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LadyEllen -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/18/2010 4:19:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

I think "financially secure" is dominatrix for "drives a Jag"...


In which case I wish my bank manager were a dominatrix

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WyldHrt -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/18/2010 4:24:15 PM)

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I didnt steal it . I selected it from the Internet. Anyway thats slightly off the point, but thanks anyway

The picture is copyrighted, Kevin. You also violated TOS when you put it up, or did you miss the part that says
No commercial photos or artwork - Only pictures you took yourself




CarrieO -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/18/2010 4:32:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

People who are unfortunate not to be working are not a drag.

Sure, as long as they're making an effort to improve themselves and their employment status.  If they're making no effort then yes, they are a drag.

What ladies need to do is lower their standards completley. They will then improve their chances of finding a sub.

You have got to be kidding me!  Let's see...living single and comfortably on my own versus lowering my standards to take on some man who is nothing more than a warm body?  Do you seriously think that makes any sense whatsoever????   Sweetie, that's why we have PETS and B.O.Bs !!!

If you were ever unfortunate to be out of work yourself , You would not consider those not employed to be a drag.
Shame on you
Kevin

No....shame on YOU!





LadyAngelika -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/18/2010 4:32:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

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I didnt steal it . I selected it from the Internet. Anyway thats slightly off the point, but thanks anyway

The picture is copyrighted, Kevin. You also violated TOS when you put it up, or did you miss the part that says
No commercial photos or artwork - Only pictures you took yourself


Many of us use pictures that are not of us to represent ourselves. Myself included.

Though I do have issues with the potential deceptive nature of the image and the lack of referencing.

In my case, there is no doubt that I am not the woman in my avatar as it is a famous piece of artwork in the BDSM world *and* I credit it in my profile. The other 3 pics on my profile are of me.

- LA

Edited because I really didn't express that thought right the first time!




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/18/2010 4:44:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

In my case, there is no doubt that I am not the woman in my avatar...


WHAT??!?!?

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LadyAngelika -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/18/2010 5:00:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

In my case, there is no doubt that I am not the woman in my avatar...


WHAT??!?!?

[sm=confused.gif][:(]



Oh Panda! Maybe we need to get together and recreate that scene and then I will be ;-)

- LA




SomethingCatchy -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/18/2010 5:32:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: EagerSlave1

Alright, I know this will be a slippery slope but I have to say this and be honest. I understand a Domme wanting a slave to be financially secure. To have a job and be able to support one's self is important but I am so tired of talking with people who want to be taken care of financially 100%. I know there are pro Dommes that do this sort of thing for a living and that is pefectly fine. I am just tired of people "claiming" to be lifestyle Dommes, then once you start talking to them it all boils down to what you do for a living. Most people work hard and support themselves but are NOT rich. I know some Dommes would like wealthy subs/slaves and trust me, I would LOVE a wealthy Domme too, but this is reality folks. What if I posted in my profile that I wanted a Domme that was a 6 figure earner? I bet I would not get many responses and the ones I got would be Dommes giving me a piece of their minds. Now I am not against spoiling my Domme with gifts, dinner, you know anything along those lines but to just totally support them, is something I doubt I'll ever be able to do. A sub/slave SHOULD spoil his Domme.

Am I wrong to feel the way I do? I may be but I am trying my hardest to be honest and forthcoming with whomever I come into contact with. I know there is a TON of BS on this site and in this lifestyle in general. I am financially secure but if I had to totally take care of someone else financially I would not be. Thank you for reading my post and I hope to hear some great thought on this.



Look guy, if you don't want to do it, then don't, and just get over it. Some people like to be fucked in the butt, but I don't, does that make me wrong? No.




KnightofMists -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/18/2010 5:35:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: EagerSlave1

Alright, I know this will be a slippery slope but I have to say this and be honest. I understand a Domme wanting a slave to be financially secure. To have a job and be able to support one's self is important but I am so tired of talking with people who want to be taken care of financially 100%. I know there are pro Dommes that do this sort of thing for a living and that is pefectly fine. I am just tired of people "claiming" to be lifestyle Dommes, then once you start talking to them it all boils down to what you do for a living. Most people work hard and support themselves but are NOT rich. I know some Dommes would like wealthy subs/slaves and trust me, I would LOVE a wealthy Domme too, but this is reality folks. What if I posted in my profile that I wanted a Domme that was a 6 figure earner? I bet I would not get many responses and the ones I got would be Dommes giving me a piece of their minds. Now I am not against spoiling my Domme with gifts, dinner, you know anything along those lines but to just totally support them, is something I doubt I'll ever be able to do. A sub/slave SHOULD spoil his Domme.

Am I wrong to feel the way I do? I may be but I am trying my hardest to be honest and forthcoming with whomever I come into contact with. I know there is a TON of BS on this site and in this lifestyle in general. I am financially secure but if I had to totally take care of someone else financially I would not be. Thank you for reading my post and I hope to hear some great thought on this.




You know.. there is a sad reality that women as a whole are financially less well off than men even if compared within the same occupation. Yes... it is getting better... but I don't think we are there yet. The result of this is that you will find more females that lack the financial security that more men enjoy. The other interest aspect to add to this problem is the young. Most young seem to end up in the care of the mothers and more than a few of the fathers are less than financially reliable to their responsibilities. Again... it's getting better... but I don't think we are there yet.




domiguy -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/18/2010 5:46:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists


You know.. there is a sad reality that women as a whole are financially less well off than men even if compared within the same occupation. Yes... it is getting better... but I don't think we are there yet. The result of this is that you will find more females that lack the financial security that more men enjoy. The other interest aspect to add to this problem is the young. Most young seem to end up in the care of the mothers and more than a few of the fathers are less than financially reliable to their responsibilities. Again... it's getting better... but I don't think we are there yet.



The answer lies in joining the Sally Struthers School of Dommes for Broke Women...An online class that in six weeks can have you off your po' ass and in some payin' ass.  Learn how to bilk these pathetic losers out of every nickle that thay have managed to scrounge up.  Remember they deserve it and you ain't got no other choice!!!

(In the high pitched whiny voice of Sally Struthers) ...Little Beverly is only twenty eight years old but hasn't eaten in over two days.  She is uneducated and without some help might not live to see another day.  By enrolling in The Sally Struthers School of Dommes For Broke Women she now can eat, buy strap ons and put a roof over her head. So please call now operators are waiting.




stella41b -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/18/2010 7:34:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: EagerSlave1

Alright, I know this will be a slippery slope but I have to say this and be honest. I understand a Domme wanting a slave to be financially secure. To have a job and be able to support one's self is important but I am so tired of talking with people who want to be taken care of financially 100%. I know there are pro Dommes that do this sort of thing for a living and that is pefectly fine. I am just tired of people "claiming" to be lifestyle Dommes, then once you start talking to them it all boils down to what you do for a living. Most people work hard and support themselves but are NOT rich. I know some Dommes would like wealthy subs/slaves and trust me, I would LOVE a wealthy Domme too, but this is reality folks. What if I posted in my profile that I wanted a Domme that was a 6 figure earner? I bet I would not get many responses and the ones I got would be Dommes giving me a piece of their minds. Now I am not against spoiling my Domme with gifts, dinner, you know anything along those lines but to just totally support them, is something I doubt I'll ever be able to do. A sub/slave SHOULD spoil his Domme.

Am I wrong to feel the way I do? I may be but I am trying my hardest to be honest and forthcoming with whomever I come into contact with. I know there is a TON of BS on this site and in this lifestyle in general. I am financially secure but if I had to totally take care of someone else financially I would not be. Thank you for reading my post and I hope to hear some great thought on this.




And I'm going to put myself on perhaps even a bit more slippery slope here, but this is almost like the fat threads we see quite often.

I agree with the OP but then again I don't.. I don't get the picture that someone's far more of a relationship prospect just because they've got a job and they're financially stable and that someone who hasn't got a job is likely to be a financial burden on the other person.

So what if said employed financially stable person is someone you hardly ever see because they're working or they're just too tired to meet up after work? What about people who travel because of their work?

I see what the OP means about people being solvent and not placing a burden on the other person or expecting them to supplement their income, and I agree with this. But it's not just people on welfare who have problems financially, but also a lot of people who do have jobs.

What if, for example someone is working, has a great job, great salary, but also has crippling debts?

And what about someone who is say, on disability or long term sickness? Some people who are on welfare benefits are on them usually for a reason and quite often they have more disposable income than someone who is working.

Another thing is I don't see much difference on someone who's settled for living on welfare handouts and someone who has settled for a pen-pushing job in a bank or burger flipping in a local burger restaurant - it's still doing the minimum and expecting to have all your expenses met and paid for by someone else.

Therefore I don't see this as quite the straightforward issue as the OP and others are making out it is.

Oh and incidentally Kevin, you're in the European Union, aren't you? That money you're claiming you're entitled to for being so unfortunate as not to have a job - well you're only entitled to that money on condition that you are actively seeking employment. You do know this, don't you?




AnimusRex -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/18/2010 8:08:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SomethingCatchy
Look guy, if you don't want to do it, then don't, and just get over it. Some people like to be fucked in the butt, but I don't, does that make me wrong? No.


Yep,pretty much is my feeling here.

Yes, OP, there are selfish and lazy and greedy people all over, on both sides of the kneel, vanilla, kinky and otherwise.
(I swore I wrote this before)
The only thing more common than lazy people looking for a free ride are people complaining about it.




Lockit -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/18/2010 8:09:35 PM)

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WyldHrt -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/19/2010 12:09:23 AM)

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Many of us use pictures that are not of us to represent ourselves. Myself included.
Though I do have issues with the potential deceptive nature of the image and the lack of referencing.
In my case, there is no doubt that I am not the woman in my avatar as it is a famous piece of artwork in the BDSM world *and* I credit it in my profile. The other 3 pics on my profile are of me.

I honestly see a rather big difference between using a piece of artwork that obviously isn't you, esp when you have pics of yourself in your profile, and putting up a model pic taken from a website. I have to wonder how the guy in the photo would feel about his face being put up on a BDSM dating site without his consent.




Frankseas -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/19/2010 12:20:48 AM)

So true. and bad for me but the guy in my picture is me! Yes and sorry.[8D]

Myself, back to the subject why should a slave be secure as the Master will take care of them. A place to stay, food, clothing and a allowance plus lots of fun things to do...IE Training as well as daily chores to keep them busy and out of trouble.

The most important thing is to always treat a sub/slave as a person and not a object!




WyldHrt -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/19/2010 12:56:06 AM)

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The most important thing is to always treat a sub/slave as a person and not a object!

I think I kinda lubs you [:)]
Welcome to the forums, Frankseas! [:D]

PS. Some of us kinda like being in trouble, as long as it isn't with our Dom [;)]




LadyPact -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/19/2010 6:00:02 AM)

As I've said prior on this thread, it always amazes Me when someone complains about another's preferences.

Like anyone else, I'm not going to apologize for what I feel is the best fit for a dynamic with Me or for an addition to My poly family.  I honestly don't care if that eliminates a potential 7.5 million males who are unemployed from doing so.  It still leaves roughly 143.5 mil males that can handle living up to the standard that I hold on employment or self sufficiency financially of some kind.  As someone remarked earlier, it's not as though I have to lower My standards because the potential pool is in limited supply. 

I don't think anyone should settle for just any person who comes along.  I have no intention of adding to My household unless that person can live up to the standards of My preferences.




Mercnbeth -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/19/2010 7:40:17 AM)

~ Fast Contradiction ~


After 5 pages a note from the other side of the coin. It's not easy to find an individual who would agree to abdicate all personal responsibility, including financial, over to another.

I see a lot of "I wants..." in this thread; so much self focus. Granted, according to statistics, the majority of relationships fail and pragmatism must apply to the financial considerations of life; but how much of that same attitude contributes to other aspects of a relationship? Everyone is so worried about what's in it for them, that no attention is paid to the more important consideration - what's in it for 'us'. There are a lot of submissives here representing they would not quit their job or jeopardize their career for the sake of their relationship. They want security. They want income. They want to live in a certain style. They want...

Yup - that is exactly what I found when I was looking for a partner.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

My goal was to have a partner who would only serve one Master. To keep it simple and cast the widest net - the 'master' was me. Trying to convey the concept of serving a 'Master' relationship was something that would be disclosed as the relationship 'evolved'. I never expected it to happen because most people I met had that 'I want' priority. It's human nature.

Since beginning my search for a partner in LA I can give first hand representation that desiring someone who would only serve one 'Master' - ME, and surrender all career and outside responsibilities, is difficult. Trust me - the 'housekeeping, cooking, & blow-jobs' criteria was the easiest one to fill because really - that was serving their fantasy. For a weekend I could let it serve mine; but when discussions took a deeper path and departed from their fantasy to my reality the relationship was over. What would their future financial condition be if they gave up their career? I couldn't tell them. I told them it would be whatever mine was.

Never seeking or having the opportunity to consider a male submissive, I can't speak to gender specific differences. However being lazy and expecting someone else to take care of you and keep you in the manner you believe you deserve; isn't a gender based issue. It's easy to find a person who will live with you under just about any relationship dynamic, having a cost for services rendered mentality. Like most return on investment situations, you get, and give, whatever the parties involved deem appropriate and generating satisfactory results. When people say their relationship is 'work' - this evaluation of effort and 'return' on that invested effort, is what comes to mind.

"Financially Secure" is a mindset as much as it is determined by income or assets. It still comes back to being a matter of trust. You have to trust the commitment you're making with your partner to fulfill all the responsibilities of a relationship. Financial commitment is a big factor. One can live as cheaply as two if the two become single focused; one common goal of serving the common good. For me - that meant regardless of my income and assets; beth would not be conflicted in her relationship responsibilities by outside 'masters' looking for their own 'return on investment' which would result in them taking priority over her responsibilities to our relationship. I would have been setting ourselves up for frustration and failure if I allowed her to compromise and make any other choice.

I knew and respected this to be a difficult decision for her. she knew it would not be something I would compromise. I didn't think it would happen with beth, or anyone. I don't know how she was able to trust me and what I represented of myself when she made it. However whatever her process, I know that when she made her decision she trusted me a LOT more than I trusted her. I saw how strong, confident, intelligent, and capable she was. thought, like a few others who I met in my life, that the idea of abdicating all self determination and assigning that ability and strength to another was a cool fantasy; actually doing it long term - or 'forever' was counter indicated. beth was, and is, NOT lazy.

To date - its worked out. It looks easy from current perspective, but trust me - we lived MUCH differently 7 years ago, and her decision was made while considering to live in a 500 square foot apartment with furniture consisting of an IKEA futon chair, a chest of drawers having 20 penny nails holding it together, and a TV viewed on a stand pulled out of a dumpster. she gave up a large ranch in Santa Maria, a barnful of animals, her dogs, cats, and daily contact with her family. It didn't make any sense for her to give all that up to live with me under the terms I required for our relationship. Just to be perfectly clear, I didn't have her sell and/or transfer any of what she had over to me at the start. It was hers to dispose of as she wanted and saw fit. No house that she cashed in and handed me the proceeds. If she has money stashed away in some Swiss Bank - that's between her, the Swiss, and the US Federal wealth police. Sure - things got better, but she had no way of knowing, or better put, trusting, that they would.

I don't blame anyone for thinking about themselves first and wanting an iron clad guarantee that their future financial security is assured. My belief that submission requires a stronger, self assured person than dominance, is influenced by what's involved personally and the social consequences of abdicating the personal decision making process for all aspects, including financial, to another. Imagine the accusations of stupidity beth would get if it didn't work out and she came to this board telling her story asking what to do? I also understand and appreciate that the only person anyone should trust to fulfill that need is the person staring back at you in the mirror. It's the way I feel. Fortunately its one of those perfect compatibility issues we have between us - one of many.




lobodomslavery -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/19/2010 7:48:17 AM)

Yes it is. I would of worked longer if I was allowed but that s another story. Im not going down that track again. Instead I am sending CVs everyday in a bid to get notice. I have been doing this for months to no avail. But I wont give up. I will get my opportunity again. Im certain of that. Ive learned from my mistakes and am ready to try again. It s just a matter of time and luck
Kevin




lobodomslavery -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/19/2010 7:50:45 AM)

Thats absolutely fine I accept that. Just dont label those without work as potential financial drags etc just make Your decision and move on without comment , value judgement or anything else
Kevin




lobodomslavery -> RE: "Financially Secure" (1/19/2010 7:52:27 AM)

Supermarket theft is completely different. Your stealing from a business whats not yours. The internet is a communications medium not a business. Big difference. Thanks stella
Kevin




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