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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 9:50:31 AM   
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I think that kind of thing is appropriate, its what we do best. But why should we feel obligated to shoulder more of a load here than anyone else? Do you know that Hugo Chavez is accusing us of occupying Haiti now?

We can't win, and so we should do what we can afford to do and do it for the right reasons, for the humanitarian needs there, and not for grandstanding.


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Among the important things the U.S. did immediately was secure the airport.

We're close and capable. We're where the refugees will flee. It's a rational move.


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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 9:51:38 AM   
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Ahh, I see.  So, the reason Bush ignored the people down in NOLA when Katrina hit...and refused help from other countries was to avoid politcal gain.  I'm gonna have to remember that. But ya know what, Sanity.  If its political gain Obama wants, I say let him have it.  Think of the gain those Haitians are getting in the interim.  Or do you think humanity isn't for Haitians? Obviously, according to your logic, Bush musta thought that the people in New Orleans weren't entitled to it? 




From someone who was there during Katrina, don't believe everything you see on the TV or read in the newspapers.  People were being airlifted from their roofs immediately.  Winds were still high and it was still pouring rain.  Those rescue workers risked their lives in unsafe conditions to evacuate people ASAP.  I'm not sure why it wasn't widely reported, but emergency services and relief personnel were there immediately after the hurricane.  They had to retreat and wait for armed escorts because people were shooting at them ...not just one or two people shooting in isolated pockets, but widespread.  A large portion of the NOPD walked off the force after Katrina and were made to look like cowards.  Personally, I don't blame them.  Why should one have to dodge bullets to help people who obviously don't want to be helped.

Shortly after, I read in the Times Picayune (local paper) that the Superdome will never, ever be open again in the face of a natural disaster.  It was utterly trashed:  plumbing ripped out, everything that was not nailed down stolen, if it was nailed down, it was broken.  I can't even count the number of hotels in Baton Rouge that had to shut down and renovate/remodel due to being trashed by evacuees.

Certainly Katrina was horrible, and certainly mistakes were made on many sides.  However, I don't think it is fair to have expected any government to plan to have to rescue its own citizens from a combat zone after that disaster.  There was devastation across the Gulf South, and personnel dispatched over many miles of Louisiana and Mississippi.  If I were a rescue worker at that time, I'd have left New Orleans (where people were shooting at me and I needed a damned armed guard to do my job) and gone to help people in Biloxi (who were grateful for the assistance).


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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 9:54:00 AM   
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Hugo Chavez is accusing us of occupying Haiti now


Chavez is an idiot. Who cares what he thinks? The President of Haiti is certainly happy we're there.


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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 9:55:22 AM   
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You hate the United States for helping the tortured and mass-murdered minorities of Iraq or the South Vietnamese and Cambodians who ended up being enslaved and mass murdered by the communists, so if we say fuck it, and quit helping you cry because we don't go rushing in whenever there's another crisis somewhere.

There is no pleasing you, is there?

Cuckoo land is the space between your ears...

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It's interesting how people like you claim the USA are the world's cop when it comes to invading other countries, and reject that title when it comes to humanitarian assistance in the case of the largest humanitarian disaster in recent history. You want it both ways? Then you truly live in cloud cuckoo land. If you truly want to live in autarcic paradise, you ought to move to an isolated island in the middle of nowhere.




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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:00:42 AM   
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Ignoring the fact that every country is going thru a recession and  are in just the same state... the fact that
Canada is donating 1.61 per person
USA is donating 33 cents a person
still hasnt sunk in has it, this is NOT a competition. its about getting money to a country that needs as much help as it can.
for gods sake get your head out of rush's ass
you are becoming more evil nasty vile malicious and pathetic as days go past
I thought you were better than that, but then Ive been wrong once before.
Ugly soul you have there.




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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:06:39 AM   
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Lucy, I think exactly the same of you. Whatever happened to your Conservative Free America avatar, anyway. You and panda would make a great team shoving all us millions of awful ugly-souled Conservatives into the ovens wouldn't you...

So whats it smell like with your head up Keith Obermanns ass lucy?

I can't imagine why my elbows have sharpened though. Can you, you sweet lovable innocent little troll you...

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Sanity
Ignoring the fact that every country is going thru a recession and  are in just the same state... the fact that
Canada is donating 1.61 per person
USA is donating 33 cents a person
still hasnt sunk in has it, this is NOT a competition. its about getting money to a country that needs as much help as it can.
for gods sake get your head out of rush's ass
you are becoming more evil nasty vile malicious and pathetic as days go past
I thought you were better than that, but then Ive been wrong once before.
Ugly soul you have there.





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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:11:03 AM   
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As far as your claims to what Canada is giving why not prove it. Whats your source, because I seriously doubt that. And while fighting two wars the United States is giving more muscle than Canada could ever dream about.

But who's counting, its a team effort after all. Right? Its not about politics or grandstanding. No wait - hold that. Its about bashing those awful Conservatives isn't it.

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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:11:21 AM   
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its called simple maths
Canada = 30 million people pay 1.61 per person for a total of 50 million pledged which is your number
USA =300 million pay 33 cents per person at 100 million pledged
its basic math



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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:13:37 AM   
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You have a point, I could never match your sheer trollish ugliness, could I.

I would be better off staying on the higher road, but sometimes the temptation is just too strong...




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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:18:29 AM   
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You're not worth it except to say, I'm not a dog, you're a dog - so bark for me.


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Actually, cutting to the chase would mean, you defend Rush and fall right into his ploys to play the media that keeps his ratings high and revolving around the explosive material he has to offer.  Guess you could say you're his puppy, as much as you think liberals (or whatever you call them) are the Democratic (or Barak Obama's puppy).  The gate always swings both ways. 



Ohhhhh yea.  You can match the ugliness alright.  (And I see your tail waggin' too!! LOL)

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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:23:13 AM   
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Call me a puppy, I'll call you a dog. Why should I just take it? Who the hell are you to be dissing me like that and not expect to get any of it back. You want civility, then be civil. Its the golden rule baby. Didn't you learn anything in kindergarten?


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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:25:14 AM   
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You hate the United States for helping the tortured and mass-murdered minorities of Iraq or the South Vietnamese and Cambodians who ended up being enslaved and mass murdered by the communists, so if we say fuck it, and quit helping you cry because we don't go rushing in whenever there's another crisis somewhere.



Fuck you. I'm sick and tired of hearing that one hates the United States because they disagree with your beloved neo-con policy of useless and illegal invasion - Bush and Cheney may have pulled that crap off in their hayday, but that moment has passed.

Get with the fucking program, will you?


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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:27:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow!!!!  I must have hit a nerve.  First, you have to learn to take what you dish out (and relax, the dish comment was not meant to be your dog dish!!, geezzzzz).  My puppy comment was nothing more or worse than some of the names you call people who disagree with you.  If its that easy to hurt your feelings, I guess I'm gonna have to quit playing.  I, like you, have a serious need to return sarcasm when its being smeared all over the place.

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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:29:46 AM   
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Ah, yeah. Republicans liberate a hundred million people and its a war crime. Liberals throw money at a problem and end up making things worse and they're heroes.

In your FREAKING IMAGINATION.

History will be very kind to the "NeoCons" who you've spewed your vile hate at for all these years. But Obama? He's already going down in flames.

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Fuck you. I'm sick and tired of hearing that one hates the United States because they disagree with your beloved neo-con policy of useless and illegal invasion - Bush and Cheney may have pulled that crap off in their hayday, but that moment has passed.

Get with the fucking program, will you?



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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:31:36 AM   
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Whatever Louve. Take your toys and go home, because I'm not taking that puppy shit off of you.


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Wow!!!!  I must have hit a nerve.  First, you have to learn to take what you dish out (and relax, the dish comment was not meant to be your dog dish!!, geezzzzz).  My puppy comment was nothing more or worse than some of the names you call people who disagree with you.  If its that easy to hurt your feelings, I guess I'm gonna have to quit playing.  I, like you, have a serious need to return sarcasm when its being smeared all over the place.


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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:32:35 AM   
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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:34:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sanity, to answer your question about why I think the quote below is racist.

"Sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go," Limbaugh said. "I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."

He is clearly saying McNabb gets the attention that he does because he is a black man. In my book, thats racist. Add to this the comment to the woman about a bone in her nose. Add to this the claim he was merely mimicking Reid about Obama. Each one has racist overtones, thats too much of a coincidence. I am unsure why you drag Clinton in, the fact he has also made racist comments doesnt make Limbaugh look any better.

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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:35:51 AM   
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vile hate


Get help!


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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:35:53 AM   
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So, if you're a Republican and you use the word "Negro" you're racist.
But, if you're a Democrat and you use the word "Negro" you're not racist.
Am I close?


Close ? Your not even on the same continent. It isnt about who says what word, it`s all about context and intent.

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RE: Rush Drawing fire for his haitian comments - 1/18/2010 10:36:59 AM   
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I'm in a good mood luce, this kind of feels good being able to hit back like this. Maybe when you guys figure out that the conservatives can defend themselves now things will settle down and we can have some good honest debates. At least I'm hoping so. There will always be a few trolls such as yourself but eventually you'll be ignored and we can all move on.


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LOL Louve I think you definitely hit a bone.... what a treat, 


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