of which I am really proud of him.

I think making fun of things is funny. When it is done to boost the jokester with no regard to the one being poked at, it can flare a red light on the joker but hey, we all have our inner damage to deal with no matter our skin color, heritage or financial bracket.

I have made jokes I thought were hilarious, only to find I offended the other. Sometimes I was really surprised to see that I have hurt another with my jokeyness. I live and learn, sometimes the hard way by falling flat on my face.

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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 8:28:51 AM   
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I think its fine to joke, but when you know you've made your audience uncomfortable and you continue, its a really bad reflection on character.

I also wanted to comment to sunny who said she laughs at jokes that offend other people. Thats fine, but I know you. And you have never made a joke yourself that is offensive to people, that I know of. I think you are more sensitive to other people. You may laugh at something off color, but I dont think you deliberately try to hurt people.

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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 8:50:56 AM   
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Lushy, you are sooooo attached to your JAP persona, it makes me wanna hip-bump you right inna oven.

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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 8:57:16 AM   
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Lushy, you are sooooo attached to your JAP persona, it makes me wanna hip-bump you right inna oven.


That was funny. But Domi still does it betta.

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RE: Too Far? - 1/14/2010 9:00:33 AM   
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That's okay. I'll take CJay  :-) .

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