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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/17/2010 5:59:03 PM   
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PHILADELPHIA -- Donovan McNabb has been to three straight Pro Bowls and two consecutive NFC championship games, and was runner-up for NFL MVP in his first full season as a starter.

Still, commentator Rush Limbaugh saw fit to question the quarterback's credentials.

Before McNabb led the Philadelphia Eagles to a 23-13 victory over the Buffalo Bills, Limbaugh said on ESPN's "Sunday NFL Countdown" that McNabb is overrated. However, Limbaugh injected his comment with racial overtones that have set off a controversy.

"Sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go," Limbaugh said. "I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."

ESPN released an official statement Wednesday night.

"Although Mr. Limbaugh today stated that his comments had 'no racist intent whatsoever,' we have communicated to Mr. Limbaugh that his comments were insensitive and inappropriate. Throughout his career, he has been consistent in his criticism of the media's coverage of a myriad of issues," the statement read.


That is just one of his famous lines, there are others.

Here are the top ten list from Snopes.comLimbaugh Top Ten


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# "Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela — who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing."

Media Matters for America documents this statement (with an audio clip) as one made by Rush Limbaugh in the course of his radio program on 21 August 2007.


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# "Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."

Media Matters also documents this statement as one made by Rush Limbaugh in the course of his radio program on 19 January 2007.


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# "Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"

# "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."

Rush Limbaugh acknowledged making these statements in a 1990 Newsday article (although the latter, at least, occurred not on Limbaugh's now-familiar talk and political commentary radio program, but at the beginning of his broadcast career back in the early 1970s when he was hosting a Top 40 music show under the name "Jeff Christie" on either WIXZ or KQV in Pittsburgh):
For all his bravado, however, Limbaugh is immensely sensitive to charges of insensitivity. When asked about the racist they-all-look-alike connotation of a statement like "Have you ever noticed how all newspaper composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?" this professional talker from a family of lawyers pleads total innocence.

"You may interpret it as that, but I, no, honest-to-God, that's not how I intended it at all. Gee, don't get me in this one. I am the least racist host you'll ever find." Recalling a stint as an "insult-radio" DJ in Pittsburgh, he admits feeling guilty about, for example, telling a black listener he could not understand to "take that bone out of your nose and call me back."


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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/17/2010 6:11:30 PM   
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I don't know why you would post that. Are you trying to be deceitful? Because a little further down your own Snopes link says thats a lie which can't be verified, and that Mr. Limbaugh denies having ever said it.

Are you aware that Mr. Limbaugh's co-host (in a way), Bo Snerdley, is a black man? And that Rush frequently has a black professor fill in for him in his absence?


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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/17/2010 6:15:51 PM   
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So you've edited your ridiculous post now, deleted what you posted and added some other things that either cannot be verified or are obviously not racist, or quotes that were taken out of context.

Have you no shame at all?


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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/17/2010 6:33:41 PM   
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I am late to this discussion and will be brief.

Sanity if you were President today...what would you do different than Obama. As a political neutral I can see nothing I would say or do different.

Love to hear your perspective.

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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/17/2010 6:51:02 PM   
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One thing that springs to mind right away is cut waste. President Obama claims that he has identified half a billion dollars worth of waste in Medicare alone, but I've never seen or heard how he is aggressively cutting that waste out. To me the economy and the free market are the engine and wheels, the vehicle that can move us towards prosperity and the key to our being able to do everything from afford health care to expanding our energy portfolio. But excessive government is a huge drag on that engine, on that whole vehicle.

Barack Obama on the other hand doesn't seem to think that there is any problem that more government cannot solve. To me the more government we are burdened with, the less freedom we have, and I believe we're presently way out of balance already in the favor of big unaffordable government.

For that reason I really admire TheHereitic's intestinal fortitude which he showed in initiating his thread on public servants becoming our masters, and all his work to follow up his original premise in that thread. His proposals in that thread may or may not be part of the answer but its worth considering in my opinion.

How's that or a start?

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I am late to this discussion and will be brief.

Sanity if you were President today...what would you do different than Obama. As a political neutral I can see nothing I would say or do different.

Love to hear your perspective.

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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/17/2010 8:27:27 PM   
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Actually, I was mistaken - that was 500 billion dollars of waste thats supposedly just sitting there today that president Obama has yet to act upon, and not half a billion as I posted previously.

Were it up to me there would be no more extravagant junkets on the part of Congress half way round the world, no more trips to Hawaii, absolutely no further wasteful expenditures would be tolerated. Zero. The present deficits are unsustainable and the value of the dollar is plummeting, which hurts every American.


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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/17/2010 9:07:30 PM   
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So you've edited your ridiculous post now, deleted what you posted and added some other things that either cannot be verified or are obviously not racist, or quotes that were taken out of context.

Have you no shame at all?


Actually, I included the verification sources with the quote. The quotes that were unverified were left out, and the entire quote was used. Regardless of how you feel, the quotes are questionable and provide background for his other statements, Rush makes a habit of saying something that is outright racist, or questionable in nature and his history proves the point.

It doesnt matter that he has an African American working on his show or fill in for him, they should call him on his shit.



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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/17/2010 9:12:14 PM   
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Actually, I was mistaken - that was 500 billion dollars of waste thats supposedly just sitting there today that president Obama has yet to act upon, and not half a billion as I posted previously.

Were it up to me there would be no more extravagant junkets on the part of Congress half way round the world, no more trips to Hawaii, absolutely no further wasteful expenditures would be tolerated. Zero. The present deficits are unsustainable and the value of the dollar is plummeting, which hurts every American.



Sanity I meant what would you do and say different about Haiti

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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/17/2010 10:39:37 PM   
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So, if you're a Republican and you use the word "Negro" you're racist.
But, if you're a Democrat and you use the word "Negro" you're not racist.
Am I close?

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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/17/2010 11:22:18 PM   
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Personally, Popeye, I consider the term archaic at best. While it is true the census bureau has the term on the census forms, I would have thought that it would be out of use by now.

However, I said I considered Reid's words out of place and definitely in poor taste. He apologized which is all anyone can do. Rush has made no attempt to apologize for his comments.

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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 5:54:45 AM   
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If the one statement that you think Snopes has found that may actually be called "racist" by serious people happened... then Rush should not apologize. Why? Because when you call into an "insult radio" radio program you should expect to be insulted. Duh! Its a lot like D/s, its consensual humiliation and there should be no need for Rush to apologize, though according your own source claims that he admitted feeling guilt over it.

So like you said with Harry Reid, you have to forgive him because he's sorry, and thats the best anyone can do.

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Claim: Snopes.com Is Unfairly Attacking Rush Limbaugh Status: True

Snopes: Certainly the most notorious racial remark attributed to Limbaugh is his telling a black caller on his radio talk show to "Take that bone out of your nose and call me again"
The entire basis for this story is an article titled Mouth At Work I'll tell you everything you need to know,' says Rush Limbaugh. `You need never read a newspaper again. I'll read them for you and tell you what to think.' by Richard Gehr in the October 8, 1990 issue of Newsday. No other documentation is offered by Snopes to corroborate this charge against Rush Limbaugh. Indeed, Snopes itself admits that "Nearly all the information available on this subject is anecdotal". With only one newspaper article with a long-winded title to support this claim it's not a very strong case, but let's take a look at it anyway.

Snopes: (This incident occurred not on Rush Limbaugh's now-familiar talk and political commentary radio program, but at the beginning
of his broadcast career back in the early 1970s when he was hosting a Top 40 music show under the name "Jeff Christie" on either WIXZ or KQV in Pittsburgh.)
Already Snopes is admitting in a way that "Rush Limbaugh" didn't say this, but rather Rush Limbaugh, playing the role of "Jeff Christie" on the radio back in the 70's, said this. Radio, like the movies, is show business, right? So why are radio DJ's held to a different standard than movie actors and actresses? If Sean Penn were to say something equally outrageous while playing a character in a movie, should we then attribute all those lines to "Sean Penn"? But the most damning evidence against Snopes is contained in the Newsday article itself.

Newsday: Recalling a stint as an "insult-radio" DJ in Pittsburgh, he admits feeling guilty about, for example, telling a black listener he could not understand to "take that bone out of your nose and call me back."
Why did Snopes neglect to mention the "insult-radio" format? This is NOT a trivial omission. And do we still have to explain that the insult routine, whether on stage or on the radio, is all schtick, that it's an act? Or are we all still upset by all those mean things Don Rickles said to Johnny Carson on his show years ago?

Snopes: Since Rush Limbaugh presumably wouldn't have expressed feelings of guilt over an apocryphal story, and as far as we know he hasn't ever denied or disclaimed what Newsday reported he told them, we have to put this one in the "true" column.
Not exactly a high standard, is it? So I guess now all it takes for a story to be "True" on Snopes is for it to be published somewhere, and never denied personally by the accused. Like, say, the Juanita Broaddrick story, for example. I'll let you know when they post it on Snopes. 


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Personally, Popeye, I consider the term archaic at best. While it is true the census bureau has the term on the census forms, I would have thought that it would be out of use by now.

However, I said I considered Reid's words out of place and definitely in poor taste. He apologized which is all anyone can do. Rush has made no attempt to apologize for his comments.

http://www.tommcmahon.net/2003/12/claim_snopescom.html


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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 6:09:04 AM   
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Wow. And there was me thinking that you hated America if you dissed the Chimp when he was President, whereas all along it was Rush Limbaugh everybody has to respect unless they're a communist or something...

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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 7:16:55 AM   
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Barack Obama took his entire family to an overtly racist church where they worshipped under the "Black Theology" or anti-white doctrine of the Reverend Jeremiah Wright for over twenty years, but that's alright. He's yet to apologize, but still, not a big deal. Yes, Barack Obama is a racist, but he's the Democrat's racist, so he gets a pass.

Bill Clinton was in the news just recently for saying about Barack Obama, "...a few years ago this guy would have been bringing us coffee".

Yep, same deal. Bill Clinton's a racist, but he's the Democrat's racist, so he gets a pass. Harry Reid, Robert Byrd (former? KKK), even Joe Biden has said some colorful things, all Democrats so nary a peep.

But Rush Limbaugh - oh my! It's rumored (but not verified) that years and years ago while playing a part on a radio show as a shock jock he used a racial insult, and though he's said he's sorry he must never be forgiven because he's a (gasp!) Conservative.

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Time to cut to the chase. These accusations of racism against Rush Limbaugh come from weak minded people who obviously cannot think for themselves. This is about slandering and smearing anyone guilty of dissent. Liberal ideas and philosophies are too weak to stand up to question and so Liberals habitually attack the character of anyone who dares to question them, and to Liberals race is something to be used to achieve their political ends, nothing more.

And that makes the Liberals who stoop to this disgusting level the true racists.

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Wow. And there was me thinking that you hated America if you dissed the Chimp when he was President, whereas all along it was Rush Limbaugh everybody has to respect unless they're a communist or something...


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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 7:52:19 AM   
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So, if you're a Republican you're racist and you hate poor people and want them to suffer.
But, if you're a Democrat  you're not racist and pretty much anything you do is ok.
Am I close?


Actually according to some this is closer to the truth.


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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 7:54:29 AM   
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Actually, cutting to the chase would mean, you defend Rush and fall right into his ploys to play the media that keeps his ratings high and revolving around the explosive material he has to offer.  Guess you could say you're his puppy, as much as you think liberals (or whatever you call them) are the Democratic (or Barak Obama's puppy).  The gate always swings both ways. 

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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 9:32:28 AM   
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Actually, cutting to the chase would mean, you defend Rush and fall right into his ploys to play the media that keeps his ratings high and revolving around the explosive material he has to offer.  Guess you could say you're his puppy, as much as you think liberals (or whatever you call them) are the Democratic (or Barak Obama's puppy).  The gate always swings both ways. 


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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 9:42:09 AM   
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About Haiti? I kind of like what Canada's doing, matching contributions from its citizens up to $50,000,000.00

I'm not sure I agree with Obama's knee-jerk reaction to throw $100,000,000.00 (minimum) at the problem. Why is there a United Nations? What do we pay them for. And how much foreign aid do we give to Haiti every year already, and why hasn't it done any good?

It seems like every nation should step up and share the load to me, equally. And the fact is right now we're broke. Why is it up to the USA to be the worlds cop? I think we should help out but targeted where its needed most in a concerted effort with the international community.


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Sanity I meant what would you do and say different about Haiti

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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 9:46:13 AM   
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Among the important things the U.S. did immediately was secure the airport.

We're close and capable. We're where the refugees will flee. It's a rational move.

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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 9:48:16 AM   
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It's interesting how people like you claim the USA are the world's cop when it comes to invading other countries, and reject that title when it comes to humanitarian assistance in the case of the largest humanitarian disaster in recent history. You want it both ways? Then you truly live in cloud cuckoo land. If you truly want to live in autarcic paradise, you ought to move to an isolated island in the middle of nowhere.



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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 9:50:07 AM   
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Plus, Haitians speak French.


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