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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/17/2010 8:02:25 AM   
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It is an absolute fact that men are abusive. Men dominate the entire world. Did it ever occur to anybody that war and slavery are mens devices that are used to keep women supressed?
If men actually wanted women to excell and thrive they would educate them and pay them equally but they don't. Men dump bastard children on women all the time. Impoverished and uneducated women is the definition of slavery. Slavery is a world wide epidemic and men are the disease.





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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/17/2010 8:04:02 AM   
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Aylee are you replying to me or the other bitchy redhead?


Like there is any difference between individual redheads...


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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/17/2010 10:41:30 AM   
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WTF? What men are like that? I would NEVER be with anyone who treated me like that, and i intentoinally look for someone who will beat me and call me his bitch. What am I missing?



You're missing the fact that you being called names and being beaten is something you relish and sought.

To be honest , if it was THAT abusive, I doubt they'd be having their slanging match in front of some carer. No-one knows what goes on behind closed doors...she might be having dialysis, but she still might be the bitch from hell. Being sick doesn't make someone less horrible.

Why not ask your supervisor what she meant?

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/17/2010 10:50:42 AM   
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Aylee are you replying to me or the other bitchy redhead?


Like there is any difference between individual redheads...




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Well, that last line is not that accurate if you are a sub.

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/17/2010 12:55:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: belladevine

It is an absolute fact that men are abusive. Men dominate the entire world. Did it ever occur to anybody that war and slavery are mens devices that are used to keep women supressed?
If men actually wanted women to excell and thrive they would educate them and pay them equally but they don't. Men dump bastard children on women all the time. Impoverished and uneducated women is the definition of slavery. Slavery is a world wide epidemic and men are the disease.







I think it is super funny that I am the one being called a troll . I've been a member on this site for quite a long tiime.
Most of the men that write to me are married and are cheating on their wife or significant other. In my opinion lying, cheating and abusive men are everywhere but they are not dominant ...they are low life, lying cheaters.
I am sorry if the people and the moderators on this site don't like my opinion of men but..it is my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Murder is the #1 cause of death among pregnangt women in America. Remember that next time HE tells you how much he cares about you.

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/17/2010 1:26:32 PM   
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OH boy.  A lot of sparks are flying here.  The problem:  entrenchment in one's own opinions, not willing to listen to one another.  There is truth on both sides.

Patriarchial culture teaches men to use abuse to control and to gain power.  Unfortunately, many learn their lessons well and use it to hurt women.  There are indeed places where women have no choices but to stay with abusive men.

There are also places where women are fully educated, etc, and choose - for whatever reason(s) - to stay with abusive men.

The recession has made it easier for women to move forward, and maintain employment, or secure employment.  This is because manufacturing jobs - which used to pay well and have been the traditional auspices of men - have gone overseas.  So this has changed the power balance between men and women.

Also:  women had to step into the workplace out of economic necessity.  That did not mean there was the same necessity at home.  So, many men have not stepped up to the plate.  Leaving a lot of women angry and doing a "second shift" at home.

I personally find it frustrating when the level of respect deteriorates on these boards.  That should not be happening and is also a form of abuse.  Verbal abuse.

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/17/2010 1:35:27 PM   
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Of course men get abused. Who ever said they didn't? Dominant men do not discriminate, they are power mongers.
In the world of BDSM it is usually the objective to "push the limits". More power is more power and men will always strive for more power. Abuse of power is not isolated to Africa or any other country, it is rampant right here in America.
Knowledge is power and inferior men get taken advantage of. Education is the only real cure for an abusive situation but the power mongers in this country are too busy spending the education money to throw wars.



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Either she's stashing something in her pants or your theory is flawed.

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/17/2010 1:40:57 PM   
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Murder is the #1 cause of death among pregnangt women in America. Remember that next time HE tells you how much he cares about you.


Pregnant women in the US are about eight times as likely to die of medical causes (such as bleeding during childbirth) than they are of homicide. Car accidents come second, and homicide comes third.

http://barrydeutsch.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/homicide-is-not-the-leading-cause-of-death-among-pregnant-women/

Even most sites that make a big deal of the homicide rate say "Outside of medical complications of pregnancy, homicide is the number one cause of death of pregnant women."

Which really makes sense, considering pregnancy happens in a healthy age group and only lasts for 9 months.

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/17/2010 1:51:37 PM   
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I am really getting a kick out of all you people that want to analyze and attack me




Funny you mention that ... it's dangerous around here to gain say those with high post counts ... and there's several threads where you can visit the "bleating sheep" on this issue ... I notice you have only 9 Posts as I snip this quote ... I wonder if the two are related, I think we shoud be told.

bring it ! (you know who you are)

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/17/2010 3:12:34 PM   
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You can repeat an opinion until you're blue in the face but it still doesn't make it a fact. There is a difference.

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/17/2010 8:07:43 PM   
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I am really getting a kick out of all you people that want to analyze and attack me




Funny you mention that ... it's dangerous around here to gain say those with high post counts ... and there's several threads where you can visit the "bleating sheep" on this issue ... I notice you have only 9 Posts as I snip this quote ... I wonder if the two are related, I think we shoud be told.

bring it ! (you know who you are)

Pirate



Post count has nothing to do it.  I dislike it when I see someone demonize 50% of the population as abusive and the rest as nothing more than victims.  I see nothing redeeming in the adjective abuser or victim.  Misanthropy is one thing.  Being an asshole is something else altogeather. 

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/18/2010 3:55:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JonnieBoy

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I am really getting a kick out of all you people that want to analyze and attack me




Funny you mention that ... it's dangerous around here to gain say those with high post counts ... and there's several threads where you can visit the "bleating sheep" on this issue ... I notice you have only 9 Posts as I snip this quote ... I wonder if the two are related, I think we shoud be told.

bring it ! (you know who you are)

Pirate



Post count has nothing to do it.  I dislike it when I see someone demonize 50% of the population as abusive and the rest as nothing more than victims.  I see nothing redeeming in the adjective abuser or victim.  Misanthropy is one thing.  Being an asshole is something else altogeather. 


Well said, Aylee; bella deserves the Blanket Statement of the Year award, possibly.

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/18/2010 4:12:27 AM   
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The men should have trained you better...don't you know that foul mouthed women should be seen and not heard.
well dayyyyy-um i am ALL confused now. If us subblie wimmins iz seen and not heard, how would anyone knowz we iz foul mouthed?

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/18/2010 4:13:59 AM   
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Aylee are you replying to me or the other bitchy redhead?


Like there is any difference between individual redheads...

Steven...there is a difference between individual BITCHY redheads.

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/18/2010 4:28:00 AM   
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If men actually wanted women to excell and thrive they would educate them and pay them equally but they don't.
Do you WANT to excel and thrive? Do you WANT an education so your salary can meet/surpass the salary of others?

Then get off your lazy ass and do it. Waiting for a man to educate you is not going to get you anywhere. He is not going to motivate you to succeed. You motivate yourself.

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Men dump bastard children on women all the time.
Oh please. The argument can be made in reverse that woman trap men into years of child support payments.
The fact is it is your body so take control of it. Whereas birth control methods are not foolproof, they are a hell of a lot better than they were. No man can "dump" an unwanted child on a woman without her consent.

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Impoverished and uneducated women is the definition of slavery. Slavery is a world wide epidemic and men are the disease.
What this tells me is you are lazy and unmotivated, waiting for the world to give you the lifestyle you want without lifting a finger to help yourself. Growing bitter because it is not happening? Blaming the male population instead of the one that is truly responsible is easy, but the fault lies with the one in the mirror.

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/18/2010 4:42:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: belladevine
It is an absolute fact that men are abusive. Men dominate the entire world. Did it ever occur to anybody that war and slavery are mens devices that are used to keep women supressed?
If men actually wanted women to excell and thrive they would educate them and pay them equally but they don't. Men dump bastard children on women all the time. Impoverished and uneducated women is the definition of slavery. Slavery is a world wide epidemic and men are the disease.

Oh this is just utter bullshit. Worldwide there is inequality lingering from older times. You can't just snap your fingers and expect the world to change cause little ol' you says it should. Change takes time. Instead of stomping your feet and calling an entire gender names you could get off your pretty butt and help.

Just the opinion of a very educated young woman whose male father was never abusive and always emphasized the importance of her being educated and not expecting the impossible.

For that record, why don't you insist that women take responsiblity for their bodies as well? Unless the woman is raped, a man doesn't "dump" a baby on her. She consents to an activity that could make a baby. If she doesn't want one, she has an equal responsibility to say no.

Quite frankly, when you put all the blame on men, it's not feminism. It's going back in time to when women were helpless, incapable of making decisions and big, strong men had to do everything for them.

quote:


I am just pointing out the facts.

If these are facts, show me the data. Show me how every man I know is actually an abusive twit. Be logical. Make your points without being insulting and calling anyone on this board names.
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The world is male dominated, women are abused all the time, get ovet it. Attacking me isn't going to change the facts.

Little boys are abused all the time. Do you not care about them cause they happen to have penises?
What about the men who are raped in prison? Do they not count to you?
Abuse happens. Stop bitching and help. Spewing posion doesn't do anyone any good.

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ORIGINAL: belladevine

Murder is the #1 cause of death among pregnangt women in America. Remember that next time HE tells you how much he cares about you.


WTF? What are you implying you want the man to carry the baby? Or that the baby is something men shove up inside women without their consent?

Funny, the women I know who have kids TRIED to get pregnant. It's not something their menfolk forced on them. They knew the risks associated and decided having a kid was worth it. Some pregnant women get murdered. Some wives get murdered. Some women cut off their husband's penis. Are we supposed to judge each other solely by crime rates and not our character's?

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HE loves to watch women wriggle in pain and see them cry. Love is a lie. You are a bio/chemical process.
Your worthless chatter about an abusive lifestyle should be taken to your pshco-therapist or a sadist.

HAHA I am A total pain slut, bring it on! I can take it and I am more than happy to dish it out.

Ahh. I get it now. You are using us without our consent for your kink. I guess you picked this up from the men you know since you seem to only associate yourself with men who are abusive.

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/18/2010 4:55:43 AM   
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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/18/2010 6:11:47 AM   
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I sure do pity sub-human females. I hope some day the men can teach them to get off their fours and learn to walk up right and be a self sufficient slave. Maybe then topics like abuse will only be found in a history book. Currenty the history of abuse is being written by men with fairy tails and the sub-human females that love them.

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/18/2010 6:15:37 AM   
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Belladevine, you just come off as a very inadequate S.A.M.  Honestly, I've known smart ass submissives who could pull off this sort of attempt at attention seeking, in a much more intriguing manner.  Although, I'm sure your crude attempts work for you, so kudos.

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RE: Do vanillas accept more abuse? - 1/18/2010 6:20:09 AM   
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her pathetic bids for attention are boring




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