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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: mcbride

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Well if we're so fucking hated then fuck them.
Canada's pledging less than half of what Obama's giving away. Are the Canadians predominantly racists for being so stingy, or are we just stupid for throwing twice the money they are into a bottomless shit hole.

Canada, with 31 million people, is matching the donations of it's citizens, to a maximum of $50 million, in total. Obama is pledging 100 million. Per person, not even counting private donations, Canada is giving five times as much.

Trouble with math, sweetheart?

Well, if you count all the private donations from U.S. citizens, groups and organisations I bet it'll be a billion or more!
I'm on a pension and I donated $100.
You could rebuild that whole country very nicely for $3 or $400 million.

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ORIGINAL: SeekingAZ

No she isn't going to run out of checks. She's talking about other's people money. Doesn't cost anything to write those.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

You've never met a more responsible father than I am, but the whole world isn't of my seed. Are you on a mission to be the whole worlds mommy? Or nanny?

Eventually you're going to run out of checks.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Is that how you manage your personal life? Do you write bad checks that you will never be able to cover in order to try to make the imperfect world thats all around you into a perfect place?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I dont put a dollar amount on things... money doesnt mean shit in the face of death and destruction. you sort out the mess later... right now... you merely offer help in putting these people back on their feet. Show me one President that has denied aid when disaster hit.

Do you let your children die to ensure your checkbook balances?

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ORIGINAL: Louve00

Well.  I heard yesterday that Obama asked Clinton and Bush 43 to help with the aid to Haiti.  (Just like Bush 43 asked Clinton and Bush 41 to help in Sri Lanka when the tsunami hit).  Should be confusing for Sanity, with the forces of 'evil' and 'good' actually working together over something he's so obviously against.

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ORIGINAL: mcbride

Canada, with 31 million, is matching the donations of it's citizens, to a maximum of $50 million, in total. Obama is pledging 100 million. Per person, not even counting private donations, Canada is giving five times as much.

Trouble with math, sweetheart?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Actually, children, i dont write bad checks. I manage my money well. Hell, i dont even write checks.. lol. Gotta love the sock puppet attacks.

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If you don't worry about money as you claim you're not a responsible adult, which would make you the one among us who is child-like. Even in the most dire situations responsible people have to deal with reality, and if you don't have something then you just don't have it.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Private donations are one thing, having the IRS take "donations" from our great grand kids with the threat of force, taking "donations" from generations who have yet to be born, is another.

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ORIGINAL: Louve00

Well.  I heard yesterday that Obama asked Clinton and Bush 43 to help with the aid to Haiti.  (Just like Bush 43 asked Clinton and Bush 41 to help in Sri Lanka when the tsunami hit).  Should be confusing for Sanity, with the forces of 'evil' and 'good' actually working together over something he's so obviously against.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


If you don't worry about money as you claim you're not a responsible adult, which would make you the one among us who is child-like. Even in the most dire situations responsible people have to deal with reality, and if you don't have something then you just don't have it.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Actually, children, i dont write bad checks. I manage my money well. Hell, i dont even write checks.. lol. Gotta love the sock puppet attacks.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Threats? what threats???

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Private donations are one thing, having the IRS take "donations" from our great grand kids with the threat of force, taking "donations" from generations who have yet to be born, is another.

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ORIGINAL: Louve00

Well.  I heard yesterday that Obama asked Clinton and Bush 43 to help with the aid to Haiti.  (Just like Bush 43 asked Clinton and Bush 41 to help in Sri Lanka when the tsunami hit).  Should be confusing for Sanity, with the forces of 'evil' and 'good' actually working together over something he's so obviously against.

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am extremely responsible. My son is 23, and just as responsible. I raised my child, i pay my bills, and i dont live on line all day. I also dont live beyond my personal means, allowing me to help out those who need help instead of stressing over a credit card bill to buy that bigger TV set, or the car loan to buy that newer car.

THATS responsibility.

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FACTBOX-U.S. military mobilizes thousands for Haiti relief


Jan 14 (Reuters) - The U.S. military is mobilizing thousands of soldiers, sailors and Marines along with members of the Air Force and Coast Guard for relief efforts in Haiti. Here are the main military components announced so far: WHO'S THERE ALREADY?

* The vast majority of the forces announced for Haiti have not yet arrived, but the military has flown in hundreds of rescuers and has advance teams and assessment teams on the ground. Air Force special forces were among the first military relief workers to arrive. The Coast Guard has deployed four ships as well as air support for evacuation efforts. The Navy destroyer USS Higgins, with about 320 sailors on board, arrived on Thursday. MORE THAN 5,000 MARINES, SOLDIERS

* Up to 3,500 soldiers from the U.S. Army's 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg will be deployed in Haiti by Sunday. An advance group of about 125 troops were due to arrive on Thursday and 800 more will arrive on Friday.

* Another 2,200 Marines from the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit at Camp Lejeune, N.C., may arrive this weekend or on Monday for what initially is expected to be about a 90-day deployment. AMPHIBIOUS GROUP, FLOATING HOSPITAL

* An amphibious readiness group with three ships -- the USS Bataan, the USS Fort McHenry and USS Carter Hall -- will take the Marines to Haiti. This group can produce its own purified water.

* A U.S. Navy aircraft carrier, the USS Carl Vinson, with a crew of between 4,000-5,000 sailors on board, is on the way and will arrive in the area by Friday, with 19 helicopters on board. It has three operating rooms, several dozen hospital beds and can produce fresh water.

* The much-anticipated hospital ship, the USNS Comfort, will not arrive until around Jan. 22. It has 12 operating rooms and 250 hospital beds. The Pentagon says the Comfort is a slow-moving vessel and will need a week to arrive in Haiti.

* Two additional ships, the USS Underwood and the USS Normandy, with 400 and 250 personnel, are expected to arrive on Jan 16.

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
I didn't see anything to suggest tazzy is living off other people's money.  How did you get that out of this exchange?

I also fail to see Sanity's comparison of a natural disaster relief effort to a war.  Wouldn't a better comparison be to the relief effort after another major earthquake that caused the tsunami.  Fortunately that disaster happened during the Bush administration so no one was worried about taking money away from our children then.
http://www.unicef.org/eapro/Tsunami_Q_and_A.pdf

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GWYE_enUS268US286&q=who+donated+to+tsunami+relief

The Bush administration spend a lot of our children's and grandchildren's money.  I don't recall the kind of media freakshow we have now.  I guess you're right about others people's money but the attack should be us as a country, not tazzygirl as an individual.  We're like how far in debt?  Aren't we really spending China's money?

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And the left bitched to the heavens loud and long about every dime that was spent helping the people of Iraq, and they've now convinced me that everyone in the world hates the United States and that China is the greatest thing since the invention of the windmill, so I say let China and Denmark save Haiti.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
Here is the thing, Rush Limbaugh is telling people who HAVE the money NOT to give it. I suppose those people that are not giving the money to Haitians because the USA already gave could make an arrangement with the IRS to pay for what the USA gave since the argument is that we do not want to go into debt.

After all of this you still support Limbaugh telling people WHO ARE IN THE BLACK not to give money. You still think this is a GOOD thing to say.

You do not see me cheerleading for ANYONE like that.

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ORIGINAL: Louve00

Well.  I heard yesterday that Obama asked Clinton and Bush 43 to help with the aid to Haiti.  (Just like Bush 43 asked Clinton and Bush 41 to help in Sri Lanka when the tsunami hit).  Should be confusing for Sanity, with the forces of 'evil' and 'good' actually working together over something he's so obviously against.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Private donations are one thing, having the IRS take "donations" from our great grand kids with the threat of force, taking "donations" from generations who have yet to be born, is another.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


The IRS doesn't play "nice".

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Threats? what threats???

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On this Haiti donation thing, its fairly complicated, but one of the issues is forced donations and I think thats what Rush may be referring to. Barack Obama has already donated for you, for me, for my kids, for my kids' kids, and their kids, for generations to come, and I believe that may have been what Rush Limbaugh was alluding to.

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And the left bitched to the heavens loud and long about every dime that was spent helping the people of Iraq, and they've now convinced me that everyone in the world hates the United States and that China is the greatest thing since the invention of the windmill, so I say let China and Denmark save Haiti.

You do see the difference between Shock and Awe bombing the shit out of people and then going in to "save them" and using one of the few existing institutions that can be mobilized to distribute aid... which the US military is the only institution we have that can do this because that is where we sunk all our fucking tax money!

Here you are bitching about the debt when our military is our biggest expense, and the second we want to do something with them that isn't destructive you get all bent out of shape about that too... you are a real piece of work